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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Jun 22, 2021 21:19:52 GMT
Actually, I quite like the song and never thought to compare it to Steppin' Out. I can hear it, but I'm not convinced. KPTOW has more bite. My fav song from Joe Jackson. Never noticed. Compared. Still dont hear it. i honestly thought i was alone in hearing JJ in KPTOW, but just googled it and - i guess it's a common-enough conclusion Joe Jackson vs Queen
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Post by yourfairyking on Jun 23, 2021 4:09:12 GMT
When the Works came out in 1984, I was hugely disappointed - there were only a couple of songs (IMO) anywhere near to the same ballpark as Queen's 70s output (IAHL and (possibly) Hammer - although, i'll cut Ga Ga some slack, because lyrically, it's quite a clever dig at the MTV generation). Each successive LP (from 1980's the game onward) traded off progressively more of their 73-78 grandiose quality in favour of quick-fit, hit n run, dial-a-hit cash-ins. It was 1989 before they rediscovered the art of fusing commerciality with some of their 1970s quality and bombast. well, while we're talking about piano: what's with the lazy-ass nature of KPTOW? one of the 70's greatest songwriters appears to have writer's block. did Freddie just hear Joe Jackson's Steppin' Out the year beforehand and think "i'll see what I can do with that"? shame is, had Freddie bothered to write something from scratch it may have been a very good song, but stealing someone else's melody like that, just accentuates the gulf in quality between the original and the sub-standard parody. they say that imitation is the most sincere form of flattery, but the very first time I heard KPTOW, I already knew i'd heard the superior version of that melody in 1982. shameful stuff, Mr Mercury. Hey man, KPTOW helps redeem Freddie regarding Don't Try Suicide. Lol It's a much better message of hope for someone having suicidal thoughts. Actually, I quite like the song and never thought to compare it to Steppin' Out. I can hear it, but I'm not convinced. KPTOW has more bite. Funny how Freddie said he didn't like to write songs with messages, yet one of his best works is just that. Regarding Steppin' Out, yes, it's similar but not to the extent people make it out to be. SO sounds like any other generic 80s pop tune, while KPTOW isn't as watered down.
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Post by Frank on Jun 23, 2021 5:00:00 GMT
Hey man, KPTOW helps redeem Freddie regarding Don't Try Suicide. Lol It's a much better message of hope for someone having suicidal thoughts. Actually, I quite like the song and never thought to compare it to Steppin' Out. I can hear it, but I'm not convinced. KPTOW has more bite. Funny how Freddie said he didn't like to write songs with messages, yet one of his best works is just that. Regarding Steppin' Out, yes, it's similar but not to the extent people make it out to be. SO sounds like any other generic 80s pop tune, while KPTOW isn't as watered down. Yeah, it has a driving rock beat with some cool guitar work, nice bass work, and actual percussion. Not one of my favorites, but it's a pretty damn solid Queen track. Actually, it's one of the few authentic sounding Queen tracks of the 80s that wasn't spoiled by electronic drums and synthesizers. If anything, it should be given more credit. And hell, I'll say it again. It has a positive message that is refreshing (night and day compared to Don't Try Suicide). It's a feel good song that's grown on me over the years.
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Post by antonio on Jun 23, 2021 6:53:57 GMT
I´m one of those who think that in the 70s their albums had quite a few fillers...I find very boring some songs on Sheer Heart Attack or A Night At The Opera.... In The Lap Of The Gods/Bring Back That Leroy Brown/Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon => That voice filters....What the hell? Now I´m Here - Never liked it...And played in 95% of the concerts..... The Prophet´s Song - The vocal solo part...Boring...I skip it always Good Company/Seaside Rendezvous - A kind of music that i don´t like
Fortunately these albums also cointained In The Lap Of The Gods (Revisited), Death On Two Legs, You´re My Best Friend, I´m In Love With My Car, Stone Cold Crazy....
Your post absolutely blows my mind. Every single one of those songs I cherish because they demonstrate Queen's ability to write in so many different styles and do so convincingly. They're also fun and pure escapism, especially a tune like In The Lap Of The Gods that practically takes you to another world. To each their own though!
Yes, they show the Queen's ability to try different styles but ..."These" styles are not my thing...
Bring Back That Leroy Brown/Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon (for me) are jokes (bad ones)...But I understand people´s other tastes.
Fortunately, the Queen´s catalogue have many songs to be worried for these ones...
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Post by yourfairyking on Jun 25, 2021 4:00:50 GMT
Funny how Freddie said he didn't like to write songs with messages, yet one of his best works is just that. Regarding Steppin' Out, yes, it's similar but not to the extent people make it out to be. SO sounds like any other generic 80s pop tune, while KPTOW isn't as watered down. Yeah, it has a driving rock beat with some cool guitar work, nice bass work, and actual percussion. Not one of my favorites, but it's a pretty damn solid Queen track. Actually, it's one of the few authentic sounding Queen tracks of the 80s that wasn't spoiled by electronic drums and synthesizers. If anything, it should be given more credit. And hell, I'll say it again. It has a positive message that is refreshing (night and day compared to Don't Try Suicide). It's a feel good song that's grown on me over the years. If I'm remembering correctly, The Works was pretty light when it came to synths. They were present, but they weren't the driving force behind the songs. Hot Space is my favorite Queen album, but I can see why the reliance on synths and drum machines turned so many off, so The Works was seemingly much more accepted.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Jun 25, 2021 6:18:21 GMT
Regarding Steppin' Out, yes, it's similar but not to the extent people make it out to be. SO sounds like any other generic 80s pop tune, while KPTOW isn't as watered down. that's a huge disservice you're doing to Joe Jackson there. I'd say none of his work (incl Steppin' Out) could ever be described as "generic 80s pop". If I'm remembering correctly, The Works was pretty light when it came to synths. They were present, but they weren't the driving force behind the songs. Hot Space is my favorite Queen album, but I can see why the reliance on synths and drum machines turned so many off, so The Works was seemingly much more accepted. i think it depends upon how you apply the word reliance. Yes, the Works was more accepted - but that's only because it sounded a little more like other typical 80s rock LPs - rather than the pop/funk hybrid of HS. The 80s "rock" sound of other big rock bands - Yes, Genesis, Rush etc - had moved toward a more poppy, synth-based sound. The music industry as a whole had sold the "radio-friendly pop/rock" sound to the bands and their sounds adjusted/removed themselves significantly from their recognised trademark sound. As a result, most long-standing fans felt abandoned, while new fans (pre-conditioned by radio and MTV) lapped it up - thinking that this was what rock actually is. I'd wager that the new rock fans of the 80s, were probably uninterested in songs like, Musical Box, The Knife, Roundabout, And You And I, 2112 etc. Overall, the Works LP is very synth heavy: Oberheim OBX-a, Linn LM2 drum machines, Vocoder, Roland Jupiter, Fairlight CMI II Sampler and Roland VP-330 Vocoder are used in abundance. The real difference between this LP and HS - synth-wise, is that HS was synths for synths' sake (new toys to play with), whereas, Works was about actually learning how to use the synths to augment their sound. Neither are LPs I like, but at least Works tries sound like Queen.
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Post by yourfairyking on Jun 26, 2021 4:10:39 GMT
Regarding Steppin' Out, yes, it's similar but not to the extent people make it out to be. SO sounds like any other generic 80s pop tune, while KPTOW isn't as watered down. that's a huge disservice you're doing to Joe Jackson there. I'd say none of his work (incl Steppin' Out) could ever be described as "generic 80s pop". If I'm remembering correctly, The Works was pretty light when it came to synths. They were present, but they weren't the driving force behind the songs. Hot Space is my favorite Queen album, but I can see why the reliance on synths and drum machines turned so many off, so The Works was seemingly much more accepted. Overall, the Works LP is very synth heavy: Oberheim OBX-a, Linn LM2 drum machines, Vocoder, Roland Jupiter, Fairlight CMI II Sampler and Roland VP-330 Vocoder are used in abundance. The real difference between this LP and HS - synth-wise, is that HS was synths for synths' sake (new toys to play with), whereas, Works was about actually learning how to use the synths to augment their sound. I guess I worded it weirdly, as I definitely agree. I think I've just become so numb to synthesizers that I never noticed how much they were used on The Works. I knew they were there (Radio GaGa, Machines and Break Free were the most apparent), but since I've listened to Hot Space so much I would've expected them to stick out more.
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Post by The Fairy King on Jun 28, 2021 7:42:42 GMT
I've seen a lot of hate for MOTP recently, which is just odd to me. I always thought it was one of the best on the album, and the piano was immaculate. I view it as a song that doesn't take itself too seriously, and you can tell they had a blast performing it. A good piano part does not a good song make. Ok Yoda.
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Post by stevedorius on Jun 28, 2021 17:57:55 GMT
Ride The Wild Wind ... It's just a really weird sounding track as well. Very dark and ominous.
Classic Roger, I love it !
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Post by stevedorius on Jun 28, 2021 18:02:52 GMT
Regarding Steppin' Out, yes, it's similar but not to the extent people make it out to be. SO sounds like any other generic 80s pop tune, while KPTOW isn't as watered down. that's a huge disservice you're doing to Joe Jackson there. I'd say none of his work (incl Steppin' Out) could ever be described as "generic 80s pop". Definitely - I've tried to play and sing a couple of his songs over the years, way more complicated than it seems! A lot of Squeeze tunes are that way too, you think it sounds simple, but then ... plus I'm a Baritone, that doesn't help at all
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Post by Frank on Jun 28, 2021 18:33:37 GMT
I've been actively listening to Keep Passing The Open Windows lately. I might even argue it's one of Queen's most underrated 80s tracks. There's a lot going for it that I think goes unnoticed. I mean, I can see why it might make someone's "worst" list...I suppose it's a bit cheesy, but that's Queen for you.
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Post by mike71 on Jun 28, 2021 19:23:15 GMT
Keep passing The Open Windows is one of my favorites.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Jun 28, 2021 20:43:19 GMT
I've been actively listening to Keep Passing The Open Windows lately. I might even argue it's one of Queen's most underrated 80s tracks. There's a lot going for it that I think goes unnoticed. I mean, I can see why it might make someone's "worst" list...I suppose it's a bit cheesy, but that's Queen for you. It's one of my favourite tracks on The Works, but not of Queen overall. I think it would have been good live.
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Post by georg on Jun 28, 2021 23:19:52 GMT
Open Windows is one of those rare album tracks from the latter day albums that stands up to the singles on the album. To me it sits with Was It All Worth It, Ride the Wild Wind, and Don’t Try So Hard as a stellar non-single album track.
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Post by mike71 on Jun 29, 2021 2:09:32 GMT
Open Windows is one of those rare album tracks from the latter day albums that stands up to the singles on the album. To me it sits with Was It All Worth It, Ride the Wild Wind, and Don’t Try So Hard as a stellar non-single album track. It's in my top 3 songs from The Works. Hard Life, Hammer To Fall, Open Windows.
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Post by primejiveusa on Jul 2, 2021 13:53:12 GMT
Awwwww...I love A Human Body ! I think it's one of Roger's best and am surprised it didn't make it on The Game but Coming Soon did. I love the backing vocals from Freddie, especially.
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Post by yourfairyking on Jul 7, 2021 1:11:21 GMT
Open Windows is one of those rare album tracks from the latter day albums that stands up to the singles on the album. To me it sits with Was It All Worth It, Ride the Wild Wind, and Don’t Try So Hard as a stellar non-single album track. It's in my top 3 songs from The Works. Hard Life, Hammer To Fall, Open Windows. I'd have to say that I'm in a similar boat. I love the whole album, as it's my second favorite, but Open Windows, Hammer to Fall, Hard Life, and Man on the Prowl are my top picks. Machines is great too.
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Post by nickip on Jul 7, 2021 5:23:24 GMT
The Works was the first Queen album I bought on release. Still one of my favourites today for that reason - I don’t play it that often but when I do I’m 15 again and the world is mine for the taking. It’s joyful. KPTOW is a particular favourite and I even love MOTP. IT was just joy on a black piece of plastic. Well until ITTWWC anyway….never did like that one!
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Post by timssor on Jul 7, 2021 11:10:28 GMT
"The Loser In The End" ruins what would otherwise be one of the most perfect albums of all time. It should have been a B-Side at best.
Other than that I have a pathological dislike of "Spread Your Wings".
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Post by herebemonsters on Jul 7, 2021 11:58:31 GMT
Sentiment aside, I could definitely live without hearing Love of My Life again. Another vote for Keep Passing the Open Windows, feels utterly empty as a song. Not a big fan of Another One Bites the Dust or Crazy Little Thing Called Love either, more through over-dose over the years than irrational dislike.
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Post by ragmaram on Jul 21, 2021 23:27:48 GMT
Bohemian Rhapsody
Not because I hate it, it's just so overplayed that if I have to hear it again I'll rip my ears off
Same goes for most of GH1 really
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Post by snakecharmer on Nov 10, 2023 22:29:18 GMT
"Don't Try Suicide"" should never have been on "The Game" when they should have put "Human Body" on in it's place would have made for a much better side two.
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Post by saintjiub on Nov 11, 2023 0:39:36 GMT
"Don't Try Suicide"" should never have been on "The Game" when they should have put "Human Body" on in it's place would have made for a much better side two. I know I am in a minority, but I absolutely love Don't Try Suicide as it helped me fight back against irrational suicidal thoughts when I was in college before I was later diagnosed as bipolar.
I absolutely despise All God's People and My Life Has Been Saved, as religion did not help me cope with my mental illness, and I see religion as a false imaginary hope.
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Post by agkelly on Nov 11, 2023 14:17:56 GMT
I, like many others here (most?), like/ love all Queen tracks.
However, my least favourite has always been 'Sweet Lady'.
I still like it, and appreciate it more as time's gone on, but it still ranks bottom of the Queen pile for me.
Still better than most crap on the radio these days though.
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Post by lawyeris on Nov 11, 2023 20:53:25 GMT
The worst Queen song for me - Body language. Other songs, close to it - Rain must fall, All God's people, Dont try suicide.
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Post by dragonkiller on Nov 12, 2023 13:00:04 GMT
Aw come on..Body Language is a classic. 🤣
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Post by ActionThisDay on Nov 14, 2023 20:21:04 GMT
I think Sweet Lady is great, but that one lyric seems to make people dislike it. I understand what Brian was trying to say, a woman calls him 'sweet' as if she's describing food. 'Cheese' was a bad choice though.
I've never liked the studio Body Language but I really enjoy the live versions, especially after they dropped the first verse. Brian's simple chordwork fills in the 'emptiness' of the record version but the real genius is Roger's contribution, playing the verses in shuffle time on the ride cymbal instead of the stiff hi-hat programmed by Freddie. The synth bassline works far better with this, it swings!
Songs I consider Queen's worst:
Who Needs You Sleeping on the Sidewalk Mustapha Fun It More of that Jazz Coming Soon Staying Power Back Chat Life Is Real One Year of Love Rain Must Fall Delilah The Hitman
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Post by munichqueenfan on Nov 15, 2023 7:37:04 GMT
I think Sweet Lady is great, but that one lyric seems to make people dislike it. I understand what Brian was trying to say, a woman calls him 'sweet' as if she's describing food. 'Cheese' was a bad choice though. I've never liked the studio Body Language but I really enjoy the live versions, especially after they dropped the first verse. Brian's simple chordwork fills in the 'emptiness' of the record version but the real genius is Roger's contribution, playing the verses in shuffle time on the ride cymbal instead of the stiff hi-hat programmed by Freddie. The synth bassline works far better with this, it swings! Songs I consider Queen's worst: Who Needs You Sleeping on the Sidewalk Mustapha Fun It More of that Jazz Coming Soon Staying Power Back Chat Life Is Real One Year of Love Rain Must Fall Delilah The Hitman So many songs from John on the list . The only John song I really dislike is Misfire. Back Chat is one of my favourites. It really stands out on Hot Space. Liked it from the first time I heard it on a cassette "Queen live in USA". The song has power, drive and Freddie is on fire! And I really likeRain Must Fall, too. Love the realxed caribbean feeling of the song! Anyhow, I agree with Fun It, More of that Jazz, Staying Power, Deliah and The Hitman.
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Post by ActionThisDay on Nov 18, 2023 3:23:05 GMT
Nothing against John, I love some of his songs: YMBF, You & I, SYW, In Only Seven Days, IWTBF, Misfire isn't awful either. I'm just not a fan of his 'Tamla/Motown' thing as Freddie once described it including the 'co-writes' FWBF, PISCTP.
Jesus how did I forget Cool Cat, possibly my least favourite Queen song.
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Post by The great pretender on Jan 24, 2024 20:42:35 GMT
Now I’m here gets skipped everytime
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