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Post by rylan2020 on Aug 9, 2021 20:43:48 GMT
It can be done and work. But they have to be respectful and not change shit. I think it would be a great way to bring fans in to stuff like the great pretender and Barcelona. But you can’t do a sequel without AIDS. I think if done right and they tackle it without changing anything and using info that others with knowledge provided like Hutton and Phobe’s books it could be a very interesting drama showing what AIDS did to Freddie. it would also be a good way to show to the world what people like Jim, Peter, Joe and Straker were like. If you want to end it off on a high note then show the band coming back together to finish Made In Heaven.
They will still probably fuck it up.
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Post by Frank on Aug 9, 2021 21:46:47 GMT
It can be done and work. But they have to be respectful and not change shit. I think it would be a great way to bring fans in to stuff like the great pretender and Barcelona. But you can’t do a sequel without AIDS. I think if done right and they tackle it without changing anything and using info that others with knowledge provided like Hutton and Phobe’s books it could be a very interesting drama showing what AIDS did to Freddie. it would also be a good way to show to the world what people like Jim, Peter, Joe and Straker were like. If you want to end it off on a high note then show the band coming back together to finish Made In Heaven. They will still probably fuck it up.Yes, I wouldn't trust anyone after seeing what they did with Bohemian Rhapsody. Regarding friends like Jim, Peter, Joe, and Straker, it'd be weird to see those friendships suddenly become relevant. The only one in the bunch that was featured in BR was Jim. I think they excluded his friends to accentuate Freddie's loneliness. While I think Freddie did feel alone, he did have a circle of friends. Unfortunately, some of those friends he left behind because I think he wasn't sure who to trust. Especially after Prenter's dick move. It's a shame they weren't featured at all in the first film. Could have made for an interesting sub plot.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Aug 9, 2021 22:02:57 GMT
While I think Freddie did feel alone, he did have a circle of friends. Unfortunately, some of those friends he left behind because I think he wasn't sure who to trust. Especially after Prenter's dick move. It's a shame they weren't featured at all in the first film. Could have made for an interesting sub plot. well they weren't really true friends, were they? if he didn't trust them, then why are they relevant to a Freddie biopic? slotting these people into the movie, merely glorifies them and unnecessarily "bigs-up" their part. i'd also say that they were largely irrelevant to Freddie, and he (possibly) figured them to be the hangers-on they proved themselves to be - hence the distancing.
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Post by Frank on Aug 9, 2021 22:15:15 GMT
While I think Freddie did feel alone, he did have a circle of friends. Unfortunately, some of those friends he left behind because I think he wasn't sure who to trust. Especially after Prenter's dick move. It's a shame they weren't featured at all in the first film. Could have made for an interesting sub plot. well they weren't really true friends, were they? if he didn't trust them, then why are they relevant to a Freddie biopic? slotting these people into the movie, merely glorifies them and unnecessarily "bigs-up" their part. i'd also say that they were largely irrelevant to Freddie, and he (possibly) figured them to be the hangers-on they proved themselves to be - hence the distancing. I don't disagree. But I still stand by it being an interesting sub plot to explore.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Aug 10, 2021 21:26:34 GMT
I think that's the same comments that were quoted in other interviews. Doesn't mean it's any more likely to happen. I guess he just doesn't want to categorically pour cold water on it. Roger's comments from 2020 seem pretty much spot on.
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Post by Jakelic on Aug 16, 2021 10:39:19 GMT
I dont think they plan to tell the "illness" story if they are really contemplating this. I reckon, Brian and Roger's life after '91, meaning, the Queen+ storyline. Adam's story, maybe even present the story in the line of their efforts to find a new "face" (Robbie, George, Paul etc) with flashbacks to Freddie... alhough I doubt Rami will repeat the role he already got the Oscar for. I don't think money is the reason, maybe Brian just wants to tell the rest of his own story.
For my personal part, I hope they don't make the movie. Then it might become a trilogy, Lord save us.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Aug 16, 2021 10:49:56 GMT
I dont think they plan to tell the "illness" story if they are really contemplating this. I reckon, Brian and Roger's life after '91, meaning, the Queen+ storyline. to do any of that will mean rewriting the narrative of BR being a Freddie Mercury Biopic. Moving the goalposts beyond Freddie to the post-'91-band-actovity for the purpose of a non-sequel sequel would appear disingenuous. If it's a sequel to a Freddie Biopic then it has to continue to focus around Freddie's life (and maybe legacy), to focus on the Q+ aspects is not a Biopic Sequel - it's a standalone movie, masquerading as a sequel. There's more than enough stuff between Live Aid and Innuendo to make a follow-up, without having to resort to the grizzly details of his illness/death.
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Post by Jakelic on Aug 16, 2021 11:14:05 GMT
to do any of that will mean rewriting the narrative of BR being a Freddie Mercury Biopic. Moving the goalposts beyond Freddie to the post-'91-band-actovity for the purpose of a non-sequel sequel would appear disingenuous. If it's a sequel to a Freddie Biopic then it has to continue to focus around Freddie's life (and maybe legacy), to focus on the Q+ aspects is not a Biopic Sequel - it's a standalone movie, masquerading as a sequel. Sure, but it's still a Queen movie. The first one's a Freddie biopic, the sequel could be a Brian/Roger biopic with flashbacks to their personal lives and Q+. Think about Brian's personal live drama, divorce, Back to the light stuff (hyped with the recent re release) and Roger's Cross and his personal life etc etc. Even the Deacon angle. It's a movie, you can do anything. We already saw in BoRhap that they can be pretty creative with the script and dramatise fictional scenes, so they can go whichever way they want if they choose to make another one. You said it perfectly, they can easily masquearade a standalone movie as a sequel. Wouldn't be surprised if they do. I just hope they don't
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Post by oreno on Aug 16, 2021 11:39:20 GMT
With this sort of thing we really need to cut away the gordian knot. There is no way anyone is making a multi million dollar movie about auditioning Adam Lambert or The Cross or Brian May's marital problems.
If you said "Queen movie sequel without Freddie" to any producer you won't see them for dust.
I think an unavoidable part of that is dealing with Freddie's illness and death. Personally I don't see that happening, but who knows?
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Post by Lord Fickle on Aug 16, 2021 11:58:29 GMT
There's more than enough stuff between Live Aid and Innuendo to make a follow-up, without having to resort to the grizzly details of his illness/death. I agree, but then people would complain that they were glossing over the effects of HIV / AIDS, so they can't really win on that score.
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Post by peacelovingguy on Aug 16, 2021 12:25:13 GMT
I dont think they plan to tell the "illness" story if they are really contemplating this. I reckon, Brian and Roger's life after '91, meaning, the Queen+ storyline. Adam's story, maybe even present the story in the line of their efforts to find a new "face" (Robbie, George, Paul etc) with flashbacks to Freddie... alhough I doubt Rami will repeat the role he already got the Oscar for. I don't think money is the reason, maybe Brian just wants to tell the rest of his own story. For my personal part, I hope they don't make the movie. Then it might become a trilogy, Lord save us. I can’t wait for part three, in which against the odds, Brian and Roger vanquish the evil Sasha Baron Cohen and make the hit movie with Rami Malek. It’s going to brilliantly restage the restagings from the movie, culminating in the restaging of the restaging of Live Aid. Rami Malek has a cameo playing Mike Myers. Mike Myers also has a cameo, playing a film studio executive who exclaims “Mark my words, no one is going to watch a film about Queen!”
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Aug 16, 2021 12:48:17 GMT
to do any of that will mean rewriting the narrative of BR being a Freddie Mercury Biopic. Moving the goalposts beyond Freddie to the post-'91-band-actovity for the purpose of a non-sequel sequel would appear disingenuous. If it's a sequel to a Freddie Biopic then it has to continue to focus around Freddie's life (and maybe legacy), to focus on the Q+ aspects is not a Biopic Sequel - it's a standalone movie, masquerading as a sequel. Sure, but it's still a Queen movie. The first one's a Freddie biopic, the sequel could be a Brian/Roger biopic with flashbacks to their personal lives and Q+. Think about Brian's personal live drama, divorce, Back to the light stuff (hyped with the recent re release) and Roger's Cross and his personal life etc etc. Even the Deacon angle. It's a movie, you can do anything. We already saw in BoRhap that they can be pretty creative with the script and dramatise fictional scenes, so they can go whichever way they want if they choose to make another one. You said it perfectly, they can easily masquearade a standalone movie as a sequel. Wouldn't be surprised if they do. I just hope they don't and there's the rub. whether it's a Queen movie, or about Brian's personal life, or Roger's projects - it's no longer a Freddie Biopic, and consequently NOT a sequel. Frankly, neither the cinema-going public at large nor the movie industry are remotely interested in a Queen Movie. Successful Movie Biopics that succeed are (usually) about individuals rather than bands: Amadeus, La Bamba, Ray, The Soloist, Coal Miner's Daughter, What's love Got To Do With It, Notorious, Walk The Line, Selena, Shine, Rocketman and Bohemian Rhapsody, Admittedly, occasionally there's a trend-bucker like Jersey Boys or The Doors, but by-and-large the (music section) of this movie genre is devoted to the individual, because we (as viewers) form an emotional attachment to a central character.
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Post by georg on Aug 16, 2021 15:26:07 GMT
I dont think they plan to tell the "illness" story if they are really contemplating this. I reckon, Brian and Roger's life after '91, meaning, the Queen+ storyline. Adam's story, maybe even present the story in the line of their efforts to find a new "face" (Robbie, George, Paul etc) with flashbacks to Freddie... alhough I doubt Rami will repeat the role he already got the Oscar for. I don't think money is the reason, maybe Brian just wants to tell the rest of his own story. For my personal part, I hope they don't make the movie. Then it might become a trilogy, Lord save us. I can’t wait for part three, in which against the odds, Brian and Roger vanquish the evil Sasha Baron Cohen and make the hit movie with Rami Malek. It’s going to brilliantly restage the restagings from the movie, culminating in the restaging of the restaging of Live Aid. Rami Malek has a cameo playing Mike Myers. Mike Myers also has a cameo, playing a film studio executive who exclaims “Mark my words, no one is going to watch a film about Queen!” I would 100% watch this movie.
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Post by rylan2020 on Aug 16, 2021 23:16:04 GMT
I’m going to say this I would like to see another movie there isn’t anyway they can mess it up it’s pretty straight forward AKOM & Tour -> Time & The Great Pretender -> Barcelona -> Press Hounding Queen -> The Miracle -> Innuendo -> Final Studio Sessions -> Freddie’s Death & Funeral -> Finishing Made In Heaven. after live aid in my opinion it’s pretty strait forward and there is no real way to deviate as it’s so well documented (although this is QPL). And between this you could cover other stuff. Also the film brings attention to Barcelona
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Post by Lord Fickle on Aug 16, 2021 23:42:08 GMT
I’m going to say this I would like to see another movie there isn’t anyway they can mess it up it’s pretty straight forward AKOM & Tour -> Time & The Great Pretender -> Barcelona -> Press Hounding Queen -> The Miracle -> Innuendo -> Final Studio Sessions -> Freddie’s Death & Funeral -> Finishing Made In Heaven. after live aid in my opinion it’s pretty strait forward and there is no real way to deviate as it’s so well documented (although this is QPL). And between this you could cover other stuff. Also the film brings attention to Barcelona That's all very well, but I still can't see Brian and Roger actually wanting to make that movie. They would want to be involved, like they were with the last one, but I think it would be too painful for them to relive those times. If they didn't want to mark the 30th anniversary of Freddie's death (didn't Brian say something along the lines that it wasn't anything to celebrate?), then I seriously doubt they would want to make a movie about it.
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Post by rylan2020 on Aug 17, 2021 6:19:02 GMT
I’m going to say this I would like to see another movie there isn’t anyway they can mess it up it’s pretty straight forward AKOM & Tour -> Time & The Great Pretender -> Barcelona -> Press Hounding Queen -> The Miracle -> Innuendo -> Final Studio Sessions -> Freddie’s Death & Funeral -> Finishing Made In Heaven. after live aid in my opinion it’s pretty strait forward and there is no real way to deviate as it’s so well documented (although this is QPL). And between this you could cover other stuff. Also the film brings attention to Barcelona That's all very well, but I still can't see Brian and Roger actually wanting to make that movie. They would want to be involved, like they were with the last one, but I think it would be too painful for them to relive those times. If they didn't want to mark the 30th anniversary of Freddie's death (didn't Brian say something along the lines that it wasn't anything to celebrate?), then I seriously doubt they would want to make a movie about it. True but why does it have to be celebrated if you do it right it could be like the film Philadelphia where you know he’s gonna die but you want to see him win before he dies. Like Philadelphia the audience would be invested in Freddie wanting to see him do what he enjoys before he passes. Bohemian Rhapsody was about Happiness and Success this could be about Loss and Acceptance. If you still want to end the film on a good note we’ll a bittersweet note then have the band come together to finish made in heaven.
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Post by Frank on Aug 17, 2021 10:27:58 GMT
That's all very well, but I still can't see Brian and Roger actually wanting to make that movie. They would want to be involved, like they were with the last one, but I think it would be too painful for them to relive those times. If they didn't want to mark the 30th anniversary of Freddie's death (didn't Brian say something along the lines that it wasn't anything to celebrate?), then I seriously doubt they would want to make a movie about it. True but why does it have to be celebrated if you do it right it could be like the film Philadelphia where you know he’s gonna die but you want to see him win before he dies. Like Philadelphia the audience would be invested in Freddie wanting to see him do what he enjoys before he passes. Bohemian Rhapsody was about Happiness and Success this could be about Loss and Acceptance. If you still want to end the film on a good note we’ll a bittersweet note then have the band come together to finish made in heaven. I really don't think ending with Made In Heaven would be an impactful and strong ending. You need to find something that demonstrates Freddie's strong will and determination. Instead, as sad as it is, we can watch his illness take hold and watch him hounded by the press. We then watch him drift away, and then the film flashes back to the moment when Freddie is popping vodkas and belting out The Show Must Go On in Montreux. Then, instead of showing us, we read text summarizing the events in the following years to continue Freddie's legacy (Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert, Made In Heaven, etc.). I think ending with Freddie in action is stronger than actually watching the rest of the group carry on without him. And once TSMGO is playing, we can see clips of the real Freddie Mercury throughout his career. Tears will be streaming, but we're still seeing the legend kick ass.
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Post by The Fairy King on Aug 17, 2021 12:12:44 GMT
I’m sure he envisions something like this «Lambert Rhapsody - The gift from God» Freddie dies Tribute concert Nothing happens until 2009 Lambert arrives You mean: Queen + Adam Lambert - The Show Must Go On?
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Post by ChimChamIt'sAScam on Aug 17, 2021 14:02:35 GMT
True but why does it have to be celebrated if you do it right it could be like the film Philadelphia where you know he’s gonna die but you want to see him win before he dies. Like Philadelphia the audience would be invested in Freddie wanting to see him do what he enjoys before he passes. Bohemian Rhapsody was about Happiness and Success this could be about Loss and Acceptance. If you still want to end the film on a good note we’ll a bittersweet note then have the band come together to finish made in heaven. I really don't think ending with Made In Heaven would be an impactful and strong ending. You need to find something that demonstrates Freddie's strong will and determination. Instead, as sad as it is, we can watch his illness take hold and watch him hounded by the press. We then watch him drift away, and then the film flashes back to the moment when Freddie is popping vodkas and belting out The Show Must Go On in Montreux. Then, instead of showing us, we read text summarizing the events in the following years to continue Freddie's legacy (Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert, Made In Heaven, etc.). I think ending with Freddie in action is stronger than actually watching the rest of the group carry on without him. And once TSMGO is playing, we can see clips of the real Freddie Mercury throughout his career. Tears will be streaming, but we're still seeing the legend kick ass. Although I hate the idea of a sequel, I can just imagine how powerful the ending could be in theory. Mercury slipping away with The Show Must Go On roaring in the background, as the camera pans back through the house, showing flashes of Mercury throughout the band's career. In theory, I think they could do the ending tastefully. I just have the feeling that they wouldn't go for something like that if they want to keep their PG-13 rating.
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Post by Emmanuel on Aug 19, 2021 22:46:50 GMT
"Brian May Says there is not a Bohemian Rhapsody Sequel" "JAKARTA - The biopic Bohemian Rhapsody which was released in 2018 received a positive response. Seeing the great interest of the audience, the production team is reportedly considering a sequel. Queen guitarist Brian May talked about the sequel in his latest Instagram Live session. “We are looking at the ideas. It will be difficult to follow that one because none of us can predict how big it will be,” Brian May said on Instagram. Unfortunately, launching NME today, Monday, August 16, May said the possibility of a sequel to Bohemian Rhapsody would not happen. "We've talked about it and we don't think we see going to do it," he said this week at an event. Neither Queen nor the production team have done any in-depth research for this sequel. The film Bohemian Rhapsody tells the story of the beginning of the formation of the band Queen from Freddie Mercury's perspective until the band achieved success. When it was first released, the film earned $900 million at the worldwide box office. In addition, Bohemian Rhapsody became the most sold film on home video in the UK in 2019. Last month, it was revealed that all of Queen's members had earned £100,000 from the film." Info Link
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Post by Lord Fickle on Aug 19, 2021 23:28:50 GMT
If that's the final decision, that's fine with me (but I suspect it isn't). Just don't do another bloody musical!
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Post by Frank on Aug 20, 2021 1:48:29 GMT
If that's the final decision, that's fine with me (but I suspect it isn't). Just don't do another bloody musical! I saw We Will Rock You for the first time 2 years ago and I left the venue a bit underwhelmed. But then again, I'm not a HUGE musical person unless the story captivates me. And the story was whackadoodle. haha
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Aug 20, 2021 6:09:01 GMT
Last month, it was revealed that all of Queen's members had earned £100,000 from the film." Info Link this article should be taken with a sackful of salt. yes it may be true, but it may also be a victim of "translation errors". either way, it's proof that sometimes it's a little dangerous to accept what we see online. it isn't. if there's one glaring error - there will be more. the actual figure was £100,000 per day - in the year upto Sept 2020 (£19,179,528 pre-tax). and split four ways. if they'd only earned £100,000 total - as the linked article implies, this would make the whole project a waste of time.
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Post by bernied on Aug 20, 2021 7:11:51 GMT
To be honest, I really can think of a sequel. And it doesn‘t necessarily have to cover only the period past Live Aid. In my view there‘s enough interesting to tell. They could work with Flashbacks. For example Freddie‘s childhood, other important concerts (e.g. Knebworth), of course to some extent how he dealt with anf fought the disease, recording music and filming promotional videos.
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Post by coolcat27 on Aug 25, 2021 16:52:13 GMT
To me, Freddie's courage in the face of terminal illness is a huge part of his story. All good stories involve drama and his story is hard to top. Yes, it' sad. But it's also massively inspiring that the world's greatest singer got sick and just kept doing what he loved. The world's biggest band keeping that huge secret. I hated the factual changes made in Bohemian Rhapsody (Freddie shares his illness with the band years before being diagnosed) but I do think there could be a compelling story here. And it would shine a light on all the great latter-day songs that go overlooked, such as I Want It All, The Show Must Go On, These Are The Days of Our Lives, Scandal, etc. And Brian and Roger were instrumental in writing these, so they might be motivated to tell this tale.
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Post by mike71 on Aug 26, 2021 2:45:30 GMT
I don't know how they could leave out the last 5 years of Freddie's life. The sequel would be a better movie, but less popular. Freddie recording Innuendo in his condition would be more Inspiring than sad. It would also give albums like Barcelona, Innuendo and MIH the credit they deserve. If they do it right, I would be all for It.
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Post by boboroni on Aug 28, 2021 22:21:16 GMT
Well it’s a possibility let’s just hope it is done properly.
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Post by rylan2020 on Aug 29, 2021 4:59:15 GMT
Well it’s a possibility let’s just hope it is done properly. With something so delicate as the death of Freddie. Roger & Brian hopefully will be extremely responsible. I mean this is the death of their best friend.
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Post by mkstewartesq on Aug 29, 2021 15:46:21 GMT
Well it’s a possibility let’s just hope it is done properly. With something so delicate as the death of Freddie. Roger & Brian hopefully will be extremely responsible. I mean this is the death of their best friend. I think that expecting them to be responsible – much less “extremely responsible” based on Freddie being their “best friend“ - is a bit unrealistic. First of all, I’ve seen no evidence to ever indicate that Freddie and Brian were “best friends”. Roger and Freddie, at least in the early days, sure, but all evidence indicates that Freddie and Brian were mainly competitive coworkers. Even if one could raise a hope of responsibility based on them being best friends with Freddie, history makes that hope a low one. I actually really enjoyed the first film for what it was and it was good to see the general public getting a new awareness of the band. But that film was driven by Roger and Brian, and their sense of responsibility to their “best friend“ did not prevent them from completely fabricating a third act which basically amounted to “And then Freddie became a total asshole and had to beg the band to let him rejoin them.”
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