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Post by mattster on Oct 13, 2021 13:00:11 GMT
I also had the same issue of my 7" order being cancelled, I bought it at 11:01, I couldn’t be any quicker !
What’s the point of producing something is such small quantities that it makes it impossible for fans to buy the record.
Instead, as above the records end up on eBay, going for stupid high prices and the band then don’t get to see any of that money.
All this has done is to make QPL look very bad, which to me reflects badly on Brian & Roger.
On my Queen shop account, the cancelled order has written on it " More stock available in 3-14 days" Does anybody know if they are going to produce/press any more of each single ?
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Post by moonhead on Oct 13, 2021 18:54:32 GMT
Next step... Freddie release... I dream for a bundle solution at the end of the anniversary... But it's just a dream...
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Post by macduff77 on Oct 13, 2021 21:29:58 GMT
Well, since I’m still waiting for the refund for the “purchase” that was cancelled, I will definitely not be participating further.
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Post by mattster on Oct 15, 2021 12:19:02 GMT
Today I went to buy the Freddie "Somebody to Love" coloured single at the Online shop, at dead on 11:00 I added it to my cart, by the time I clicked the check out button, they were all out of stock... So in about 10 to 15 seconds it was all sold out. This is just SO stupid and poor of QPL and they don't bother answering any emails or questions.
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Post by lurexbulsara on Oct 15, 2021 15:18:34 GMT
This time, I had more luck with an order placed at 11:00:08 personally. I haven't received a cancellation mail, so I guess I'm good but I do agree that this sold out ridiculously fast...
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Post by dave76 on Oct 15, 2021 16:20:01 GMT
Aah well, at least we can buy the Queen teddy bear that hasn't sold out yet.
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Post by Dimitris on Oct 15, 2021 17:50:08 GMT
I am happy since some collectors managed to buy it. As a long time Queen fan and collector, after the last week fiasco with Qol shop, I really lost any interest to buy any new limited edition. The previous years the things were better and the prices over the internet were logical and sometimes lower.
I remember absolute greatest box 100 copies which is really very hard and very rare to find, it was announced and was sold out in about 2-3 days.
Then it's price went up steadily not like today.
I give an example of what is going on sales. I have original picture disc of jazz still sealed from 1979. After 2018 jazz picture disc came out, some sellers ask the same money for 2018 picture disc with the first ever Queen picture disc.
I saw on ebay that Made in heaven cream LP 1995 is sold for 200-400 euros. While the original fist pressing 1995 (black vinyl) is the real limited and rare. What I wanto say is that, those who re-sell the limited editions don't have idea. Don't know about pressings, matrix numbers etc. They just throw baits if the fans bite them... So be careful when buying from eBay etc.
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Post by pg on Oct 15, 2021 20:30:52 GMT
Aah well, at least we can buy the Queen teddy bear that hasn't sold out yet. Is it 33rpm or 45rpm?
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Post by Lord Fickle on Oct 15, 2021 20:55:33 GMT
Aah well, at least we can buy the Queen teddy bear that hasn't sold out yet. Is it 33rpm or 45rpm? Or 1400rpm in a spin dryer?
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Post by Rainbow61 on Oct 17, 2021 23:48:26 GMT
Add my name to the list of those who tried to purchase the Freddie colored single. It took me less then 10 seconds to click on the item, put it in my cart, and check out. It was sold out before I could finish the last step. I would be far more frustrated to have made the purchase as some of your did, only to receive a cancellation notice later. I have NEVER heard of such a thing happening.
Within a couple of minutes I checked eBay and was disgusted to see how many people were reselling the record for obscene prices...most between $100-$200 (US dollars). There must have been about 15 listings at one point and now there are only a couple. That means some insane people actually paid those inflated prices. Unbelievable!
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Post by ncc1701q on Oct 18, 2021 6:12:49 GMT
On Facebook there is a member of the Fan Club-Facebookgroup that claims that all four singles will be available as a set on November 24th. Haven't been able to confirm this though, has ayone heard/read anything about this?
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Post by dcw70h on Oct 18, 2021 21:34:25 GMT
I’m not sure they can release a bundle after advertising 1000 copies worldwide. That would essentially mean and that any limited edition in future would be questioned to the point that it would hold no interest to their market. Hot space picture disc next year would be limited to 1982 copies on previous form - who will buy that if a month later the run goes to 5 or 10k. No-one.
They have damaged the brand to an extent, with this release, but only with long term fans and collectors. But moving from a limited to wider release will only compound that. Best we can hope for in my view is that there is a lesson learned and that the massively limited runs of 1000 are consigned to history, and a more fitting number is set as the baseline considering worldwide demand. Or even better, that more imagination and care is taken to release a product that both new and old fans would want in quantity. Not necessarily box sets at £140 plus, but something good for 1/2 that price. What’s best 5000 sales at 140 or 50000 at 70 pounds each. That’s more effort and less quality control but surely will mean a good cost benefit arrangement for all involved.
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Post by pg on Oct 18, 2021 21:52:17 GMT
Damaged the brand? Get real. This is the brand that allowed their songs to be rewritten for floor cleaner adverts. Also, limited edition singles only available in single locations go back to a red vinyl SMGO from an Italian fan convention and the purple Bo Rhap from the UK one. Yes, their online systems are utterly crap, but we should stop wetting ourselves over a reissue we didn't get a copy of - there's always something that somebody else got that you didn't. I spotted a fella with the Red Special seiko watch at a Roger show, which means he's a) got a sixpence that I'll never have and b) got more money than taste.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Oct 18, 2021 21:53:17 GMT
I’m not sure they can release a bundle after advertising 1000 copies worldwide. That would essentially mean and that any limited edition in future would be questioned to the point that it would hold no interest to their market. Hot space picture disc next year would be limited to 1982 copies on previous form - who will buy that if a month later the run goes to 5 or 10k. No-one. where is this "info" coming from? has there been any confirmation of a HS @ 40 re-issue? I'm only asking, because this would be "against the grain" for the two active members of Queen - who both, have less than zero in the "positive comments dept" with regard to HS. I think that HS is a moment in Queen history that both Roger & Brian would (ideally) like to ignore. Best we can hope for in my view is that there is a lesson learned and that the massively limited runs of 1000 are consigned to history, and a more fitting number is set as the baseline considering worldwide demand. Or even better, that more imagination and care is taken to release a product that both new and old fans would want in quantity. Not necessarily box sets at £140 plus, but something good for 1/2 that price. What’s best 5000 sales at 140 or 50000 at 70 pounds each. not a chance, sorry. limited edition = limited edition. the figures you're suggesting - 50,000 are top-of-charts sales for the current decade. that's far from limited and out of the question. even 10,000 sales will get a band a top-10 single these days. 1,000 (or less) is an accurate definition of limited edition. instead of releasing more copies, they'll do well to focus on ensuring that non-existent items don't get sold, only to be cancelled later. shouldn't be hard to fix - if they can be bothered.
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Post by Dimitris on Oct 19, 2021 14:16:12 GMT
Damaged the brand? Get real. This is the brand that allowed their songs to be rewritten for floor cleaner adverts. Also, limited edition singles only available in single locations go back to a red vinyl SMGO from an Italian fan convention and the purple Bo Rhap from the UK one. Yes, their online systems are utterly crap, but we should stop wetting ourselves over a reissue we didn't get a copy of - there's always something that somebody else got that you didn't. I spotted a fella with the Red Special seiko watch at a Roger show, which means he's a) got a sixpence that I'll never have and b) got more money than taste. Yes, always someone has got or not something. But it is ridiculous, how their online store works. The band's who respect their fans release products exclusive for their fan club. QIFC was good in 80s - 90s. (Not a member for years) It is ridiculous and also in many cases, some so called collectors are re-selling or on eBay some advert pre-order, with the prices up in the sky. First they don't have a clue about pressings, matrix etc, general collecting, they just find fans who want to buy everything.... and bite them. That's the problem! Queen marketing gives them a helping hand. Before the movie there were few cases, now is different story. Personally despite the fiasco of online store, I managed to find and swap the singles. I really wonder, how high the price of the third edition of studio collection will go on internet. I suspect some will start selling each album separately.
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Post by dave76 on Oct 29, 2021 13:23:28 GMT
Police closed the shop today after a lot of people were crushing each other in queue and even threatening the personel inside the store. This is beyond sad. Oh, the Brian single is gone as well. Glad that this shit is over. I guess we'll get a Greatest Hits christmas edition to top off this disaster 50th anniversary.
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Post by badboybez on Oct 29, 2021 13:33:08 GMT
Police closed the shop today after a lot of people were crushing each other in queue and even threatening the personel inside the store. This is beyond sad. Oh, the Brian single is gone as well. Glad that this shit is over. I guess we'll get a Greatest Hits christmas edition to top off this disaster 50th anniversary. Terrible.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Oct 29, 2021 13:38:58 GMT
Police closed the shop today after a lot of people were crushing each other in queue and even threatening the personel inside the store. This is beyond sad. Oh, the Brian single is gone as well. Glad that this shit is over. I guess we'll get a Greatest Hits christmas edition to top off this disaster 50th anniversary. Oh wow, that's not good. 🙁
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Post by macduff77 on Oct 29, 2021 14:42:30 GMT
I feel bad for the actual Queen fans who went along to grab a copy for themselves.
And of course the workers who were subjected to any type of abuse.
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Post by Nick on Oct 29, 2021 17:20:33 GMT
So, I was at Carnaby today. What I saw was pretty shocking and will stay with me for a while.
I’m lucky enough to live within 30 minutes of the store, so when I failed to get a Freddie 7” in week two online, I simply got on the tube, made it to the store and joined the queue there to buy one. Now, in the interests of transparency, I took them up on the two vinyls per customer policy as both my father and I are Queen collectors. However, it was clear on that day that eBayers were going in, getting their two copies, rejoining the queue and going round again.
Given that the Roger vinyl sold out in store on the Saturday morning and Freddie went by the Friday afternoon, combined with the number of auction website listings, the powers that be should have reacted to this for the John release last week. They didn’t.
I got in the queue at 10am last week and was in the first 100 or so. I’ve heard some people say they saw eBayers at the front of the queue push their way back in to the line after they got their first purchase, but I can’t confirm that. However, there were over 250 people queuing in the end – eventually the store limited sales to one per person, but I know at least one person who was queuing who didn’t get one. Admittedly last week was exacerbated by the number of fans in London for the RMT gig at Shepherd’s Bush, but it was further evidence of a need to do something to maintain fairness and keep things from spiralling out of hand.
And so to today. The first two people apparently queued overnight, others just behind got there at 6am or so. I got in line at 8:40am and was about 75th. I say about because there was no proper mechanism to monitor who was where. Had they have issued easily distinguishable, unique to the day wristbands then we may have been OK. By 10am it became clear that a group of young kids were trying to push their way into the queue. At first it was five or so, and the queue kind of managed the situation. But before long, there were at least 20 of them. I saw those at the front of the queue getting crushed against the shop’s glass doors as the troublemakers began trying to force their way in.
I feel sorry for those running the store, as they’ve seemingly been hung out to dry by QPL/Universal etc. There was no security on site to help manage the situation. The police arrived just before 11am and basically didn’t really care, which, given that the store manager later told me that he was told he’d get stabbed if he didn’t let one of the troublemakers inside, isn’t a great look.
I eventually left at 12:15pm after seeing what they decided to do. Apparently they're going to sell the 500 store copies via the QOL shop. No idea when, before anybody asks! Yes, there were well-behaved eBayers in the queue each week, and I actually don’t mind that too much, but I feel devastated for those who have put in so much time to get all four 7” in this set. The man ahead of me in the queue had travelled down on the overnight coach from Leeds to get this one. The couple behind had come from Cheltenham and spent a considerable sum on their travel. FYI, I returned to the store at 3:30pm and finally two security guards were on patrol – outside, of course, because it was decided that it wouldn’t open today. Staff said that when the store reopens at 11am tomorrow none of the Brian vinyls will be on sale.
All of this was avoidable. A run of 2,500 or even 5,000 would have been better, likely satisfied demand and reduced the crazy prices on the secondary market. A review of the sales/queuing process after each week in the store would have alerted people to the increased footfall and in-person demand.
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Post by dcw70h on Oct 29, 2021 18:57:29 GMT
Nick, thanks for the first hand account. Sounds like a nightmare and from what you have said someone should have seen this coming given the way the demand for physical sales for the earlier releases progressed at the store. Hopefully no-one was seriously hurt.
My understanding is that the stores vinyl allocation was sold online at 1pm. There was no announcement they just reappeared for a few minutes. There is a tweet from the Fan Club that refers to this around 1.30 this afternoon. They were at pains to make it clear that they were unaware that the vinyls would be sold that way or that quickly.
hopefully QPL will see sense and issue another run with reasonable quantities.
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Post by Nick on Oct 29, 2021 21:04:20 GMT
Nick, thanks for the first hand account. Sounds like a nightmare and from what you have said someone should have seen this coming given the way the demand for physical sales for the earlier releases progressed at the store. Hopefully no-one was seriously hurt. My understanding is that the stores vinyl allocation was sold online at 1pm. There was no announcement they just reappeared for a few minutes. There is a tweet from the Fan Club that refers to this around 1.30 this afternoon. They were at pains to make it clear that they were unaware that the vinyls would be sold that way or that quickly. hopefully QPL will see sense and issue another run with reasonable quantities. Saw that guy’s tweet. If they put the store stock online like that without even trying to work out a way of supporting those who queued then that’s a new low… even for Queen.
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Post by moonhead on Oct 30, 2021 20:02:02 GMT
So, I was at Carnaby today. What I saw was pretty shocking and will stay with me for a while. (...) Ok guys ... this is madness, this is not a passion, this is pure madness ... Queen are responsible because in this era of pandemic (I write from Italy) it is madness to sell stuff with that method! Obviously it would have created problems!!!! Who paid for this? All that kind of regular fans who love their music.Very sad.... PS: is there some news report about that?
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Post by badboybez on Oct 30, 2021 20:17:49 GMT
Apparently QPL are contacting people who left their details behind according to their latest tweet.
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Post by Ri on Oct 31, 2021 3:58:12 GMT
Apparently QPL are contacting people who left their details behind according to their latest tweet.
But many in the replies of that tweet said they were not asked for details, they even spoke to the store manager and was told they couldn't do that. It was not handled well at all.
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Post by imthewalrus79 on Nov 2, 2021 14:07:35 GMT
I don't know if anyone he's seen Brian's latest entry on his Soapbox. But he does mention the Pop Up shop incident and looking for ways to prevent that from happening in the future. brianmay.com/brian/brianssb/brianssbnov21a.html#01I took the opportunity to email his site and give him some ideas. I also let him know about the issues with the sales of the singles on their online shop. I would suggest anyone who, like me, experienced those issues to send him a polite email as well. Just please remember that it's not his fault that these issues happened. But, I really think that, if he knows this happened, he will do what he can to make sure that future limited releases like these get into the hands of more fans and less resellers. And if not, you know you said your piece and then they obviously don't care.
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Post by pg on Nov 2, 2021 19:28:25 GMT
So they want to do limited supply without increased demand?
Seems ambitious to me, but more than happy to be educated...what were your suggestions? They may have wider applications....
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Post by chowder on Nov 6, 2021 16:11:09 GMT
Looks like I was fairly lucky, or quick, as I managed to buy all four online! The red Brian 7" is currently on its way. Fingers crossed that it will arrive in one piece like the other three as the packaging has been really bad. Although they improved it a bit for the third single. Am also curious to know if the B-side of the Roger single (IILWMC) is the album, single or Queen Rocks version? No I don't want to open my copy
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Post by cmsdrums on Nov 6, 2021 22:45:45 GMT
I don't know if anyone he's seen Brian's latest entry on his Soapbox. But he does mention the Pop Up shop incident and looking for ways to prevent that from happening in the future. brianmay.com/brian/brianssb/brianssbnov21a.html#01I took the opportunity to email his site and give him some ideas. I also let him know about the issues with the sales of the singles on their online shop. I would suggest anyone who, like me, experienced those issues to send him a polite email as well. Just please remember that it's not his fault that these issues happened. But, I really think that, if he knows this happened, he will do what he can to make sure that future limited releases like these get into the hands of more fans and less resellers. And if not, you know you said your piece and then they obviously don't care. I commented on his post where he asked for ideas…I suggested not releasing limited edition stuff like this at all, especially when it’s so aggressively marketed, and asking what exactly it adds when we have all the tracks multiple times already. I politely suggested they might consider new music or archive releases of interesting, unheard tracks or works in progress instead!!
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Post by mow955 on Nov 6, 2021 23:11:59 GMT
Fingers crossed that it will arrive in one piece like the other three as the packaging has been really bad. Although they improved it a bit for the third single. Agreed it wasn’t that difficult to get them all from the online shop. Your interesting point tho is, the terrible packaging that has become standard. Flimsy is, as flimsy does. A few orders ago, I had a pin badge put in the same envelope as the “I’m a woman” vinyl. Nasty results. Rogers latest CD arrived bent around its cassette counterpart. Has Covid hit the packing department, or is it another part of QPL that just don’t give a damn anymore? 😢
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