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Post by mattster on Nov 7, 2021 12:43:43 GMT
Fingers crossed that it will arrive in one piece like the other three as the packaging has been really bad. Although they improved it a bit for the third single. Agreed it wasn’t that difficult to get them all from the online shop. Your interesting point tho is, the terrible packaging that has become standard. Flimsy is, as flimsy does. A few orders ago, I had a pin badge put in the same envelope as the “I’m a woman” vinyl. Nasty results. Rogers latest CD arrived bent around its cassette counterpart. Has Covid hit the packing department, or is it another part of QPL that just don’t give a damn anymore? 😢 I agree, really cheap packaging, my Brian single arrived with a bent bottom corner, I just can't face contacting QPL as they really don't seem to care.
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Post by queenvault on Nov 15, 2021 0:26:33 GMT
I’m sorry if this has been covered before…. My RT blue vinyl has the number written on the back sleeve as opposed to printed. Is anyone else’s like this?
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Post by The Real Wizard on Nov 16, 2021 16:04:12 GMT
This year, ah well forget it, i am so done with this band. I hear your frustration.
But let's note that in the last decade they've released the first night at Wembley on DVD, complete audio from Budapest, the Rainbow box, and the News Of The World box - a solid five hours of new archival material, and a lot more than plenty of the old bands have put out. Don't forget that a lot of the decision making comes down to their label.
They're marketing to new fans now, because there are a whole lot more of them. If you want new stuff, a dozen new shows came out this year from audience tapes and super 8 films.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Nov 16, 2021 16:08:03 GMT
12.06pm... item was sold out... insane On eBay... the lowest prise is 90€... And when it's done in person there are riots.
What other option do they have ? You can't slow down the bots. It's 2021.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Nov 16, 2021 16:09:49 GMT
Fred would be ashamed, John saw the writing on the wall These are both subjective statements.
Freddie was commercially minded already by the mid-'80s (they all were), and John left the band for reasons that literally nobody outside of their closest circle knows.
Pretty sure I can safely say that not a single person left one of Roger's solo shows last month thinking it was a cash-in.
None of us knows for sure what's going on unless we're at their label's board meetings.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Nov 16, 2021 17:11:20 GMT
John saw the writing on the wall and has my complete and utter respect. for what exactly? sitting back and pissing the royalty cheques up the wall? get real. John took his path - it's neither better or worse then Roger & Brian's. He's certainly not taken a higher road - by any measure. Brian/Roger it’s time to take a cold hard look at yourselves for what? making the band relevant and raising the profile into the new millennium at a higher point than it's been since 1991? yes, that's utterly contemptible, isn't it? it ain't your band...never was, never will be. it's theirs, and it's their right to do with it as they see fit. if you don't like it, then don't buy into it, but don't bad-mouth them for doing what they love. you're sounding like Gerry's lovechild. lighten up fella.
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Post by georg on Nov 16, 2021 17:53:49 GMT
This year, ah well forget it, i am so done with this band. I hear your frustration.
But let's note that in the last decade they've released the first night at Wembley on DVD, complete audio from Budapest, the Rainbow box, and the News Of The World box - a solid five hours of new archival material, and a lot more than plenty of the old bands have put out. Don't forget that a lot of the decision making comes down to their label.
They're marketing to new fans now, because there are a whole lot more of them. If you want new stuff, a dozen new shows came out this year from audience tapes and super 8 films.
I would kill for deluxe editions of all their albums with a second disc of alternates, a la News of the World. I thought that was a good start – though nothing can beat the Jethro Tull book sets!
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Post by Lord Fickle on Nov 16, 2021 18:02:27 GMT
I hear your frustration.
But let's note that in the last decade they've released the first night at Wembley on DVD, complete audio from Budapest, the Rainbow box, and the News Of The World box - a solid five hours of new archival material, and a lot more than plenty of the old bands have put out. Don't forget that a lot of the decision making comes down to their label.
They're marketing to new fans now, because there are a whole lot more of them. If you want new stuff, a dozen new shows came out this year from audience tapes and super 8 films.
I would kill for deluxe editions of all their albums with a second disc of alternates, a la News of the World. I thought that was a good start – though nothing can beat the Jethro Tull book sets! I was hoping for all the albums on DVD-A, after the good start with ANATO and The Game. That went well... 🙄
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Post by The Real Wizard on Nov 16, 2021 18:21:12 GMT
John saw the writing on the wall and has my complete and utter respect. for what exactly? sitting back and pissing the royalty cheques up the wall? And that's just it. We don't know what went down interpersonally between them, but the reality is - John is raking in the dough due to all the hard work Brian and Roger have done over the past 20 years to keep the brand alive.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Nov 16, 2021 19:09:14 GMT
for what exactly? sitting back and pissing the royalty cheques up the wall? And that's just it. We don't know what went down interpersonally between them, but the reality is - John is raking in the dough due to all the hard work Brian and Roger have done over the past 20 years to keep the brand alive. yep. i was just trying to strike some balance. it's easy for folk to lambast Brian & Roger, but the band's profile would be practically invisible were it not for them. no activity over the last 20 years = no Sp Editions of LPs with bonus tracks, no FM boxset. no NoTW Deluxe, no Roger solo LPs, no Roger tour, no Rainbow release, no Hammy CD, and (regardless of my own feelings on this one) no QAL tour = no new generation of fans = DEAD STOP - of everything - from 1997. no forums, no concert shares, no rarity leaks, no online fan mixes, no discussion. No Brian & Roger Queen activity since 1997 = a complete and utter Queen vacuum. I can see that dcw70h and many with similar views have made their choice - but it's such a narrow, sadly thought-out choice when all is considered.
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Post by moonhead on Nov 16, 2021 21:04:26 GMT
12.06pm... item was sold out... insane On eBay... the lowest prise is 90€... And when it's done in person there are riots. What other option do they have ? You can't slow down the bots. It's 2021.
You are right! Wise as always... But one choice could be release that not as a limited edition... About the riots well.. many people went crazy during these years...
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Post by alexlizzy on Jan 9, 2022 10:52:47 GMT
The "funniest" and saddest thing for me with this is that instead of complaining that they are being offered useless crap and just ignore it, ppl complain that its hard to obtain this useless crap %) Says a lot, really. Ppl act like champs that are begging for being taking advantage of, and then they they cry that this is exactly what happens. %)
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Post by Dimitris on Jan 9, 2022 11:47:17 GMT
The "funniest" and saddest thing for me with this is that instead of complaining that they are being offered useless crap and just ignore it, ppl complain that its hard to obtain this useless crap %) Says a lot, really. Ppl act like champs that are begging for being taking advantage of, and then they they cry that this is exactly what happens. %) The sad thing is your way you see the ppl... You are totally wrong and out of point of view. Those who complain are long time fans collectors, many of them very serious collectors of Queen. The complains are very to the point and how Queen productions handle the limited editions through their website and store. In the end even Brian admitted. Moreover there are some people who their "work" is to re-sell on inflate the prices. They go fishing buyers who doesn't know anything about collecting and what makes an item collectable. An example made in heaven black vinyl 1995 press is rarer and with much less copies pressed than the ivory Made in heaven 1995. However the last 4-5 years, the price for the latter goes as high as Rock Montreal or on fire original LPs The list goes on... I don't want to expand how bad information is around the buyers.
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Post by alexlizzy on Jan 13, 2022 16:43:22 GMT
The "funniest" and saddest thing for me with this is that instead of complaining that they are being offered useless crap and just ignore it, ppl complain that its hard to obtain this useless crap %) Says a lot, really. Ppl act like champs that are begging for being taking advantage of, and then they they cry that this is exactly what happens. %) The sad thing is your way you see the ppl... You are totally wrong and out of point of view. Those who complain are long time fans collectors, many of them very serious collectors of Queen. The complains are very to the point and how Queen productions handle the limited editions through their website and store. Let me explain. I am talking about people that complain, like you say, BUT STILL HUNT THESE SINGLES desperately. Instead of giving out a clear and strong message - we are not interested in useless crap, which is impossible to obtain but has no real value. These singles have nothing new or interesting about them. They are OBVIOUSLY put out just as a gimmick. If people keep swallowing this stuff (like of course they do), of course QP is gonna continues to release those useless low hanging fruits and not bother with anything remotely intersting and new. No rarities, no box sets, no anthologies. Why bother? Those suckers are buying all the re-re-re-re-releases and "limited edition" color plastics with nothing new on them anyway! %) Executives see that people are "outrage" and still the same people are chasing down those same singles! So, they make an obvious conclusion - keep with the same. So, ok, maybe they learned that such limited edition are too limit and wont do THAT again. But they didnt learn that people dont want this useless crap and instead want something interesting. Because people surely act like they want that useless crap! %) Well, maybe they deserve it then...
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Post by Lord Fickle on Jan 13, 2022 17:53:08 GMT
The sad thing is your way you see the ppl... You are totally wrong and out of point of view. Those who complain are long time fans collectors, many of them very serious collectors of Queen. The complains are very to the point and how Queen productions handle the limited editions through their website and store. Let me explain. I am talking about people that complain, like you say, BUT STILL HUNT THESE SINGLES desperately. Instead of giving out a clear and strong message - we are not interested in useless crap, which is impossible to obtain but has no real value. These singles have nothing new or interesting about them. They are OBVIOUSLY put out just as a gimmick. If people keep swallowing this stuff (like of course they do), of course QP is gonna continues to release those useless low hanging fruits and not bother with anything remotely intersting and new. No rarities, no box sets, no anthologies. Why bother? Those suckers are buying all the re-re-re-re-releases and "limited edition" color plastics with nothing new on them anyway! %) Executives see that people are "outrage" and still the same people are chasing down those same singles! So, they make an obvious conclusion - keep with the same. So, ok, maybe they learned that such limited edition are too limit and wont do THAT again. But they didnt learn that people dont want this useless crap and instead want something interesting. Because people surely act like they want that useless crap! %) Well, maybe they deserve it then... I agree. Not so much about people complaining because they can't get hold of stuff, but about Queen fans in general buying every bit of tat QPL puts out, and then wondering why we don't get anything of rarity value. But, sadly, I don't think it will ever change. I have made a promise to myself not to buy any future products that don't contain something previously unreleased. That said, I'll be pre-ordering Brian's AW reissue as soon as it's available.
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Post by Dimitris on Jan 14, 2022 12:29:15 GMT
The sad thing is your way you see the ppl... You are totally wrong and out of point of view. Those who complain are long time fans collectors, many of them very serious collectors of Queen. The complains are very to the point and how Queen productions handle the limited editions through their website and store. Let me explain. I am talking about people that complain, like you say, BUT STILL HUNT THESE SINGLES desperately. Instead of giving out a clear and strong message - we are not interested in useless crap, which is impossible to obtain but has no real value. These singles have nothing new or interesting about them. They are OBVIOUSLY put out just as a gimmick. If people keep swallowing this stuff (like of course they do), of course QP is gonna continues to release those useless low hanging fruits and not bother with anything remotely intersting and new. No rarities, no box sets, no anthologies. Why bother? Those suckers are buying all the re-re-re-re-releases and "limited edition" color plastics with nothing new on them anyway! %) Executives see that people are "outrage" and still the same people are chasing down those same singles! So, they make an obvious conclusion - keep with the same. So, ok, maybe they learned that such limited edition are too limit and wont do THAT again. But they didnt learn that people dont want this useless crap and instead want something interesting. Because people surely act like they want that useless crap! %) Well, maybe they deserve it then... First of all I don't think that those who collect or buy any stuff they like - want are suckers. The record industry has to sell products. Some artist in the status of Queen suggest or is asked to give some material according their contract. Any company wants to sell product to the general public and in few occasions to their hardcore fans. Unfortunately Queen studio catalog is not so well known as is The Beatles, Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd, Queen is very popular as GH band. That's why their are big into digital downloads, streams and YT.Also specific live era DVDs. Whenever Queen tried to give something different it was flop in sales. NOTW boxset, Rainbow, Hammersmith and BBC. For a casual fan, buyer this stuff is really new and very unique, but it isn't interesting... For us hardcore fans it is a different story. So don't expect anthologies or any special release. Collectors try to buy limited editions singles, LPs and some who has plenty of money will jump into other expensive things, it is their decision and choice. You have to respect that. If Queen studio cataloge was not platinum and GH be sure that, we would have beautiful boxsets. When LMIYHA was released nobody cared, when they played live SYW and It's late only few audiences appreciated. P. S. GH is the 5th best selling album in UK for 2021 and did also very well in USA, Japan and some other countries. It tells something. If GH had withdrawn, maybe some studio albums would have been well known and the re-re-releases would be much different.
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Post by moonhead on Jan 15, 2022 13:35:35 GMT
You could be right but... many of others group not so famous and/or popular as Queen, sell boxset with tons of unreleased material. An example? King Crimson! Almost every album was re-released with tons of related-live materials (with a cheap price), dvd, bluray with HD remix... so, for me, its just to have respect of all the fans. Old and new. They could put out what they want but there is a market for everything. Just a compromise of commercial stuff with hardcore stuff. I think we don't ask too much.
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Post by Dimitris on Jan 15, 2022 16:58:32 GMT
You could be right but... many of others group not so famous amd/or popular as Queen, sell boxset with tons of unreleased material. An example? King Crimson! Almost every album was re-released with tons of related-live materials (with a cheap price), dvd, bluray with HD remix... so, for me, its just to have respect of all the fans. Old and new. They could put out what they want but there is a market for everything. Just a compromise of commercial stuff with hardcore stuff. I think we don't ask too much. I have the same hopes and wishes about future releases. In mid 00s the anthologies were about to come, but due their then recent activities with Paul, the plans changed. Few years later new record company and the rest is history. Universal music group have done well job for keeping their popularity, let's hope that is time to invest into some studio albums (boxset or any kind of idea with good stuff).
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