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Post by The Fairy King on Apr 29, 2022 11:13:29 GMT
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Post by pimderks on Apr 29, 2022 12:00:56 GMT
Never heard that Miracle mix before either - same for the alternate Seven Seas Of Rhye mix with the GSTQ intro. Hard to believe this was an "official" release, I can see why it wasn't released. Nice to hear those alternate vocals though! I've always liked the Dragon Attack, Stone Cold Crazy (Reznor) and Ogre Battle remixes. Always liked the remixes which stayed close to the original, like TYMD and STL.
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Post by sheep2 on Apr 29, 2022 14:04:16 GMT
There was also a remix for Flash's Theme, by Mista Lawnge.
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Post by sheep2 on Apr 29, 2022 14:24:26 GMT
Does anyone know the logic behind the releases?
Mad The Swine and See What A Fool I've Been were included, but not A Human Body or Soul Brother. Thank God It's Christmas also disappeared. No Stealin' But Hang On in There And Chinese Torture were on The Miracle. Similarly No A Dozen Red Roses For My Darling or Blurred Vision, but there was a different One Vision extended mix. While the UK CD bonus mixes were missing from A Kind Of Magic.
It also wasn't clear why the remixes stopped with Hot Space. It left The Works, A Kind Of Magic, The Miracle and Innuendo. The first 3 had extra tracks and mixes, but Innuendo had nothing extra on it.
It felt like they got part way through the rereleases and changed approach for no apparent reason.
I replaced my cassettes (some were pretty worn) with these as there was a shop in Bristol selling them for pretty much the same price as the UK CDs. I didn't buy Innuendo. I'm not sure they had it and also bought the UK CD of A Kind Of Magic as well for the extra tracks on it. I've also got the Greatest Hits and Classic Queen CDs.
I don't think the mastering was great on some of the discs. It might have been the same as the UK CDs.
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Post by The Fairy King on Apr 29, 2022 14:51:15 GMT
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Post by Golden Salmon on Apr 29, 2022 15:18:11 GMT
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Post by Plengel on Apr 29, 2022 17:04:28 GMT
Some info on the Cohen-Jiya remix can be found on www.queenvault.com. Not included on the Hollywood Records re-release, but the 1982 Extended Remix of Staying Power was also created by John Luongo. In 1991 he did the Liar remix for Hollywood Records.
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Post by leroybrown on Apr 30, 2022 6:38:53 GMT
There was also a Rock You / Champions CD single with 3-4 remixes on it.
The Trent Reznor tracks are fantastic. He also did a great cover version of Get Down Make Love.
Does anyone here have a lossless collection of those mixes? Many of them I’ve never heard before.
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Post by dysan on Apr 30, 2022 8:37:14 GMT
Does anyone know the logic behind the releases? Mad The Swine and See What A Fool I've Been were included, but not A Human Body or Soul Brother. Thank God It's Christmas also disappeared. No Stealin' But Hang On in There And Chinese Torture were on The Miracle. Similarly No A Dozen Red Roses For My Darling or Blurred Vision, but there was a different One Vision extended mix. While the UK CD bonus mixes were missing from A Kind Of Magic. It also wasn't clear why the remixes stopped with Hot Space. It left The Works, A Kind Of Magic, The Miracle and Innuendo. The first 3 had extra tracks and mixes, but Innuendo had nothing extra on it. It felt like they got part way through the rereleases and changed approach for no apparent reason. I replaced my cassettes (some were pretty worn) with these as there was a shop in Bristol selling them for pretty much the same price as the UK CDs. I didn't buy Innuendo. I'm not sure they had it and also bought the UK CD of A Kind Of Magic as well for the extra tracks on it. I've also got the Greatest Hits and Classic Queen CDs. I don't think the mastering was great on some of the discs. It might have been the same as the UK CDs. Logic? Queen reissues? Pah! At the time I guess they were a rather misguided attempt by the new label Hollywood to give a contemporary spin on the back catalogue for a largely disinterested US audience. In all honesty, they sounded hugely dated at the time. I'd say the reason Innuendo didn't have bonus material is that it was the current release. The 80s albums had extra material (extended version and b-sides etc) that meant remixes were not required. I have a love hate thing with them. Some were interesting as they had unused bits from the masters and others were a bit cringe (Seven Seas Of Rhye feels like it goes out of tune?). My fave has always been the Flash remix. Overlong, yes, but that little fairground organ riff that comes in is sweet AF. As a purchaser at the time, my main interest was the packaging. The inlays were beautiful and a real step up from the basic cassette inlays the UK releases had. I eventually got the CDs too (they got quite cheap by the late 90s) and they were my main copies. Ditched the lot of the years and really wish I'd kept them. I think the tracks do deserve a place in the current catalogue. I wouldn't have minded if they were added to the 2011 reissues for completeness with a little explainer in the booklet. A compilation of them might be considered the worst Queen release, but I'd welcome it. A curious little blip in the story that deserves retelling.
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Post by Steve on Apr 30, 2022 8:52:08 GMT
Great to hear The Miracle's new vocals. That remix is shit though lol.
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Post by jeroeng on Apr 30, 2022 14:00:47 GMT
Does anyone know the logic behind the releases? Mad The Swine and See What A Fool I've Been were included, but not A Human Body or Soul Brother. Thank God It's Christmas also disappeared. No Stealin' But Hang On in There And Chinese Torture were on The Miracle. Similarly No A Dozen Red Roses For My Darling or Blurred Vision, but there was a different One Vision extended mix. While the UK CD bonus mixes were missing from A Kind Of Magic. It also wasn't clear why the remixes stopped with Hot Space. It left The Works, A Kind Of Magic, The Miracle and Innuendo. The first 3 had extra tracks and mixes, but Innuendo had nothing extra on it. It felt like they got part way through the rereleases and changed approach for no apparent reason. I replaced my cassettes (some were pretty worn) with these as there was a shop in Bristol selling them for pretty much the same price as the UK CDs. I didn't buy Innuendo. I'm not sure they had it and also bought the UK CD of A Kind Of Magic as well for the extra tracks on it. I've also got the Greatest Hits and Classic Queen CDs. I don't think the mastering was great on some of the discs. It might have been the same as the UK CDs. Logic? Queen reissues? Pah! At the time I guess they were a rather misguided attempt by the new label Hollywood to give a contemporary spin on the back catalogue for a largely disinterested US audience. In all honesty, they sounded hugely dated at the time. I'd say the reason Innuendo didn't have bonus material is that it was the current release. The 80s albums had extra material (extended version and b-sides etc) that meant remixes were not required. I have a love hate thing with them. Some were interesting as they had unused bits from the masters and others were a bit cringe (Seven Seas Of Rhye feels like it goes out of tune?). My fave has always been the Flash remix. Overlong, yes, but that little fairground organ riff that comes in is sweet AF. As a purchaser at the time, my main interest was the packaging. The inlays were beautiful and a real step up from the basic cassette inlays the UK releases had. I eventually got the CDs too (they got quite cheap by the late 90s) and they were my main copies. Ditched the lot of the years and really wish I'd kept them. I think the tracks do deserve a place in the current catalogue. I wouldn't have minded if they were added to the 2011 reissues for completeness with a little explainer in the booklet. A compilation of them might be considered the worst Queen release, but I'd welcome it. A curious little blip in the story that deserves retelling. Basically this indeed I think. From The Works on official remixes already existed, so there was no 'need' to make new remixes. That said, both 'Staying Power' and 'Back Chat' had official extended remixes, so why they didn't use them + 'Soul Brother' and instead made a new remix of 'Body Language' for Hot Space is beyond me. The Works had two already existing remixes + 'I Go Crazy'. A Kind Of Magic kept the 'Forever' piano version, but replaced 'A Kind Of A Kind Of Magic' and 'Friends Will Be Friends Will Be Friends' with 'One Vision Extended Vision' (which is the only CD-release to date to feature this official remix BTW!) The Miracle was in fact the same as the previous CD-version (so including the same bonus tracks 'Hang On In There', 'Chinese Torture' and 'The Invisible Man Extended', but added 'Scandal Extended' to it. They could've gone for 'Breakthru Extended' or one of the several other non-album B-sides, but they chose 'Scandal'. Innuendo was the the current release, so it would make little sense to add bonus tracks to it. Queen I up to Hot Space had new remixes, and Queen I/II had B-sides 'Mad The Swine' and 'See What A Fool I've Been', however Hot Space didn't feature 'Soul Brother' (don't know why) and The Game didn't feature 'A Humand Body' (possibly because of Roger not liking it at the time?)... and Queen I had the alternate version 'Keep Yourself Alive', which is a bit of a strange duck between the rest, as it's an official alternative version, but never released before. I heard a rumour once that Hollywood Records received 'wrong' tapes for the remastering by accident which contained 'Mad The Swine' and 'Keep Yourself Alive alternative version' and they asked permission to include them, which was OK'd, but Parlophone/EMI on their turn then wanted to put 'Mad The Swine' on an Innuendo-era single.
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Post by macduff77 on Apr 30, 2022 15:06:15 GMT
I was never a fan of the 90’s style remixes, especially on the older 70’s albums. I understand Hollywood’s thought process, but they were very poor. Some of the more subtle remixes like TYMD, YMBF, STL were ok. I do love all of Trent Reznor’s remixes, despite not featuring on these releases.
Also - I believe that ‘A Human Body’ wasn’t included as the master was lost at the time. Either from Hollywood, or en transit to them (my memory might be off here).
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Post by ted on Apr 30, 2022 16:24:11 GMT
I bought 5 of Queen's 70's albums (Queen, QII, ANATO, ADATR, Jazz) when they were re-released by Hollywood Records in the early 90's. I agree with the sentiments above that the remixes were hit-and miss; I also felt that the packaging, while generally an improvement, wasn't the best it could be as alterations and omissions were present. Also, although it was nice to include the lyrics in each album, there were a number of inaccuracies in the lyrics in some cases.
I ended up re-selling my Queen and 'Opera' CDs but kept the rest; I subsequently purchased the 2011 re-issue of Queen on CD w/the 'bonus ep' containing the De Lea Lane demos and Mad the Swine.
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Post by Walter B. on May 1, 2022 15:43:07 GMT
On the Hollywood Records 'BASIC Queen Bootlegs' CDr there is a remix of Under Pressure by Mr. Mixx.
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Post by sheep2 on May 1, 2022 19:03:46 GMT
There was also a Rock You / Champions CD single with 3-4 remixes on it. The Trent Reznor tracks are fantastic. He also did a great cover version of Get Down Make Love. Does anyone here have a lossless collection of those mixes? Many of them I’ve never heard before. The We Will Rock You tracks are 1) We Will Rock You 2) Ruined Instrumental 3) We Are The Champions 4) Big Beat A Cappella 5) Zulu Scratch A Cappella Apart from track 3 they are all versions of We Will Rock You.
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Post by alexlizzy on May 3, 2022 5:51:32 GMT
Does anyone know the logic behind the releases? Mad The Swine and See What A Fool I've Been were included, but not A Human Body or Soul Brother. Thank God It's Christmas also disappeared. No Stealin' But Hang On in There And Chinese Torture were on The Miracle. Similarly No A Dozen Red Roses For My Darling or Blurred Vision, but there was a different One Vision extended mix. While the UK CD bonus mixes were missing from A Kind Of Magic. It also wasn't clear why the remixes stopped with Hot Space. It left The Works, A Kind Of Magic, The Miracle and Innuendo. The first 3 had extra tracks and mixes, but Innuendo had nothing extra on it. It felt like they got part way through the rereleases and changed approach for no apparent reason. I replaced my cassettes (some were pretty worn) with these as there was a shop in Bristol selling them for pretty much the same price as the UK CDs. I didn't buy Innuendo. I'm not sure they had it and also bought the UK CD of A Kind Of Magic as well for the extra tracks on it. I've also got the Greatest Hits and Classic Queen CDs. I don't think the mastering was great on some of the discs. It might have been the same as the UK CDs. Well, Innuendo was not a part of "remasters" series, just a regular release (released before that series). I think the reason remixes "stopped" with Hot Spaces is simply that with later albums they could (and wanted) to use existing extended mixes from 12'', so there was no room and also necessity to create additional bonus remixes. The "remixes" already existed - the extended mixes from singles.
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Post by alexlizzy on May 3, 2022 5:53:53 GMT
Thanks for the collection of links! Havent heard most of those that didnt make to HR remasters!
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Post by eiricd on May 4, 2022 12:03:57 GMT
I think this was missing from the first post
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Post by scapp70 on May 4, 2022 17:34:37 GMT
IMO, except for the tacky effect they added to the drum intro, the Liar Remix by John Luongo is one of the greatest things I've ever heard. I love the heavy percussion in the 'Mama I'm gonna be your slave" part, it surpasses the original if you ask me. Most of the other remixes, I didn't really get. I hated the We Will Rock You remix originally, but now it has grown on me
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Post by Walter B. on May 7, 2022 15:37:31 GMT
Should the following tracks also be included?
I Can't Live With You (Brian Malouf Remix) I Can't Live With You (Brian Malouf Remix Edit)
Hammer To Fall (Brian Malouf Remix) Hammer To Fall (Brian Malouf Remix Edit)
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Post by alexlizzy on Jun 6, 2022 11:11:40 GMT
This seems to be some unofficial remix. The IceCube one from "Basic Queen Bootlegs" can be found here
The "Basic Queen Bootlegs" also contained a Mr. Mixx remix of "Under Pressure", but I didnt find it on youtube :/
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Post by dysan on Jun 6, 2022 11:32:38 GMT
The Mr. Mixx remix of "Under Pressure" might be the worst thing in the Queen catalogue. LOADS of scratching, plays far too fast and out of tune sample.
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Post by Steve on Jun 6, 2022 18:33:16 GMT
The Miracle link is dead.
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Post by alexlizzy on Jun 7, 2022 13:25:20 GMT
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Post by cmsdrums on Jun 11, 2022 13:48:08 GMT
One of the things evident from a lot of these remixes is how integral Roger’s drum sound (especially his snare) is to making tracks sound like Queen - some of the treatments are criminal.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Jun 11, 2022 15:26:27 GMT
does this remix use a Madonna sample as the main loop?
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Post by angusscrimm on Jun 12, 2022 10:13:23 GMT
Not really a fan of any of the remixes tbh. The Miracle one was new to me, I gave it a listen to this morning, and that will be the last time!
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Post by The Real Wizard on Jun 17, 2022 19:26:08 GMT
Never heard that Miracle mix before either - same for the alternate Seven Seas Of Rhye mix with the GSTQ intro. Hard to believe this was an "official" release, I can see why it wasn't released. Nice to hear those alternate vocals though! There's an unheard guitar part at 1:53 too, and the end solo goes on for longer - fabulous to hear this. It seems like the remixers were given access to the 32 (ish?) track masters.
But egads, the drum machines are atrocious - who in their right mind thought this was a good idea ?
When was this remix done, and for what purpose ?
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Post by Maxi Dries on Jun 27, 2022 14:27:51 GMT
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