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Post by wijnand on May 30, 2022 11:45:27 GMT
The only time they had a support act afaik was in Marlay Park in 2018 with The Darkness and Boomtown Rats. Since it was a festival in July. -Chin Q+AL had Larkin Poe as a support act in Cologne on May 27, 2016 (Rhein Energie Stadion).
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Post by snakecharmer on May 30, 2022 11:50:46 GMT
So glad that I did not bother going to see this final tour ? I like to remember them from Hyde Park, The Crazy Tour, Milton Keynes, Knebworth. It's nothing to do with AL ,I don't hate him after all who would turn down Brian and Roger to be part of these shows. Its rather more the whole thing , the set list is as dull as dishwater, ticket prices , Roger and Brian are well past their best. I am rather ill and not up to concerts anymore these days. Good luck to new fans that are enjoying the tour, but its just not my bag anymore. I have my memories so that is something that I will always have.
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Post by florians on May 30, 2022 12:08:32 GMT
Regarding the setlist...isn't the discussion amog the fans of every big classic act? The small group of die hard fans wants more deep cuts and less classic hits, but the majority of the audience is just a greatest hits audience.
Imagine they would skip IWTBF, GaGa, WWRY, SBTL and AKOM and would play Tenement Funster, Ogre Battle, Drowse, It's late and Liar instead...I doubt that this would make the majority of the ticket holders happy.
Allthogh I have admit that they could swap some of the hits and throw in stuff like the Miracle, Good old fashioned Loverboy, you are my best Friend or it's a hard life.
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Post by Nick on May 30, 2022 12:31:19 GMT
Regarding the setlist...isn't the discussion amog the fans of every big classic act? The small group of die hard fans wants more deep cuts and less classic hits, but the majority of the audience is just a greatest hits audience. Imagine they would skip IWTBF, GaGa, WWRY, SBTL and AKOM and would play Tenement Funster, Ogre Battle, Drowse, It's late and Liar instead...I doubt that this would make the majority of the ticket holders happy. Allthogh I have admit that they could swap some of the hits and throw in stuff like the Miracle, Good old fashioned Loverboy, you are my best Friend or it's a hard life. Nobody is asking them to come out and play the Flash album in its entirety. But a couple more album tracks would be greatly appreciated. Let’s not forget that 16 - 17 if you include Brian’s solo - songs that are coming out on this tour were played at the first full Q+PR show at Brixton in March 2005! (With two more added by the final night of the EU arena stand!)
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Post by florians on May 30, 2022 12:43:24 GMT
Regarding the setlist...isn't the discussion amog the fans of every big classic act? The small group of die hard fans wants more deep cuts and less classic hits, but the majority of the audience is just a greatest hits audience. Imagine they would skip IWTBF, GaGa, WWRY, SBTL and AKOM and would play Tenement Funster, Ogre Battle, Drowse, It's late and Liar instead...I doubt that this would make the majority of the ticket holders happy. Allthogh I have admit that they could swap some of the hits and throw in stuff like the Miracle, Good old fashioned Loverboy, you are my best Friend or it's a hard life. Nobody is asking them to come out and play the Flash album in its entirety. But a couple more album tracks would be greatly appreciated. Let’s not forget that 16 - 17 if you include Brian’s solo - songs that are coming out on this tour were played at the first full Q+PR show at Brixton in March 2005! (With two more added by the final night of the EU arena stand!) I get your point and agree. But from their point of view...neither their catalog nor the "need" of the majority of their audience have changed. From what I see from the YT clips the audience did not react too enthusiasticly when stuff like Machines, it's late or spread your Wings comes up. As I said...they would have a large number of well known stuff they could bring up...why do they play IWBTLY only to the Japanese audience? How about Headlong or Breakthru'? This kind of stuff would be fine for the GH 1&2 audience and the die hards.
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Post by Nicki on May 30, 2022 13:18:21 GMT
I get your point and agree. But from their point of view...neither their catalog nor the "need" of the majority of their audience have changed. From what I see from the YT clips the audience did not react too enthusiasticly when stuff like Machines, it's late or spread your Wings comes up. As I said...they would have a large number of well known stuff they could bring up...why do they play IWBTLY only to the Japanese audience? How about Headlong or Breakthru'? This kind of stuff would be fine for the GH 1&2 audience and the die hards. They did take IWBTLY outside of Japan for the first time last tour and played it in New Zealand (right after the Japan gigs). The band had heard the fans asking for it online. But they dropped it nevertheless after 2 nights. Apparently the audiences didn’t appreciate it the way they dining Japan?
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Post by ActionThisDay on May 30, 2022 14:29:01 GMT
Saturday night in Belfast was a fantastic show. The lights and special effects were nearly worth the ticket price alone (although I only paid £50 for a standing ticket). Brian and Roger sound as good as ever. For those complaining about the setlist, remember this show is aimed at the general public not the diehards. Hence the heavy reliance on GH1 (12 tracks) and GH2 (8 tracks). Although they did throw in a few lesser-known songs like In the Lap of the Gods (Revisited) and Tear It Up . Where I was standing I seemed to be the only person that knew these songs. The well-known hits all went down a storm and 28 original Queen tracks performed is more than they used to do with Freddie after 1978. Some of the arrangements have been changed and not for the better IMO: They only play half the first verse of Fat Bottomed Girls then go into the chorus which was quite jarring. They only perform the first verse of Radio Ga Ga and omit the second entirely. They perform just the second verse of Tear It Up , not the first verse as it was before. I would definitely recommend the show if anyone's on the fence about going - you won't regret it. I wouldn't pay the £100+ prices though.
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Post by Nicki on May 30, 2022 14:36:47 GMT
Saturday night in Belfast was a fantastic show. The lights and special effects were nearly worth the ticket price alone (although I only paid £50 for a standing ticket). Brian and Roger sound as good as ever. For those complaining about the setlist, remember this show is aimed at the general public not the diehards. Hence the heavy reliance on GH1 (12 tracks) and GH2 (8 tracks). Although they did throw in a few lesser-known songs like In the Lap of the Gods (Revisited) and Tear It Up . Where I was standing I seemed to be the only person that knew these songs. The well-known hits all went down a storm and 28 original Queen tracks performed is more than they used to do with Freddie after 1978. Some of the arrangements have been changed and not for the better IMO: They only play half the first verse of Fat Bottomed Girls then go into the chorus which was quite jarring. They only perform the first verse of Radio Ga Ga and omit the second entirely. They perform just the second verse of Tear It Up , not the first verse as it was before. I would definitely recommend the show if anyone's on the fence about going - you won't regret it. I wouldn't pay the £100+ prices though. Thanks for the recap! as for the changes: Don’t they always only play the first verse of Radio Gaga? I think they only played it completely in 2012. As for the second verse of Tear it up: I wouldn’t put it past Adam that he simply mixed up the verses. But probably not. As far as I‘ve read, they do really play lots of songs this time , but many of them shortened by a lot. I guess that should help to keep up the overall pace?
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Post by ActionThisDay on May 30, 2022 14:45:53 GMT
Don’t they always only play the first verse of Radio Gaga? I think they only played it completely in 2012. As for the second verse of Tear it up: I wouldn’t put it past Adam that he simply mixed up the verses. But probably not. As far as I‘ve read, they do really play lots of songs this time , but many of them shortened by a lot. I guess that should help to keep up the overall pace? I saw them in 2017 and can't remember if they played the 2nd verse of RGG or not. Reagrding TIA no they must've pre-rehearsed it. You can't just sing the second verse lyrics instead of the first, the second verse has an extra part that the first doesn't ('wind me up, let me go').
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Post by Ri on May 30, 2022 14:49:48 GMT
Saturday night in Belfast was a fantastic show. The lights and special effects were nearly worth the ticket price alone (although I only paid £50 for a standing ticket). Brian and Roger sound as good as ever. For those complaining about the setlist, remember this show is aimed at the general public not the diehards. Hence the heavy reliance on GH1 (12 tracks) and GH2 (8 tracks). Although they did throw in a few lesser-known songs like In the Lap of the Gods (Revisited) and Tear It Up . Where I was standing I seemed to be the only person that knew these songs. The well-known hits all went down a storm and 28 original Queen tracks performed is more than they used to do with Freddie after 1978. Some of the arrangements have been changed and not for the better IMO: They only play half the first verse of Fat Bottomed Girls then go into the chorus which was quite jarring. They only perform the first verse of Radio Ga Ga and omit the second entirely. They perform just the second verse of Tear It Up , not the first verse as it was before. I would definitely recommend the show if anyone's on the fence about going - you won't regret it. I wouldn't pay the £100+ prices though. Thank you for the recap! Just to confirm, do you mean the songs are shortened on second night compared to first night (i.e. they did the whole thing for those songs in the first night), or are they short on both of those nights? I'm assuming the first but just clarifying.
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Post by Nicki on May 30, 2022 15:44:12 GMT
Don’t they always only play the first verse of Radio Gaga? I think they only played it completely in 2012. As for the second verse of Tear it up: I wouldn’t put it past Adam that he simply mixed up the verses. But probably not. As far as I‘ve read, they do really play lots of songs this time , but many of them shortened by a lot. I guess that should help to keep up the overall pace? I saw them in 2017 and can't remember if they played the 2nd verse of RGG or not. Reagrding TIA no they must've pre-rehearsed it. You can't just sing the second verse lyrics instead of the first, the second verse has an extra part that the first doesn't ('wind me up, let me go'). I bet they didn’t play the 2nd verse of RGG in 2017. I saw them in 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018. They never did. It was a real surprise, when I watched a video from 2012 and they played the whole song. thanks for the input about TIA!
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Post by masterstroke on May 30, 2022 16:06:05 GMT
I don't want to sound disappointed, I just point out one thing: What is new from the previous tour is Brian's toy.
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Post by ActionThisDay on May 30, 2022 16:23:27 GMT
Thank you for the recap! Just to confirm, do you mean the songs are shortened on second night compared to first night (i.e. they did the whole thing for those songs in the first night), or are they short on both of those nights? I'm assuming the first but just clarifying. I only attended the Saturday night but I'd be amazed if they changed the arrangement overnight so I'd say Friday was the same. One thing I forgot to mention (and I love the guy) but Brian May's guitar solo is REALLY boring. Was considering going for a toilet break but I stuck around. It's a long show, nearly two and a half hours.
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Post by Nicki on May 30, 2022 16:25:14 GMT
I don't want to sound disappointed, I just point out one thing: What is new from the previous tour is Brian's toy. That’s true! spoilers (how can I hide them?): But also the change of singer on AKOM. The addition of the (original) intro to STL and other small things. I haven’t seen all the songs yet (and won’t, before I‘m going to see the show in person), but from what I‘ve heard and seen so far, the changes are small, but they do make me curious! I think there’s much more to that set than the setlist gives away! (If that makes sense.)
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Post by ActionThisDay on May 30, 2022 16:26:54 GMT
Also forgot to mention Bohemian Rhapsody is played too late in the set for me and should be brought forward a few songs.
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Post by Nicki on May 30, 2022 16:29:11 GMT
Thank you for the recap! Just to confirm, do you mean the songs are shortened on second night compared to first night (i.e. they did the whole thing for those songs in the first night), or are they short on both of those nights? I'm assuming the first but just clarifying. I only attended the Saturday night but I'd be amazed if they changed the arrangement overnight so I'd say Friday was the same. One thing I forgot to mention (and I love the guy) but Brian May's guitar solo is REALLY boring. Was considering going for a toilet break but I stuck around. It's a long show, nearly two and a half hours. According to fans who had been at both shows, they cut about 10 minutes after the Friday show. One song and the band intros and also little cuts here and there. The fans said, that their group really appreciated that and thought that - despite losing a song - the show on Friday had been almost too long and the one on Saturday felt a bit tighter.
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Post by Lord Fickle on May 30, 2022 16:39:17 GMT
Regarding the setlist...isn't the discussion amog the fans of every big classic act? The small group of die hard fans wants more deep cuts and less classic hits, but the majority of the audience is just a greatest hits audience. Imagine they would skip IWTBF, GaGa, WWRY, SBTL and AKOM and would play Tenement Funster, Ogre Battle, Drowse, It's late and Liar instead...I doubt that this would make the majority of the ticket holders happy. Allthogh I have admit that they could swap some of the hits and throw in stuff like the Miracle, Good old fashioned Loverboy, you are my best Friend or it's a hard life. Nobody is asking them to come out and play the Flash album in its entirety. But a couple more album tracks would be greatly appreciated. Let’s not forget that 16 - 17 if you include Brian’s solo - songs that are coming out on this tour were played at the first full Q+PR show at Brixton in March 2005! (With two more added by the final night of the EU arena stand!) It would take a lot of rehearsal but one idea might be to do two (or four, six, etc) nights in one venue and vary the set for each night. They could advertise the fact that the songs will be different and people could choose which nights they wanted to attend. I'm not saying the entire sets should be totally different, as there's some staples that appeal to all fans, but if they did at least 50% deeper album cuts for one set, and the other set just the big hits, that should please everyone. I realise this is just a pipe dream, and the visuals all have to be programmed, which is one reason why the sets don't vary much, but when you compare Queen to, say, My Chemical Romance, who's sets on their current UK tour have been different every night, I think it's fair to say that although the song orders may have changed, Queen's setlists have been largely the same for decades.
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Post by ActionThisDay on May 30, 2022 16:44:30 GMT
"According to fans who had been at both shows, they cut about 10 minutes after the Friday show. One song and the band intros and also little cuts here and there. The fans said, that their group really appreciated that and thought that - despite losing a song - the show on Friday had been almost too long and the one on Saturday felt a bit tighter. That's interesting, they possibly did play longer versions on Friday then. I don't know if I could've taken another ten minutes! I was gutted when I discovered Keep Yourself Alive had been performed on Friday, one of my favourite Queen songs. And that would've been at least one track off each album except Made In Heaven. I also didn't know they were doing the Innuendo/Now I'm Here opening and it gave me goosebumps.
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Post by Ri on May 31, 2022 1:28:30 GMT
I don't want to sound disappointed, I just point out one thing: What is new from the previous tour is Brian's toy. That’s true!  spoilers (how can I hide them?): But also the change of singer on AKOM. The addition of the (original)  intro to STL and other small things. I haven’t seen all the songs yet (and won’t, before I‘m going to see the show in person), but from what I‘ve heard and seen so far, the changes are small, but they do make me curious! I think there’s much more to that set than the setlist gives away! (If that makes sense.) I've just watched the STL intro harmonies and it's very lovely touch!
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Post by Nicki on May 31, 2022 13:13:18 GMT
That’s true! spoilers (how can I hide them?): But also the change of singer on AKOM. The addition of the (original) intro to STL and other small things. I haven’t seen all the songs yet (and won’t, before I‘m going to see the show in person), but from what I‘ve heard and seen so far, the changes are small, but they do make me curious! I think there’s much more to that set than the setlist gives away! (If that makes sense.) I've just watched the STL intro harmonies and it's very lovely touch! It really is! Their harmonies always sound really tight and actually pretty perfect. QAL doesn‘t really need a studio album. They could just release all their live recordings.
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Post by Nicki on May 31, 2022 13:15:05 GMT
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Post by georg on May 31, 2022 13:23:05 GMT
spoilers (how can I hide them?): Easy! Put [ spoiler ] and [ /spoiler ] (without the spaces between brackets) around what you don't want to spoil. Some of the arrangements have been changed and not for the better IMO: I noticed this when I listened to a 2020 show and it really took me out of it. I'm sure it works better in concert and not when passively listening to it while working, but it's very jarring. Reminds me of Live Magic, except these are live "edits". They do cram a lot of material into the set, of course (a 28 song set list is impressive for a legacy act, considering the Stones and the Who's sets hover between 17 and 19 songs per night), but at what expense? Regardless, those complaining about the set list (and I'm one of them) need to remember that this is a continuation of the Rhapsody tour, it's not a new tour. Yeah it would've been nice to have had a surprise or two thrown in, but The Miracle box hasn't been announced yet, so if they do tour to support it, it'll probably be a Miracle-themed tour (or maybe they'll add, I dunno, Breakthru to the set). That the set list stayed the same isn't really a surprise; historically, once Queen settled on a set list, they rarely deviated from it, especially on the Works and Magic tours. And even Q+PL and Q+AL's sets seemed to be set once they were set, so expecting a drastically different set, or even one new song, is setting yourself up for disappointment, sadly. I do think it would be neat if Q+AL did a Miracle tour, if they did it like the fans have done it, by constructing a "what would they have played if they could tour in 1989" set (and I guess they could throw The Show Must Go On in there if they wanted to), kinda like how they did the Live Aid set in Australia 2½ years ago, but I don't see that happening.
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Post by ActionThisDay on May 31, 2022 16:58:56 GMT
Manchester setlist the same as Belfast 2nd night, Keep Yourself Alive still dropped.
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Post by pg on May 31, 2022 18:00:33 GMT
Manchester setlist the same as Belfast 2nd night, Keep Yourself Alive still dropped. Surely it's not a (made you look) to say what wasn't played?
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Post by Mercury Roadrunner on May 31, 2022 21:15:51 GMT
Hello, dear friends My sincere apologies to the admimistrators of the forum, if it is inappropriate to ask - is it possible in this thread to share the links on platforms like mixlr with the links to the broadcast of Q+AL concert?
Thank you
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on May 31, 2022 21:32:08 GMT
Hello, dear friends My sincere apologies to the admimistrators of the forum, if it is inappropriate to ask - is it possible in this thread to share the links on platforms like mixlr with the links to the broadcast of Q+AL concert? Thank you MR you say it's a "broadcast". doesn't that by default mean it was on TV/Radio? If so, then it's owned by the media company and should not be shared.
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Post by Ri on May 31, 2022 21:37:24 GMT
Hello, dear friends My sincere apologies to the admimistrators of the forum, if it is inappropriate to ask - is it possible in this thread to share the links on platforms like mixlr with the links to the broadcast of Q+AL concert? Thank you MR you say it's a "broadcast". doesn't that by default mean it was on TV/Radio? If so, then it's owned by the media company and should not be shared. It's actually a fan-organized series of online audio streams through the tour, I'm with some friends who are setting it up. If it's fine I think it's best to keep the Mixlr links off the forum, we don't want copyright issues or anything that may get it blocked and we worked really hard to organize it.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on May 31, 2022 21:49:03 GMT
you say it's a "broadcast". doesn't that by default mean it was on TV/Radio? If so, then it's owned by the media company and should not be shared. It's actually a fan-organized series of online audio streams through the tour, I'm with some friends who are setting it up. If it's fine I think it's best to keep the Mixlr links off the forum, we don't want copyright issues or anything that may get it blocked and we worked really hard to organize it. well, on the same basis, we support your request. No Mixlr links are to be posted.
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Post by primejiveusa on Jun 1, 2022 21:23:20 GMT
Evidently Brian is saying they are feeling "a little battle-scarred" from playing so "dangerously".
Could someone explain to me what he is saying here? Also, is he referring to the whole band(Spike, Tyler, etc) or just Rog, Adam and himself?
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Post by Nicki on Jun 1, 2022 21:44:27 GMT
I do really enjoy this version of A Kind Of Magic! That’s a really good performance from last night in Manchester. If you don’t want to be spoilt before your own show, then you better not watch it. To the rest of you: Enjoy!
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