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Post by mikusguitarius on Oct 12, 2022 11:58:43 GMT
Out of all of Queen’s albums, I’m certain that this would benefit from a remix. Just stereo, a la Giles Martin, although a 5.1 remix would be awesome too!!
It was recorded to 16 track so it may benefit from AI ‘demixing’ to separate anything that was permanently bounced together. More options for cleaner mixes.
Personally I think the HD remix of Teo Toriatte was awesome… same could apply here.
MAYBE AI algorithms will come along that can remove distortion. Just think: Roger’s beautiful Tom fills but without harsh clipping!!
LAST THING… this is total pie in the sky haha!! But I can I dream.
please let me know your thoughts….
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Post by JackG on Oct 12, 2022 12:13:16 GMT
A 5.1 remix was considered in 2005, but nothing came out of it.
The only good "mix" other than the official release it's the C_Matt revision, it brings out some things that were "muddied" in the original mix
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Post by dane on Nov 9, 2022 12:49:37 GMT
A 5.1 remix was considered in 2005, but nothing came out of it. The only good "mix" other than the official release it's the C_Matt revision, it brings out some things that were "muddied" in the original mix That was actually a very interesting listen. Quite an enjoyable alternative to the original mix. |
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Post by Brian's Wig on Nov 10, 2022 10:48:00 GMT
Out of all of Queen’s albums, I’m certain that this would benefit from a remix. Just stereo, a la Giles Martin, although a 5.1 remix would be awesome too!! It was recorded to 16 track so it may benefit from AI ‘demixing’ to separate anything that was permanently bounced together. More options for cleaner mixes. Personally I think the HD remix of Teo Toriatte was awesome… same could apply here. MAYBE AI algorithms will come along that can remove distortion. Just think: Roger’s beautiful Tom fills but without harsh clipping!! LAST THING… this is total pie in the sky haha!! But I can I dream. please let me know your thoughts…. Fully agree. Frankly, ALL Queen albums would benefit from brand new mixes, especially Innuendo which I've always found too flat, no doubt because it was all digitally recorded and mixed to begin with. The 2011 CD remaster is an improvement over the original release, but it's still not as good as all the other albums sound. |
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Post by ted on Nov 10, 2022 12:40:10 GMT
Brian's Wig wrote: Frankly, ALL Queen albums would benefit from brand new mixes, especially Innuendo which I've always found too flat, no doubt because it was all digitally recorded and mixed to begin with. The 2011 CD remaster is an improvement over the original release, but it's still not as good as all the other albums sound.
In particular, I would like to hear the debut album Queen with a new mix. Mad the Swine apparently was recorded during the sessions for the album in 1972 but was left off until 1991 when it first appeared as a bonus track. It's been mentioned elsewhere how different the song sounds to the rest of the album which I believe was due to it having been given an (at the time) 'modern mix'. So I'm intrigued by the prospect of how different the other songs could sound if remixed, as Queen has been described as the most dated sounding album in their catalogue.
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Post by mikusguitarius on Nov 10, 2022 21:51:06 GMT
Brian's Wig: I do agree that some songs on Innuendo sound flat, but I don't think that it's the fault of being recorded and mixed digitally though. Plenty of 80s albums with 'DDD' on the back sleeve of the CD sound amazing!! For example, Brothers In Arms has so much clarity and depth.
Ted: Yes I agree too.... Queen and Queen II would both sound great. The Hollywood Records remix of Liar (once you ignore the silly effects in the first 30 seconds) is a taste of what could be!!
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Post by Lord Fickle on Nov 10, 2022 23:31:31 GMT
Brian's Wig: I do agree that some songs on Innuendo sound flat, but I don't think that it's the fault of being recorded and mixed digitally though. Plenty of 80s albums with 'DDD' on the back sleeve of the CD sound amazing!! For example, Brothers In Arms has so much clarity and depth. I kind of disagree about Brothers In Arms. Yes, it's got clarity, but it also sounds rather clinical and sterile to me. The quieter tracks sound great, but the rockier tracks could have done with beefier drums, in my opinion. I think it was the drums that sounded most different on those early digital albums. Rush's Moving Pictures was another example where the drums were a little thin. |
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Post by mikusguitarius on Nov 11, 2022 0:03:42 GMT
Brian's Wig: I do agree that some songs on Innuendo sound flat, but I don't think that it's the fault of being recorded and mixed digitally though. Plenty of 80s albums with 'DDD' on the back sleeve of the CD sound amazing!! For example, Brothers In Arms has so much clarity and depth. I kind of disagree about Brothers In Arms. Yes, it's got clarity, but it also sounds rather clinical and sterile to me. The quieter tracks sound great, but the rockier tracks could have done with beefier drums, in my opinion. I think it was the drums that sounded most different on those early digital albums. Rush's Moving Pictures was another example where the drums were a little thin. I was going to mention Moving Pictures… but there’s some ambiguity (still!) whether it was recorded in analogue and mixed in digital or if it was digital all the way. Anyhow, The Miracle (album) largely sounds amazing but I agree Innuendo (album) largely sounds a little flat. Both are digitally recorded I believe. I think the medium that albums were recorded in is largely a red herring. A well recorded and mixed album from the 80s done in the digital domain will still sound better than an album recorded entirely in the analogue domain but recorded and mixed badly…. |
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Post by pg on Nov 11, 2022 21:37:11 GMT
Yes, OP, I would support the issuing of a surround mix of any and all Queen material.
I wouldn't previously have considered this a radical position.
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Post by ThomasQuinn on Nov 22, 2022 18:13:40 GMT
Brian's Wig: I do agree that some songs on Innuendo sound flat, but I don't think that it's the fault of being recorded and mixed digitally though. Plenty of 80s albums with 'DDD' on the back sleeve of the CD sound amazing!! For example, Brothers In Arms has so much clarity and depth. I kind of disagree about Brothers In Arms. Yes, it's got clarity, but it also sounds rather clinical and sterile to me. The quieter tracks sound great, but the rockier tracks could have done with beefier drums, in my opinion. I think it was the drums that sounded most different on those early digital albums. Rush's Moving Pictures was another example where the drums were a little thin. Honestly, I think the drums sounded quite thin on many analog '80s recordings too. Kind of a fashion thing that was eventually replaced by a fashion for thicker, harder-hitting drums. I personally think that, looking back on the early 21st century from 50 or so years in the future, a lot of music from our time will be considered overly boomy. |
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Post by mikusguitarius on Nov 22, 2022 18:59:16 GMT
I kind of disagree about Brothers In Arms. Yes, it's got clarity, but it also sounds rather clinical and sterile to me. The quieter tracks sound great, but the rockier tracks could have done with beefier drums, in my opinion. I think it was the drums that sounded most different on those early digital albums. Rush's Moving Pictures was another example where the drums were a little thin. Honestly, I think the drums sounded quite thin on many analog '80s recordings too. Kind of a fashion thing that was eventually replaced by a fashion for thicker, harder-hitting drums. I personally think that, looking back on the early 21st century from 50 or so years in the future, a lot of music from our time will be considered overly boomy. Yeah totally agree with your points. The latest fashion is for vocals to be bone dry whereas in the 80s they were awash with reverb. Either way, the recording medium - digital or analogue - seems to make little difference. |
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