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Post by Lord Fickle on Mar 23, 2022 11:34:58 GMT
Moved to existing thread. We don't need two threads running on this. š
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Post by Lord Fickle on Mar 23, 2022 11:46:11 GMT
What's the betting TMLWKY will be the 'unreleased' track, forgetting it was on Made In Heaven? š
Forgive my cynicism. I've said all this before, but for me, The Miracle is a mediocre album (compared to their best), and I just can't get excited about this until there's definitely something confirmed to get excited about.
If they were going to release some of the demos, would these not require some studio work, possibly involving Brian and Roger, and if this was the case, would they have managed to keep it secret up to now?
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Post by qdas1980 on Mar 23, 2022 12:45:24 GMT
Why do I have a feeling that it will be just like a BM box set..........all the b-sides, extended versions, and nothing new(demos/retakes/etc)....
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Post by sam99 on Mar 23, 2022 14:43:18 GMT
www.queenonline.com/news/22-3-89This is a very cryptic meessage on Queenonline and theri social media platforms, throught provoking could we finally see this boxset, mentioned a couple of years ago but obviously shelved. We are certainly overdue a Queen release as Bohemian Rhapsody sountrack was the last one, back in 2018. Not everyone's cup of tea, personally I have fond memories of this album when it was released, all those years back and this sounds intersting, to me at least.
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Post by BrĘŠsźi on Mar 23, 2022 15:14:00 GMT
***new thread merged into main thread***
there's already a thread for this subject, please refrain from creating duplicates - all it serves to do is dilute a conversation.
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Post by mikusguitarius on Mar 23, 2022 15:14:47 GMT
What's the betting TMLWKY will be the 'unreleased' track, forgetting it was on Made In Heaven? š Forgive my cynicism. I've said all this before, but for me, The Miracle is a mediocre album (compared to their best), and I just can't get excited about this until there's definitely something confirmed to get excited about. If they were going to release some of the demos, would these not require some studio work, possibly involving Brian and Roger, and if this was the case, would they have managed to keep it secret up to now? My understanding - and I'm happy to be corrected here - is that the MiH version simply took the vocal, with the backing being newly recorded. In other words THIS Miracles sessions version could be 'unreleased' if it has the ORIGINAL backing???
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Post by georg on Mar 23, 2022 15:28:09 GMT
What's the betting TMLWKY will be the 'unreleased' track, forgetting it was on Made In Heaven? š Forgive my cynicism. I've said all this before, but for me, The Miracle is a mediocre album (compared to their best), and I just can't get excited about this until there's definitely something confirmed to get excited about. If they were going to release some of the demos, would these not require some studio work, possibly involving Brian and Roger, and if this was the case, would they have managed to keep it secret up to now? My understanding - and I'm happy to be corrected here - is that the MiH version simply took the vocal, with the backing being newly recorded. Ā In other words THIS Miracles sessions version could be 'unreleased' if it has the ORIGINAL backing??? Nope, the version that is on Made In Heaven is the version intended for The Miracle. Thereās a promo cassette for Capitol of all the songs in order, and Too Much Love is the exact same version as was eventually released. That being said, thereās that two minute alternative vocal/performance that ended up on another promo cassette, and is the well-known ādemoā version. If they were to reinstate the song for this alleged box set, I would hope they would use a polished alternate take, butā¦ I aināt got no hope thatāll happen.
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Post by JackG on Mar 23, 2022 15:49:32 GMT
www.queenonline.com/news/22-3-89This is a very cryptic meessage on Queenonline and theri social media platforms, throught provoking could we finally see this boxset, mentioned a couple of years ago but obviously shelved. We are certainly overdue a Queen release as Bohemian Rhapsody sountrack was the last one, back in 2018. Not everyone's cup of tea, personally I have fond memories of this album when it was released, all those years back and this sounds intersting, to me at least. Did anyone notice that the image is called "Miracle_tease.jpg" ?
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Post by rogercz on Mar 23, 2022 16:29:46 GMT
www.queenonline.com/news/22-3-89This is a very cryptic meessage on Queenonline and theri social media platforms, throught provoking could we finally see this boxset, mentioned a couple of years ago but obviously shelved. We are certainly overdue a Queen release as Bohemian Rhapsody sountrack was the last one, back in 2018. Not everyone's cup of tea, personally I have fond memories of this album when it was released, all those years back and this sounds intersting, to me at least. Did anyone notice that the image is called "Miracle_tease.jpg" ? That's something that I already wanted to point at, but you were faster! Anyway, I like The Miracle for some kind of strange feeling...it flows well for me, it works coherently which is something that I also like on Hot Space. It doesn't contain many standalone-hits, the sound is sometimes too dated because of using machines not real instruments,... But I listen to it more frequently than in most of the points better albums countin ANATO or TG. Similar to RT's Outsider for me, not his best but not fragmented piece of work.
BM and RT probalbly aren't concerned because it's an old stuff and they are enjoyng they everyday life and aren't bothering wih things that might please fans.
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Post by rylan2020 on Mar 23, 2022 19:30:58 GMT
Was their any cryptic stuff like this posted for the NOTW boxset?
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Post by dysan on Mar 23, 2022 20:56:23 GMT
Was their any cryptic stuff like this posted for the NOTW boxset? They toured for about 4 months in the lead up with a freakin' massive robot.
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Post by Frank on Mar 23, 2022 21:20:19 GMT
www.queenonline.com/news/22-3-89This is a very cryptic meessage on Queenonline and theri social media platforms, throught provoking could we finally see this boxset, mentioned a couple of years ago but obviously shelved. We are certainly overdue a Queen release as Bohemian Rhapsody sountrack was the last one, back in 2018. Not everyone's cup of tea, personally I have fond memories of this album when it was released, all those years back and this sounds intersting, to me at least. Did anyone notice that the image is called "Miracle_tease.jpg" ? Just wait. The tease will be for a bonus episode of Queen The Greatest. I'm fairly certain the album wasn't given its own feature.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Mar 23, 2022 21:32:16 GMT
Was their any cryptic stuff like this posted for the NOTW boxset? They toured for about 4 months in the lead up with a freakin' massive robot. ... and then dropped the most interesting songs from NOTW anyway.
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Post by Frank on Mar 23, 2022 21:51:32 GMT
They toured for about 4 months in the lead up with a freakin' massive robot. ... and then dropped the most interesting songs from NOTW anyway. What a disappointment too. Both It's Late and Spread Your Wings were dropped yet Get Down Make Love survived longer.
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Post by sam99 on Mar 23, 2022 22:15:39 GMT
Moved to existing thread. We don't need two threads running on this. š Sorry,I was wondering where it went too thanks very much, good to know I havenāt lost my marbles
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Post by sam99 on Mar 23, 2022 22:20:24 GMT
www.queenonline.com/news/22-3-89This is a very cryptic meessage on Queenonline and theri social media platforms, throught provoking could we finally see this boxset, mentioned a couple of years ago but obviously shelved. We are certainly overdue a Queen release as Bohemian Rhapsody sountrack was the last one, back in 2018. Not everyone's cup of tea, personally I have fond memories of this album when it was released, all those years back and this sounds intersting, to me at least. Did anyone notice that the image is called "Miracle_tease.jpg" ? Didnāt notice that, well spotted thatās a positive sign, itās my hope that thereās a remix a bit like Mr Bad Guy
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Post by Golden Salmon on Mar 23, 2022 22:22:02 GMT
Did anyone notice that the image is called "Miracle_tease.jpg" ? Well spotted! Then again, we have been teased so much and so regularly that I have become very, very skeptical towards these hints.
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Post by mikusguitarius on Mar 23, 2022 22:58:20 GMT
My understanding - and I'm happy to be corrected here - is that the MiH version simply took the vocal, with the backing being newly recorded. In other words THIS Miracles sessions version could be 'unreleased' if it has the ORIGINAL backing??? Nope, the version that is on Made In Heaven is the version intended for The Miracle. Thereās a promo cassette for Capitol of all the songs in order, and Too Much Love is the exact same version as was eventually released. That being said, thereās that two minute alternative vocal/performance that ended up on another promo cassette, and is the well-known ādemoā version. If they were to reinstate the song for this alleged box set, I would hope they would use a polished alternate take, butā¦ I aināt got no hope thatāll happen. Thanks for this. I'm very happy to be corrected :-)
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Post by Lord Fickle on Mar 24, 2022 0:42:08 GMT
Moved to existing thread. We don't need two threads running on this. š Sorry,I was wondering where it went too thanks very much, good to know I havenāt lost my marblesĀ No worries. š
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Post by rylan2020 on Mar 24, 2022 2:40:15 GMT
The NOTW boxset was good I donāt see how QPL would want to give us a subpar product. Unlike Brianās boxset this would have a lot more people dictating how it would be put together. Roger being one of them when he released the lot it included everything even some of the smallest things he ever released. I see no reason why QPL wonāt do that here knowing the Miracle had a lot of outtakes and cuts.
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Post by cmi on Mar 24, 2022 4:24:07 GMT
The NOTW boxset was good I donāt see how QPL would want to give us a subpar product. Unlike Brianās boxset this would have a lot more people dictating how it would be put together. Roger being one of them when he released the lot it included everything even some of the smallest things he ever released. I see no reason why QPL wonāt do that here knowing the Miracle had a lot of outtakes and cuts. The Lot included 5 unreleased tracks/outtakes (1988 session + extended version), 2 of them were badly edited, btw. For 12 CD disc set it's almost nothing. The Lot is the weakest production quality release. I don't think it's correct to equate unreleased outtakes to digital debut of well-known single tracks. Especially when The Miracle era extras were all released on CD straight away.
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Post by Dimitris on Mar 24, 2022 6:44:16 GMT
If it has Face it alone takes 3-4 which are more completed than the leaked demo in 2011, or any better take along with a new life is born, IGWAFO, affairs, it will be very good.
On the other hand on NOTW boxset they didn't include Silver salmon and in the last time white Christmas was moved out from the DVD doc.
So low expectations.
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Post by rogercz on Mar 24, 2022 9:32:22 GMT
I alway thought that they don't want to release demos, because they could finish it sometime in the future like for MIH or Queen Forever, but nowadays I guess they simply doesn't want to release "weak" performances or bad sound quality recodrings... strangely they don't mind some awful remixes (GHIII is something I am talking about..)
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Post by antonio on Mar 24, 2022 13:11:53 GMT
Mix your feelings with News Of The World Box Set + Brian May Back To The Light re-release...This gonna be how you will feel they they announce the details of this new box.
After so many times (and years) suffering QPL...Do you really have any hope?
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Post by velizar on Mar 24, 2022 14:01:38 GMT
Miracle was the album that introduced me to Queen. Despite having all leaked demos, I'd love to see the box's contents. š
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Post by georg on Mar 24, 2022 14:48:05 GMT
Genuine question: people* seem upset that the News of the World box was disappointing. Apart from the lack of a live show (which, Iāll say, was profoundly stupid) and the barebones liner notes (par for the course), were the contents that bad? I mean, an entire disc of alternate takes and mixes, where everything was different enough to be a unique listen, is nothing to sneeze at, and the third disc was kind of a dumping ground of miscellania, but if each album had been given the same treatment (except with a live show and liner notes, thankyouverymuch) I would not be disappointed.
I mean, we should be used to the fact that QPL doesnāt give fans what they want, but getting a whole disc of alternates is pretty generous, even for them.
*I canāt remember if it was here or on another, non-Queen forum, but recently I saw people bitching about it.
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Post by rogercz on Mar 24, 2022 17:02:26 GMT
Genuine question: people* seem upset that the News of the World box was disappointing. Apart from the lack of a live show (which, Iāll say, was profoundly stupid) and the barebones liner notes (par for the course), were the contents that bad? I mean, an entire disc of alternate takes and mixes, where everything was different enough to be a unique listen, is nothing to sneeze at, and the third disc was kind of a dumping ground of miscellania, but if each album had been given the same treatment (except with a live show and liner notes, thankyouverymuch) I would not be disappointed. I mean, we should be used to the fact that QPL doesnāt give fans what they want, but getting a whole disc of alternates is pretty generous, even for them. *I canāt remember if it was here or on another, non-Queen forum, but recently I saw people bitching about it. I like it, but with just a little bit of effort it could have include a full disk of instrumentals, full disc of live versions, full disc of demos and not just bits and pieces. But overall, I was quite happy with it.
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Post by qdas1980 on Mar 24, 2022 17:13:23 GMT
Minimal for maximum profit, low expectations..........
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Post by macduff77 on Mar 24, 2022 17:30:27 GMT
I really enjoyed that box set and was hoping for similar treatments on other albums. Agreed that we could have had a nicer liner notes and maybe a live concert would have been a nice addition, but on the whole, it was worth the money for me. I spun the alternate album disc for quite awhile after release. Genuine question: people* seem upset that the News of the World box was disappointing. Apart from the lack of a live show (which, Iāll say, was profoundly stupid) and the barebones liner notes (par for the course), were the contents that bad? I mean, an entire disc of alternate takes and mixes, where everything was different enough to be a unique listen, is nothing to sneeze at, and the third disc was kind of a dumping ground of miscellania, but if each album had been given the same treatment (except with a live show and liner notes, thankyouverymuch) I would not be disappointed. I mean, we should be used to the fact that QPL doesnāt give fans what they want, but getting a whole disc of alternates is pretty generous, even for them. *I canāt remember if it was here or on another, non-Queen forum, but recently I saw people bitching about it.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Mar 24, 2022 17:59:30 GMT
Genuine question: people* seem upset that the News of the World box was disappointing. Apart from the lack of a live show (which, Iāll say, was profoundly stupid) and the barebones liner notes (par for the course), were the contents that bad? I mean, an entire disc of alternate takes and mixes, where everything was different enough to be a unique listen, is nothing to sneeze at, and the third disc was kind of a dumping ground of miscellania, but if each album had been given the same treatment (except with a live show and liner notes, thankyouverymuch) I would not be disappointed. I mean, we should be used to the fact that QPL doesnāt give fans what they want, but getting a whole disc of alternates is pretty generous, even for them. *I canāt remember if it was here or on another, non-Queen forum, but recently I saw people bitching about it. I was pleased enough with the alternate takes disc, but it was basically one CD of interest, which cost about Ā£100 - probably the most expensive CD I've ever bought! As I said at the time when the NOTW box was released, most people, I believe, want the audio / video content without all the superfluous tat that simply bumps up the price, and is probably looked at once. I'd be quite happy for them to release some of the archive concerts as bog standard CDs with no frills.
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