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Post by scallyuk on Sept 4, 2023 13:03:20 GMT
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pg
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Post by pg on Sept 4, 2023 16:07:39 GMT
Acknowledged.
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BrƎИsꓘi
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Sept 4, 2023 16:15:01 GMT
even at five bedrooms (these days) the building is still the same overall size/footprint, so it's a big old place. the average price of an 3-bed semi in the UK at that time was £21,966 with the comparable London price being £55,000 Factor in Freddies's GL purchase at £500,000 I'd say that's a pretty big property compared to average 3-bed semi in London! |
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Post by pg on Sept 4, 2023 16:32:21 GMT
I'm not disputing its size! Somebody said that "rooms could have been mothballed", and I'm trying to illustrate that wasn't really an option.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Sept 4, 2023 16:57:45 GMT
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Post by pg on Sept 4, 2023 18:47:40 GMT
A lot of the items have had new bids in the last couple of days too, it's going to be interesting to see what they open the bidding at on the first 59 (assuming there are unpublicised bids pending)
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Post by Mercury Roadrunner on Sept 5, 2023 21:58:19 GMT
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Post by manymilesaway on Sept 5, 2023 23:36:44 GMT
"Freddie's most intimate personal effects, and writings that were part of what we shared for so many years, will go under the hammer, to be knocked down to the highest bidder and dispersed forever. I can't look. To us, his closest friends and family, it's too sad. Bri." Brian's finally commented on the auction. (source) http://instagram.com/p/Cw0_wzSMJzZ |
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Post by Lord Fickle on Sept 5, 2023 23:41:52 GMT
"Freddie's most intimate personal effects, and writings that were part of what we shared for so many years, will go under the hammer, to be knocked down to the highest bidder and dispersed forever. I can't look. To us, his closest friends and family, it's too sad. Bri." Brian's finally commented on the auction. I can see where he's coming from, but where did he say that? Please provide a source link. |
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Post by georg on Sept 5, 2023 23:52:35 GMT
"Freddie's most intimate personal effects, and writings that were part of what we shared for so many years, will go under the hammer, to be knocked down to the highest bidder and dispersed forever. I can't look. To us, his closest friends and family, it's too sad. Bri." Brian's finally commented on the auction. I can see where he's coming from, but where did he say that? Please provide a source link. Instagram: http://instagram.com/p/Cw0_wzSMJzZ |
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Post by DoubleU on Sept 6, 2023 7:26:45 GMT
I can understand his point. They havn't seen all this for many years either but they're strong connected with it. But with Freddie's will it all is owned by Mary and at least she can do with it what she wants.
At least we can make some screenshots from the lyrc sheets. For example the one of "We Are The Champions" ist fascinating.
Kind regards
W.
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Post by pg on Sept 6, 2023 8:19:53 GMT
I think the majority of the auction is outside the description "intimate writings" - I wouldn't disagree that the Queen related writing would be better as part of a wider Queen archive, but it's not like anybody's raiding Freddie's sock drawer - and what would Brian prefer be done with it all? Mary is as entitled to plan her estate by selling off all this stuff in the most profitable way possible, as Brian is to plan HIS estate by selling off his publishing for a massive chunk of cash.
As for the stuff that is definitely Queen stuff (lyrics, set lists, etc) - even if it was all kept together... Then what? Brian's not going to live forever either, and there's no Queen Museum...
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Post by Lord Fickle on Sept 6, 2023 8:34:17 GMT
I think the majority of the auction is outside the description "intimate writings" - I wouldn't disagree that the Queen related writing would be better as part of a wider Queen archive, but it's not like anybody's raiding Freddie's sock drawer - and what would Brian prefer be done with it all? Mary is as entitled to plan her estate by selling off all this stuff in the most profitable way possible, as Brian is to plan HIS estate by selling off his publishing for a massive chunk of cash.That's very true. And I guess Mary will get 25% of that too? |
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Sept 6, 2023 9:34:13 GMT
"Freddie's most intimate personal effects, and writings that were part of what we shared for so many years, will go under the hammer, to be knocked down to the highest bidder and dispersed forever. I can't look. To us, his closest friends and family, it's too sad. Bri." Brian's finally commented on the auction. (source) http://instagram.com/p/Cw0_wzSMJzZ I think the majority of the auction is outside the description "intimate writings" - I wouldn't disagree that the Queen related writing would be better as part of a wider Queen archive, but it's not like anybody's raiding Freddie's sock drawer - and what would Brian prefer be done with it all? Mary is as entitled to plan her estate by selling off all this stuff in the most profitable way possible, as Brian is to plan HIS estate by selling off his publishing for a massive chunk of cash. As for the stuff that is definitely Queen stuff (lyrics, set lists, etc) - even if it was all kept together... Then what? Brian's not going to live forever either, and there's no Queen Museum... this ^ Brian saying "it's too sad" is one thing, but QPL (incl Brian) had enough time - 30+ yrs to "do something" about this. Only themselves to blame. one fact remains, had they approached her at any time in the previous 30yrs, the cost of rehoming the items would have been significantly less than it will be today. |
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Post by scandal on Sept 6, 2023 9:35:35 GMT
Some interviewer needs to ask Brian why Queen Productions didn't negotiate a buy out of this collection. As the attendance of the exhibition has shown, the potential for a Queen Museum is there and the buy out would pay out for itself in the long term.
The amount of items from Freddie alone is staggering and combined with holdings of Brian and Roger the exhibition could be kept fresh for years on by rotating the items on display.
It could have been a landmark for London but it is just a big wasted opportunity probably due to the egos involved cause QPL has all the money needed.
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Post by Dimitris on Sept 6, 2023 12:25:28 GMT
I dont think that Queen productions didn't want to get some stuff over the years.
If my memory serves me well, back in 2005-06 while Freddie best of was about to released, Brian did a comment on his soapbox. He said something that he and Roger are not involved. Any decisions about Freddie solo work is on his heirs.
Probably between 2005-2007 something broke between Brian and Mary.
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Post by pg on Sept 6, 2023 13:09:21 GMT
Some interviewer needs to ask Brian why Queen Productions didn't negotiate a buy out of this collection. As the attendance of the exhibition has shown, the potential for a Queen Museum is there and the buy out would pay out for itself in the long term. The amount of items from Freddie alone is staggering and combined with holdings of Brian and Roger the exhibition could be kept fresh for years on by rotating the items on display. It could have been a landmark for London but it is just a big wasted opportunity probably due to the egos involved cause QPL has all the money needed. If "QPL has all the money needed", why risk a commercial operation like that? They'd need - a prestige, accessible building in central London, which wouldn't be cheap, very good security (ditto), staff, insurance, etc, and the payback would be, effectively, the admission fees and the gift shop. Admission fees might cover staff and security, but the gift shop has got to cover everything else, plus an overall profit. That's a lot of merch, and if they're capable of selling that much merch, why not just make the pop up stores permanent, and complemented by the online shop? In short - no way does a Queen Museum make money, and no way will anyone make one just for the thrill of it.... |
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Post by pg on Sept 6, 2023 13:11:54 GMT
I dont think that Queen productions didn't want to get some stuff over the years. If my memory serves me well, back in 2005-06 while Freddie best of was about to released, Brian did a comment on his soapbox. He said something that he and Roger are not involved. Any decisions about Freddie solo work is on his heirs. Probably between 2005-2007 something broke between Brian and Mary. Roger's fan club letter back in about 93 says something like "for a number of reasons, including Brian's touring, we were not involved in "The Freddie Mercury Album"" - my suspicion has always been that the deal to use IWBTLY and MIH as Queen tracks included butting out of whatever was being relesed. |
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Post by pg on Sept 6, 2023 15:06:19 GMT
Thanks for this, I was wondering how to watch it. I see the hate for Mary continues in the chat, which seems a little odd, given that nobody would see this stuff if she wasn't selling it..... edit - it hasn't even started yet and I've closed the chat due to utter cretins.....  |
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Post by alibat on Sept 6, 2023 16:30:19 GMT
Cannot believe how much the Garden Lodge door has just sold for. Bonkers!
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Post by Lord Fickle on Sept 6, 2023 16:42:31 GMT
Wish I had the time to sit and watch it. Anyone seen anyone noteworthy in the 'audience'?
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Post by alibat on Sept 6, 2023 16:45:27 GMT
Wish I had the time to sit and watch it. Anyone seen anyone noteworthy in the 'audience'? Doing my admin from the day while having it on the background. Anyone notable I would think will bid by phone /proxy rather than bid in person |
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Post by Lord Fickle on Sept 6, 2023 16:45:55 GMT
Who are the people standing at the side?
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Post by Lord Fickle on Sept 6, 2023 16:46:52 GMT
Dammit, I can't watch it. I'll get hooked and won't move for the entire duration. 😄
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Post by Lord Fickle on Sept 6, 2023 16:52:17 GMT
They're only on Lot 10. It's going to take bloody ages!
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Post by pg on Sept 6, 2023 17:36:54 GMT
Who are the people standing at the side? Staff, liasing with the phone bidders |
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Post by pg on Sept 6, 2023 17:38:21 GMT
They're only on Lot 10. It's going to take bloody ages! Lot one taking 20 minutes was possibly unexpected |
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Sept 6, 2023 17:41:33 GMT
that Lalique was a nice sale - £38,000
i found a similar for sale
1919 René Lalique, Vase Perruches Electric Blue Glass with White Patina
£26,126 Sale Price
so 50% mark-up? shows what a "name" is worth.
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Post by pg on Sept 6, 2023 17:51:15 GMT
If the bangle is going for this...
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Sept 6, 2023 17:53:42 GMT
it's going to clear £¼m easily
jeez - could go to £½m
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