Lord Fickle
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Post by Lord Fickle on May 8, 2021 23:28:35 GMT
I was always so disappointed that they "ruined" what would have been a very good version of It's Late with that stupid interjection from GDML. I've just cut that part out (as best I could) If you'd like to hear it PM me. It's fine, thanks, I'm quite adept at audio editing. At one stage I even cut the original version into it to make it complete, but they both have a very different sound so it wasn't too good.
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Post by soundfreak1 on May 9, 2021 9:13:30 GMT
When you state above that many (BBC) recordings are based on the original tapes like "Queen 1" and "Sheer Heart Attack", are you inferring that they used the backing tracks from the album versions/recordings of those songs and just added new vocals and maybe some other embellishments to them for the BBC versions? I've always been under the impression that (with the exception of the previously mentioned June '73 BBC recording of KYA) all of the songs recorded for the BBC were completely recorded on the dates indicated on the releases (At The Beeb, On Air), i.e. Feb.5 '73, Dec.3 '73, etc. Ted Yes, in many cases you just hear variations of the original recordings. Brian May has also condfirmed it in several interviews like this one from Record Collector 262 in 2001:
"Essentially the BBC recordings were short cuts. We started off with backingtracks, which were already in progress for the album, and overdubbed the vocals - a guitar here and there, and other things. So what you are hearing is a mixture of stuff recorded at Trident Studios, and stuff recorded very hurriedly in the BBC studios. Time and facilities were tight, which dictated that we record the sessions in that way. Typically we would do one or two tracks live, but adopt this compromise for the others."
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Post by Lord Fickle on May 9, 2021 13:43:09 GMT
The Works is a horrible sounding album - certainly drum wise. All the crash cymbals sound like a China cymbal, the toms are indistinct with no body, and the snare sounds totally ‘ un-Roger’ like. A Kind of Magic as a whole just sounds far too, clean, clinical and soulless. Yes, the debut album clearly has a terrible drum sound but at least we know why - an inexperienced band, borrowed and rushed downtime in the studio, and the engineers/producer wanting a certain ‘of the time’ muffled drum sound (which didn’t suit the music). agreed. there's nothing about the sound of the LPs from Game - AKOM that can be called good. i'd say those albums are produced loud for loudness' sake or sound incredibly sterile. the warmness of I and Jazz far outweigh their individual "drum sound" shortfalls. can anyone say (for definite) whether Queen deployed room mics for the drums on I & Jazz, because the overall drum sound does sound as if the room mics weren't "on". I don't mind the sound of The Works. Yes, it's quite 80s, but Hammer To Fall and I Go Crazy were definitely harking back to the earlier "thicker" sound. My least favourites, sadly, and not to disrespect the man, were the David Richards produced albums from AKOM onwards, although, it has to be said that Made In Heaven is probably one of their best sounding albums of all. Those previous to that seemed to suffer from an awful drum sound on most tracks, with over reliance on sampled drums, and also Brian's guitar sounded much thinner on those later recordings.
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Post by ted on May 9, 2021 13:51:48 GMT
soundfreak1 wrote: Yes, in many cases you just hear variations of the original recordings. Brian May has also confirmed it in several interviews like this one from Record Collector 262 in 2001:
"Essentially the BBC recordings were short cuts. We started off with backing tracks, which were already in progress for the album, and overdubbed the vocals - a guitar here and there, and other things. So what you are hearing is a mixture of stuff recorded at Trident Studios, and stuff recorded very hurriedly in the BBC studios. Time and facilities were tight, which dictated that we record the sessions in that way. Typically we would do one or two tracks live, but adopt this compromise for the others."
Thanks for the clarifications. This is certainly news to me.
Ted
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Post by basch on Jun 1, 2021 19:02:16 GMT
2 Albuns; The best sound: A Day at the Races. The worst sound: Queen I. I totally agree with your choices.
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Post by basch on Jun 1, 2021 19:06:20 GMT
Best sounding songs: too many to mention Worst sounding songs: Rain Must Fall, Back Chat, and Pain Is So Close To Pleasure all sound very dated to me (they did then and still do).
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Post by georg on Jun 5, 2021 21:34:28 GMT
I’m going to upset a few people here for sure but for me the best-sounding Queen-related album is The Cosmos Rock. The drums have a beautiful, natural sound to them, and the whole thing just sounds so organic and full.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Jun 5, 2021 21:42:07 GMT
I’m going to upset a few people here for sure but for me the best-sounding Queen-related album is The Cosmos Rock. The drums have a beautiful, natural sound to them, and the whole thing just sounds so organic and full. No, I agree. It's not an album I play an awful lot, but there's certainly nothing wrong with the sound. At least it sounds like they were all there when it was recorded. I just wasn't keen on most of the songs.
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Post by primejiveusa on Jun 11, 2021 14:50:40 GMT
I’m going to upset a few people here for sure but for me the best-sounding Queen-related album is The Cosmos Rock. The drums have a beautiful, natural sound to them, and the whole thing just sounds so organic and full. It is a gorgeous sounding album.
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Post by primejiveusa on Jun 11, 2021 14:52:13 GMT
Worst sounding songs: Rain Must Fall I think Brian's guitar bits sound magnificent on this track.
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