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Post by vh on Sept 5, 2024 9:40:40 GMT
As much as I'd love to see "Queen" live again, they've had a hell of a 19 year run; a run that none of us could honestly have imagined in our wildest dreams and being the selfish person I am I'd rather they called an end now than risk the exertion of more touring causing another attack leaving Brian unable to create new music with that old Lady of his whose sound gives me so much joy. Exactly. Let's not forget how utterly exciting the 2005 tour with Paul Rodgers was - these guys said they were done over a decade earlier, and then they resurrected this thing. And we've since gotten nearly two decades of solid touring from them. They're in their mid-70s, and really don't owe anyone a thing, even recorded work. By comparison, Jimmy Page has been healthy for the last 20+ years, but the number of times he's been on a stage in that period can be counted on one hand. If this is where Brian and Roger hang it up, it'll be a retirement well-deserved. There are so many guys who have reached that point where most people would be glad to retire. There seems to be a bit of a focus on Brian’s health at the moment being the reason that Queen might/should stop touring. I’m very aware every case/person is different but Nicko Mcbrain (Iron Maiden drummer) suffered a stroke last year or the year before. A professional musician in his 70’s playing far more physically than Brian he was paralysed on one side for 12 weeks but was working again within six months having appeared to have made a full recovery and is now touring again. I don’t think we’ve seen the last of Queen as a touring band yet, and I definitely think they should think about recording an album with AL the guy has fronted their live tours since 2012. I don’t think Brian’s condition signals the end but it’s a timely reminder that time is limited in all sorts of ways and if you don’t make time you’ll never have time.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Sept 5, 2024 10:06:04 GMT
Exactly. Let's not forget how utterly exciting the 2005 tour with Paul Rodgers was - these guys said they were done over a decade earlier, and then they resurrected this thing. And we've since gotten nearly two decades of solid touring from them. They're in their mid-70s, and really don't owe anyone a thing, even recorded work. By comparison, Jimmy Page has been healthy for the last 20+ years, but the number of times he's been on a stage in that period can be counted on one hand. If this is where Brian and Roger hang it up, it'll be a retirement well-deserved. There are so many guys who have reached that point where most people would be glad to retire. There seems to be a bit of a focus on Brian’s health at the moment being the reason that Queen might/should stop touring. I’m very aware every case/person is different but Nicko Mcbrain (Iron Maiden drummer) suffered a stroke last year or the year before. A professional musician in his 70’s playing far more physically than Brian he was paralysed on one side for 12 weeks but was working again within six months having appeared to have made a full recovery and is now touring again.I don’t think we’ve seen the last of Queen as a touring band yet, and I definitely think they should think about recording an album with AL the guy has fronted their live tours since 2012. I don’t think Brian’s condition signals the end but it’s a timely reminder that time is limited in all sorts of ways and if you don’t make time you’ll never have time. I saw Iron Maiden at the O2 last year, and Nicko was still in recuperation from his stroke (which we didn't know about at the time). He definitely wasn't 100%, and apparently has said there are certain drum parts he just can't play now, but his recovery has been amazing.
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Post by Lplix on Sept 5, 2024 10:22:33 GMT
I hope he is better now. Isn't it time for them to stop? In my opinion, they have already provided for themselves and their loved ones until the end of their days. By the way, I noticed that the guitarist’s health attracts more attention in the media now, but the drummer seems to remain on the sidelines. I guess Roger has been luckier with his health, but Brian is far more active outside of Queen, so tends to be in the news more anyway. well, roger has had his problems too; he is practically deaf and his eyesight is not the best. Unfortunately Brian has always been a bit sickly ever since he had hepatitis in Japan (1975 I think). the important thing is that he gets well soon 👍
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Post by The Real Wizard on Sept 5, 2024 13:10:42 GMT
I guess Roger has been luckier with his health, but Brian is far more active outside of Queen, so tends to be in the news more anyway. well, roger has had his problems too; he is practically deaf and his eyesight is not the best. Unfortunately Brian has always been a bit sickly ever since he had hepatitis in Japan (1975 I think). the important thing is that he gets well soon 👍 His stomach ulcers go even further back than that.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Sept 5, 2024 13:12:23 GMT
I don’t think we’ve seen the last of Queen as a touring band yet, and I definitely think they should think about recording an album with AL the guy has fronted their live tours since 2012. I don’t think Brian’s condition signals the end but it’s a timely reminder that time is limited in all sorts of ways and if you don’t make time you’ll never have time. Indeed - well put. I can see him being like Jimmy Carter and doing things to help others well into his 90s. But touring is very hard on the body. He's 77, and he's now had a heart attack and a stroke, the former having three stents put into him. I wouldn't be surprised if he scales things back at this point.
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Post by vh on Sept 5, 2024 14:18:52 GMT
I don’t think we’ve seen the last of Queen as a touring band yet, and I definitely think they should think about recording an album with AL the guy has fronted their live tours since 2012. I don’t think Brian’s condition signals the end but it’s a timely reminder that time is limited in all sorts of ways and if you don’t make time you’ll never have time. Indeed - well put. I can see him being like Jimmy Carter and doing things to help others well into his 90s. But touring is very hard on the body. He's 77, and he's now had a heart attack and a stroke, the former having three stents put into him. I wouldn't be surprised if he scales things back at this point. I’m sure you’re right. I think they began scaling things down with the last two legs of the Rhapsody Tour, leaving longer gaps between legs and playing less dates.
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Post by ted on Sept 5, 2024 23:50:28 GMT
well, roger has had his problems too; he is practically deaf and his eyesight is not the best. Unfortunately Brian has always been a bit sickly ever since he had hepatitis in Japan (1975 I think). the important thing is that he gets well soon 👍 His stomach ulcers go even further back than that. I've read that apparently Brian developed an ulcer shortly after recovering from his hepatitis ailment which abruptly ended Queen's 1st N. American tour in 1974.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Sept 6, 2024 5:06:26 GMT
His stomach ulcers go even further back than that. I've read that apparently Brian developed an ulcer shortly after recovering from his hepatitis ailment which abruptly ended Queen's 1st N. American tour in 1974.
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Yep - but apparently he was getting ulcers long before then too.
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Post by Mr Mercury on Sept 8, 2024 21:20:55 GMT
I hope he is better now. Isn't it time for them to stop? In my opinion, they have already provided for themselves and their loved ones until the end of their days. This has been discussed a couple of times in other threads, but anyway: at this point, it's obvious to everyone that neither Brian nor Roger (and countless other equally successful rock stars from that era) need the money. They definitely won't live enough to spend all of that, and at least the first two generations of heirs should have very comfortable lives regardless of the lifestyle they choose. And if it's obvious for us staring from the outside, it most definitely is obvious for them as well, and I'm sure every once in a while each of them hears a mouthful from their families and close friends for working so hard past their 70s without even needing the cash. These guys do it because they really like it. Roger's most recent solo album and tour probably didn't make any meaningful cash for him, but he still had a few songs in him and probably missed the feeling of leading a band. While we often talk about how Queen, Paul McCartney, The Rolling Stones etc seem to be doing well at such an advanced age, we've got Ozzy and Steven Tyler on the other end of the spectrum. Aerosmith's decision to retire doesn't seem to have been easy, and Ozzy's struggle to be able to climb onto a stage at least one last time even if it's just for a few songs is remarkable and kinda heartbreaking. He doesn't need the money, but he needs to feel alive, and he clearly feels more alive on stage than sitting at home recording podcasts with Sharon and his kids. I'm sure Brian's got better medical care than all of us here and he certainly is intelligent enough to follow whatever advice he gets from his doctors, and if that means skipping all the long flights and hotels, so be it. But should he still desire to tour, then I really hope his health will allow him to do it - not only because I (and many others) still desire to see him one more time, but also because I think after all the joy he's brought to so many people and all the good he's been trying to do both as an astrophysicist and as an activist, he most certainly deserves to do whatever makes him happy. And drummers tend to be the ones who sit out on tours or have a reduced role, as they have the most physical jobs - Black Sabbath, Aerosmith, Genesis, U2, etc. I guess age is catching up with Roger, as he's been playing with extra drummers for over 10 years now, not to mention the slowed down songs (such as Stone Cold Crazy) or simplified ones (such as I'm In Love With My Car). Luckily it seems in his case, unlike Bill Ward's, it's more of a matter of not being as fit for such a physical role anymore rather than being actually ill. Another drummer who eventually did succumb to his condition was Blackberry Smoke's Brit Turner. He did have an extra player with him sitting in as a percussionist towards the end of his life to step in just in case he wasnt well enough to perform. He was a great player but not show off type though. When he got diagnosed with glioblastoma he tried to get as much help as he could. Im just glad that Brian got help right away and appears to be on the mend.
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Post by snakecharmer on Sept 9, 2024 20:00:20 GMT
I think that Queen as a live being will now come to a natural end due to Brian's recent health scare's , I mean the last thing that any of us want is for Brian to collapse on stage just to satisfy fan's wishes to see them one last time. There are lots of things to keep Brian & Roger as busy as they want to be. Hopefully they can both enjoy a quieter time now and spend some relaxing time with their families & let Sony take care of hopefully some worthwhile releases.
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Post by disco_mart on Sept 10, 2024 21:05:02 GMT
I think that Queen as a live being will now come to a natural end due to Brian's recent health scare's , I mean the last thing that any of us want is for Brian to collapse on stage just to satisfy fan's wishes to see them one last time. There are lots of things to keep Brian & Roger as busy as they want to be. Hopefully they can both enjoy a quieter time now and spend some relaxing time with their families & let Sony take care of hopefully some worthwhile releases. If this turns out to be the case, I'm glad I saw them in Hammersmith 11+ years ago before the karaoke singer took over full time.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Sept 11, 2024 3:05:28 GMT
I think that Queen as a live being will now come to a natural end due to Brian's recent health scare's , I mean the last thing that any of us want is for Brian to collapse on stage just to satisfy fan's wishes to see them one last time. There are lots of things to keep Brian & Roger as busy as they want to be. Hopefully they can both enjoy a quieter time now and spend some relaxing time with their families & let Sony take care of hopefully some worthwhile releases. If this turns out to be the case, I'm glad I saw them in Hammersmith 11+ years ago before the karaoke singer took over full time. Why the need to disparage Adam Lambert ? What makes him a karaoke singer in your eyes ? It's obviously okay not to like him for whatever reason, but is the name-calling necessary ?
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Post by snakecharmer on Sept 11, 2024 11:40:32 GMT
Please let's not turn this topic about Brian's health into yet another who likes or dislikes Adam Lambert session . Of course Freddie could never be replaced , he regularly tops polls of the greatest rock singer of all time and his song writing was amazing . But Adam has been able to give some fan's who never got to see [Freddie ,Brian ,John & Roger] a taste of Queen . I think it has already been mentioned that Brian's health was always a bit of a concern. When Queen were recording "Sheer Heart Attack" Brian went down with Hepatitis which put him in hospital & a tour had to be cancelled . Brian even feared that he might be replaced , but that was never going to happen ,indeed Brian continued writing in hospital. I did not know that Roger was nearly deaf is this true ? It must make it very difficult during concerts. Mind you I can remember that concerts in the 70's & 80' were so much louder than they are these days. My ears used to ring for a couple of days after going to concerts.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Sept 11, 2024 11:49:20 GMT
Yes, this thread is about Brian, who thankfully seems to be recovering from his health scare. Let's not go off in different directions on this one.
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Post by snakecharmer on Sept 11, 2024 20:00:27 GMT
Good news about Brian isn't it ? Let's hope that he takes things easy and he continues his recovery .
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