Queen I Box Set Announced - Pre-Release Discussion Only

Nope - this recording in the band's archives is the only known tape of the gig.

If Hangman (studio) is appearing on any subsequent release, logically it means the live version on THIS release is out of place....

There are digital download sites that provide stuff in lossless formats like FLAC. Whether this will be available from those sites, of course…

Sure sure. Im just saying that there is nothing wrong to proclaim that they "dont care". They clearly did not this time and anyone who agrees should have a right to say it without being judged and moralized against. 

Of couse rarely things are perfect, but they are several degrees of "not perfect". Miracle box was not perfect, but it was alright and certainly not awful. So was many other Queen related products lately. But none of them went as low on quality as the TNCD video. It is just whole new level of sinking low. There is a difference between "well, could be better" and "oh my god, I want to gouge my eyes out, what were they thinking??"

sorry, i don't quite see that.
Disney's 2024 Let It Be was a huge seller, and the Get Back docu-series netted Apple Corps Ltd £58.4million in 2022. Macca and Ringo and Lennon/Harrison's widows making £5m apiece. The Beatles Red & Blue "2023 reissued/reworked" compilations peaked at no5 and 6 respectively (USA) and in the UK both reissues matched their original (1970s) peak positions of no3 and no2.
That's not bad at all for a a reworking of 50-yr-old film of a band who'd been dead for as long as the film cans had been idle.

even as late as 2023, the Beatles managed a UK (no1) and US (no7) hit with a new single. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Queen haven't had a no1 single since the month after Freddie died, and even said "boo to a goose" at the USA top 10 since the same week! (CC was no3 - but only two weeks total in top 100 UK)

Genuine question: Have any of The Beatles remixes been pitch corrected?

To quote the Sotheby’s catalogue “amongst the various fragments is what appears to be a list of possible tracks bearing evidence of the voting process by which a final selection was made”. I’m pretty sure this manuscript was bought by QPL judging by what I can see is in the book accompanying the box set. Certainly implies there were songs left off the album- might just be MTS perhaps …

What makes you think it was "written and performed and maybe planned for Queen I"? All the evidence suggests it was simply written for early live performances and occasionally performed at some later gigs. It doesn't show up on studio track sheets or early track lists for the first album, it wasn't part of the De Lane Lea demos. Bootleg recordings of live performances reveal a rather rough track that didn't really develop much over time, suggesting that the band itself didn't rate it very highly (compare See What A Fool I've Been for a song they did keep developing live). The sole reason that there's so much interest in it among hardcore fans is that it's the only original song by the band that was performed live but, until now, never released in any form. Unless this unknown live recording from '76 reveals a spectacularly improved song from known versions, it'll remain what it always was despite the fan-borne hype - a pretty dull and forgettable song.

Tastes differ of course, you have every right to like the song. "It just didn't find the right place in the album and therefore wasn't recorded properly", however, is simply unfounded speculation. At this point in time, there is absolutely no evidence that it was ever even briefly considered for the album. The book with this new box set might change that, but until that time: no evidence at all.

I think it's quite curious that they were still occasionally playing it live right up to 1976, when they clearly had plenty of other material to work into a set by then. Was it just to make a few concerts 'special' for those that attended? It's strange that they were still playing a song live four or five years after it's conception, but never did a studio recording of it. At least one of them must have liked it for them to play it live.

Indeed, Thin Lizzy performed Are You Ready since 1976 but a studio version never appeared, although I think a rough demo did surface at some point.

I’ve never clocked anything and I don’t recall seeing any discourse online, but that comes with the disclaimer that this doesn’t mean that they haven’t.

Among Beatles fans I know, their takes on Giles Martin’s mixes are largely based on what version of the respective albums they grew up with. There a couple of his mixes that aren’t perfect (Taxman with the cowbell, For No-One with the overbearing kick drum, She Said She Said guitars being all over the place in the mix). From memory, he used a different vocal take for Come Together on Abbey Road (only really notable in the outro). I’ll take that over triggered drums…

Regarding all discussion about the video and whether or not Brian and Roger care about it: they've ALWAYS done videos they didn't like. While during most of their career they were very mindful of their sound, and that's it, really - even with Freddie and John in their line-up, they've recorded some crappy videos throughout their careers, and they don't even hide the fact that they hated some of them as well. You can see at least some band members visibly bored/embarrassed during some videos (such as Body Language), you can actually hear Roger say something like "the ending is the best part, because then it's over" about Calling All Girls (GVH2 audio commentary) etc, not to mention how many times they had to lip sync TV appearances and made it look obviously fake (ex: Freddie singing away from the mic) just to make a point.

I'm pretty sure they've always understood that their work was to write songs, record them and play them on stage, and everything else was just promotion for that work. They might've made some great videos every now and then, but that wasn't their goal when they started the band back in 1970, and that definitely doesn't seem to be what they want to be remembered for now in 2024, and that's ok. They're musicians, not youtubers.

There is something very intersting regarding Queen sales, in streams and digital downloads were and still is bigger than The Beatles ,Stones, Zeppelin and MJ etc.

While in physical sales The Beatles easily outsold Queen
However in Europe Queen are the band with the biggest sales , in UK are second and have the spot of albums with GH, even if we exclude the platinum sales that added to GH, Queen still keep the top on spot.

In USA Beatles top as a band Queen are way behind them, but in the last 15 years they managed to return in top #2 Rhaspody OST, n#1 physical sales, #6 platinum , n#8 GH the last two between 2021-22.

Also GH hold record breaking in the top for back catalogue sales, last weels was back , is in top 40-50 in billboard top 200 for almost 2 years.

FIA and CC sold much better than UK and went top 10 in rock charts and download- streams.

General in streaming Queen outsold all.

Something more intersting in 1991 before Freddie's death, Queen had bigger sales with Innuendo and back catalogue than REM, GnR and were top seller of the year.

In 90s their sales were second behind OASIS.
Dont mention their enormous sales in video tapes, dvd wer in 80s up to 10s were huge.

The Beatles of course are bigger in almost everything but Queen have also their popularity which those days is bigger in the ages who are the main market.

P.S GH went n#2 in 2021 and still on charts, if record company had withdrawn this compilation ANATO, SHA (great chart run up to 1982 and re entries in 84-2007) and whatever other album could have been in public consciousness.
That's where Queen albums lose.

Also in US Queen are over in total sales than Bruce Springsteen, Aerosmith, Pink Floyd and I don't remember about Metallica. Before 20+ years they weren't.