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Post by davis_taylor.1984 on Oct 16, 2024 20:37:36 GMT
I must admit it was a little cringe the moment where he talked about the "karaoke" cd and the "live" cd... I mean, 8 or 9 tracks from Rainbow we already have... What about Golden Greens from Sep 1973? Why not that? What a pity!
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Post by The Real Wizard on Oct 16, 2024 20:38:37 GMT
Unboxing video goes live: My god, it's beautiful to watch an old and reflective Brian May do this 50+ years later. Just for one moment, let's not pick apart the little details and realize how lucky we are that we are able to watch this at all.
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Post by creepy on Oct 16, 2024 21:03:16 GMT
Brian, lovely man. He is a true gentleman, just like Deaky and Roger. Great unboxing.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Oct 16, 2024 21:06:55 GMT
I must admit it was a little cringe the moment where he talked about the "karaoke" cd and the "live" cd... I mean, 8 or 9 tracks from Rainbow we already have... What about Golden Greens from Sep 1973? Why not that? What a pity! We already have Golders Green, although I guess they could have tarted it up a bit, and I'm not certain if the 'On Air' version is complete.
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Post by leighburne on Oct 16, 2024 21:16:32 GMT
We already have Golders Green, although I guess they could have tarted it up a bit, and I'm not certain if the 'On Air' version is complete. I recall reading somewhere it’s complete as originally broadcast, but it isn’t the complete show. Entirely possible of course the broadcast edit is all that remains.
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Post by airpodsmax on Oct 16, 2024 21:19:19 GMT
I wonder if this is a mistake from Spotify. Keep yourself alive marked as mix when others as remastered 2011
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Oct 16, 2024 21:24:29 GMT
I must admit it was a little cringe the moment where he talked about the "karaoke" cd and the "live" cd... I mean, 8 or 9 tracks from Rainbow we already have... What about Golden Greens from Sep 1973? Why not that? What a pity! We already have Golders Green, although I guess they could have tarted it up a bit, and I'm not certain if the 'On Air' version is complete. well it is missing 80% of the RnR encores
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Post by NathanH on Oct 16, 2024 21:24:31 GMT
I wonder if this is a mistake from Spotify. Keep yourself alive marked as mix when others as remastered 2011 Keep Yourself Alive has had 2011 Mix for a long time, I can't remember a time it didn't. But they finally retitled Doing All Right a couple of weeks ago, it got renamed Doing Alright which I hated. That's definitely since the box set was announced...
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Post by airpodsmax on Oct 16, 2024 21:32:16 GMT
I wonder if this is a mistake from Spotify. Keep yourself alive marked as mix when others as remastered 2011 Keep Yourself Alive has had 2011 Mix for a long time, I can't remember a time it didn't. But they finally retitled Doing All Right a couple of weeks ago, it got renamed Doing Alright which I hated. That's definitely since the box set was announced...
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Post by NathanH on Oct 16, 2024 21:36:46 GMT
What about Golden Greens from Sep 1973? Why not that? What a pity! Well I've got to be honest, I've never been much a fan of the sound mixing of this recording. The vocal level sounds low in places and it sounds dry but I think this could be down to the fact it had quite a small audience who weren't near the stage but high up. It's a great high quality recording but I guess multitracks or whatever doesn't exist, so they're limited in what they can do to rectify the issues and improve the songs. Anyway, the Rainbow March '74 recordings sound brilliant (I rather them to the November ones too) plus Son And Daughter and Liar compared to Golders Green are superior renditions. If there was a soundboard recording of the Queen I Tour with Mott The Hoople, then yes I'd be disappointed it wasn't included but actually, it's quite nice that they have included live versions of every existing song from the first album. My biggest annoyance actually is they've kept the split solos from SAD and Keep Yourself Alive. It doesn't bother me so much with SAD but with KYA it does!
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Post by NathanH on Oct 16, 2024 21:41:58 GMT
Keep Yourself Alive has had 2011 Mix for a long time, I can't remember a time it didn't. But they finally retitled Doing All Right a couple of weeks ago, it got renamed Doing Alright which I hated. That's definitely since the box set was announced... And? I know it's called "Doing All Right - Remastered 2011" but until a couple of weeks ago it was listed as "Doing Alright - Remastered 2011". I've never understood why as the song was originally Doin' Alright and then Doing All Right. To my knowledge no official release ever had this hybrid title...
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Post by creepy on Oct 16, 2024 21:44:57 GMT
I know this question is difficult to answer precisely. However, how many concerts from 1974, 1973, 1972 and earlier were audio recorded? (beyond Rainbow and Golders Green). Is there information about it?
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Post by pokemaniacjunk on Oct 16, 2024 21:58:31 GMT
I know this question is difficult to answer precisely. However, how many concerts from 1974, 1973, 1972 and earlier were audio recorded? (beyond Rainbow and Golders Green). Is there information about it? going off of some of the info that I've seen on queenlive.ca a recording of the marquee gig from December 20th 1972 is in the band's archive and one of Mike Grose's friend's made a recording from the July 25th 1970 gig in Truro
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Post by merplot on Oct 16, 2024 22:39:00 GMT
Unboxing video goes live: My god, it's beautiful to watch an old and reflective Brian May do this 50+ years later. Just for one moment, let's not pick apart the little details and realize how lucky we are that we are able to watch this at all. He sounds very tired compared to the Miracle unboxing video from last year. I know he's slowing down but I hope he feels okay. And of course he saves even the plasticwrap Interesting to me that he didn't mention the 1970 Imperial College stuff, I think that would be extremely notable... unless he did and they removed it for some reason at that obvious jump cut. "And Deacy looking... very Deacy"
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Post by vh on Oct 16, 2024 23:08:39 GMT
I must admit it was a little cringe the moment where he talked about the "karaoke" cd and the "live" cd... I mean, 8 or 9 tracks from Rainbow we already have... What about Golden Greens from Sep 1973? Why not that? What a pity! Ok so what about the Imperial College track and the San Diego track. I’m far more excited by them than feeling the need to complain about the Rainbow tracks. I'm guessing that since you believe that the inclusion of the Rainbow tracks deserves pointing out as a negative, due to the fact that they were previously released, the inclusion of Golders Green would be exactly the same so would make you no happier
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Post by Lord Fickle on Oct 16, 2024 23:28:01 GMT
My god, it's beautiful to watch an old and reflective Brian May do this 50+ years later. Just for one moment, let's not pick apart the little details and realize how lucky we are that we are able to watch this at all. He sounds very tired compared to the Miracle unboxing video from last year. I know he's slowing down but I hope he feels okay. And of course he saves even the plasticwrap I felt he was reflective again, like with the TNCD single. Guessing the two were filmed at the same time. He's looking back over 50+ years, at how young they all were, and is just getting over a health scare. This must all be quite emotive for him.
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Post by thesirhc on Oct 16, 2024 23:59:08 GMT
I think Brian sounded great. He sounds like he really cares about the quality of the product. I'm intrigued by the Parental Advisory sticker.
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Post by fireplace on Oct 17, 2024 0:03:14 GMT
I'm intrigued by the Parental Advisory sticker. A woman expects a man to buckle down and to shovel.....
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Post by thesirhc on Oct 17, 2024 0:27:19 GMT
I'm intrigued by the Parental Advisory sticker. A woman expects a man to buckle down and to shovel..... I haven't seen the sticker on the album before. Maybe I wasn't looking.
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Post by fireplace on Oct 17, 2024 0:34:22 GMT
A woman expects a man to buckle down and to shovel..... I haven't seen the sticker on the album before. Maybe I wasn't looking. There hasn't been a sticker so far, I just assumed the guidelines for PA have changed but it could also be because of non-PC lyrics in Hangman, although I couldn't tell you what those are. Come to think of it, I've never seen a PA-sticker on Queen II either and that definitely has some non-PC lyrics.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Oct 17, 2024 2:28:11 GMT
What about Golden Greens from Sep 1973? Why not that? What a pity! Well I've got to be honest, I've never been much a fan of the sound mixing of this recording. The vocal level sounds low in places and it sounds dry but I think this could be down to the fact it had quite a small audience who weren't near the stage but high up. It's a great high quality recording but I guess multitracks or whatever doesn't exist, so they're limited in what they can do to rectify the issues and improve the songs. And the work has been done: queenchat.boards.net/thread/3975/golders-hippodrome-london-coldnebraskablue-improvementThe reason the vocal is buried is because it was only two channels of a quad broadcast. No longer. Compulsory listening.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Oct 17, 2024 3:01:11 GMT
I know this question is difficult to answer precisely. However, how many concerts from 1974, 1973, 1972 and earlier were audio recorded? (beyond Rainbow and Golders Green). Is there information about it? You mean professionally recorded ? London 8/23/70 (maybe, soon to be determined) New York 5/10/74 This is all we know for certain. But surely there's more.
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Post by mas2ermercury on Oct 17, 2024 4:06:04 GMT
Going back to the Golders Green recording, if there any content missing? Cause it sounds complete to me
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Post by manymilesaway on Oct 17, 2024 4:08:43 GMT
Going back to the Golders Green recording, if there any content missing? Cause it sounds complete to me It's complete but the official release is missing See What A Fool I've Been and all of the covers except Jailhouse Rock
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Post by A dude on Oct 17, 2024 6:40:34 GMT
Going back to the Golders Green recording, if there any content missing? Cause it sounds complete to me It's complete but the official release is missing See What A Fool I've Been and all of the covers except Jailhouse Rock I Don't understand QPL sometimes. What do they gain from not including SWAFIB? I understand the copyright from the covers but not including on of their own songs is strange.
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Post by manymilesaway on Oct 17, 2024 6:43:01 GMT
It's complete but the official release is missing See What A Fool I've Been and all of the covers except Jailhouse Rock I Don't understand QPL sometimes. What do they gain from not including SWAFIB? I understand the copyright from the covers but not including on of their own songs is strange. It's because that was around the time that Brian realized he subconsciously based SWAFIB on a riff from another song. Once he did, that artist got a writing credit for SWAFIB. They probably just didn't wanna deal with the royalties involved for that for the boxset.
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Post by Brian's Wig on Oct 17, 2024 7:48:02 GMT
I must admit it was a little cringe the moment where he talked about the "karaoke" cd and the "live" cd... I mean, 8 or 9 tracks from Rainbow we already have... What about Golden Greens from Sep 1973? Why not that? What a pity! The whole video looks like Brian "blag"ged his way through it (What? Listen, if you want better humour, you'll have to pay for it )
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Post by creepy on Oct 17, 2024 14:26:06 GMT
I think that, taking into account that Queen had planned to record Rainbow's performances in March and November 1974, it would be logical to think that they also recorded, at least the audio, of the previous concerts. With this, the band would try to polish and improve some aspects before professional recording.
I have been watching the concerts prior to these performances:
MARCH: * Cromer 3-23-74 * Aberystwyth 3-28-74 * Penzance 3-29-74 * Taunton 3-30-74 * London 3-31-74
NOVEMBER * Glasgow 11-8-74 * Southampton 11-14-74 * Swansea 11-15-74 * Birmingham 11-16-74 * Oxford 11-18-74 * London 11-19-74 * London 11-20-74
Do you think that the audios of the Penzance, Taunton or Birmingham and Oxford concerts exist in Queen's archives?
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Post by leighburne on Oct 17, 2024 15:09:05 GMT
They might exist on cassette for the band’s own personal edification. I sincerely doubt at that stage in the band’s career they were professionally recording gigs in releasable quality just for practice.
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Post by grumzy on Oct 17, 2024 15:46:11 GMT
I think that, taking into account that Queen had planned to record Rainbow's performances in March and November 1974, it would be logical to think that they also recorded, at least the audio, of the previous concerts. With this, the band would try to polish and improve some aspects before professional recording. I have been watching the concerts prior to these performances: MARCH: * Cromer 3-23-74 * Aberystwyth 3-28-74 * Penzance 3-29-74 * Taunton 3-30-74 * London 3-31-74 NOVEMBER * Glasgow 11-8-74 * Southampton 11-14-74 * Swansea 11-15-74 * Birmingham 11-16-74 * Oxford 11-18-74 * London 11-19-74 * London 11-20-74 Do you think that the audios of the Penzance, Taunton or Birmingham and Oxford concerts exist in Queen's archives? I have to assume that if they did make recordings, they would be from the soundboard. It was crazy expensive to do multi track recordings of the shows back then and we know they were working on a tiny budget at the time. I feel if there were more recordings out there from the shows you list, then some snippets would have surfaced by now.
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