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Post by angusscrimm on Oct 11, 2020 22:47:58 GMT
This one isn't for me, but each to their own. I've heard bits and pieces and, although I've tried liking Lambert, it's just not happening.
It has somehow reached UK#1, beating off stiff competition from Blackpink - probably helped by the bribe of 1000 extra signed copies (after most avid fans had already purchased) and making it cheap to download, and they're celebrating. Imagine there had been a new Beatles or Bowie album released....
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Post by florians on Oct 12, 2020 10:18:54 GMT
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Post by jair101 on Oct 12, 2020 20:04:23 GMT
This one isn't for me, but each to their own. I've heard bits and pieces and, although I've tried liking Lambert, it's just not happening. It has somehow reached UK#1, beating off stiff competition from Blackpink - probably helped by the bribe of 1000 extra signed copies (after most avid fans had already purchased) and making it cheap to download, and they're celebrating. Imagine there had been a new Beatles or Bowie album released.... I'm in the camp of loving Freddie's voice most of all, but appreciating what Adam brings and that he allows this music to be heard live with Brian and Roger. I'm really enjoying LATW, which isn't surprising because I also thoroughly enjoyed their concert in July. The album captures the wonderful atmosphere they create. I also think that a popular KPop band is very stiff competition in today's market. Blackpink was just ranked by Forbes as #3 in celebrity influence in Korea and they just beat out BTS as the highest charting K-pop group in history -- and BTS is a worldwide powerhouse. K-pop fans are well known for being extremely organized and engaged online, so I think you can take it that Blackpink did their best to galvanize their fanbase as well.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Oct 12, 2020 20:09:00 GMT
This one isn't for me, but each to their own. I've heard bits and pieces and, although I've tried liking Lambert, it's just not happening. It has somehow reached UK#1, beating off stiff competition from Blackpink - probably helped by the bribe of 1000 extra signed copies (after most avid fans had already purchased) and making it cheap to download, and they're celebrating. Imagine there had been a new Beatles or Bowie album released.... I'm in the camp of loving Freddie's voice most of all, but appreciating what Adam brings and that he allows this music to be heard live with Brian and Roger. I'm really enjoying LATW, which isn't surprising because I also thoroughly enjoyed their concert in July. The album captures the wonderful atmosphere they create. I also think that a popular KPop band is very stiff competition in today's market. Blackpink was just ranked by Forbes as #3 in celebrity influence in Korea and they just beat out BTS as the highest charting K-pop group in history -- and BTS is a worldwide powerhouse. K-pop fans are well known for being extremely organized and engaged online, so I think you can take it that Blackpink did their best to galvanize their fanbase as well. What is K-Pop anyway? 🙄
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Post by jair101 on Oct 12, 2020 20:54:29 GMT
I'm in the camp of loving Freddie's voice most of all, but appreciating what Adam brings and that he allows this music to be heard live with Brian and Roger. I'm really enjoying LATW, which isn't surprising because I also thoroughly enjoyed their concert in July. The album captures the wonderful atmosphere they create. I also think that a popular KPop band is very stiff competition in today's market. Blackpink was just ranked by Forbes as #3 in celebrity influence in Korea and they just beat out BTS as the highest charting K-pop group in history -- and BTS is a worldwide powerhouse. K-pop fans are well known for being extremely organized and engaged online, so I think you can take it that Blackpink did their best to galvanize their fanbase as well. What is K-Pop anyway? 🙄 Not to everyone's taste but very very popular Korean pop music. BTS for example is the fastest group since the Beatles to earn four number 1 albums in less than two years, and they are popular worldwide. The only reason I mention K-pop is that Blackpink was a formidable competitor.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Oct 12, 2020 20:57:05 GMT
I guess the clue was in the 'K'. Can't say I've knowingly heard any of it.
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Post by angusscrimm on Oct 12, 2020 22:27:28 GMT
This one isn't for me, but each to their own. I've heard bits and pieces and, although I've tried liking Lambert, it's just not happening. It has somehow reached UK#1, beating off stiff competition from Blackpink - probably helped by the bribe of 1000 extra signed copies (after most avid fans had already purchased) and making it cheap to download, and they're celebrating. Imagine there had been a new Beatles or Bowie album released.... I also think that a popular KPop band is very stiff competition in today's market. Blackpink was just ranked by Forbes as #3 in celebrity influence in Korea and they just beat out BTS as the highest charting K-pop group in history -- and BTS is a worldwide powerhouse. K-pop fans are well known for being extremely organized and engaged online, so I think you can take it that Blackpink did their best to galvanize their fanbase as well. I wasn't really suggesting otherwise - I know that they are a big deal (even if it's not my idea of a good listen).
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Post by jair101 on Oct 13, 2020 0:57:06 GMT
I also think that a popular KPop band is very stiff competition in today's market. Blackpink was just ranked by Forbes as #3 in celebrity influence in Korea and they just beat out BTS as the highest charting K-pop group in history -- and BTS is a worldwide powerhouse. K-pop fans are well known for being extremely organized and engaged online, so I think you can take it that Blackpink did their best to galvanize their fanbase as well. I wasn't really suggesting otherwise - I know that they are a big deal (even if it's not my idea of a good listen). I get you - K-pop isn't really my cup of tea, either.
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Post by Mr Mercury on Oct 17, 2020 21:22:33 GMT
I see the album only lasted one week at number one in the UK Album Charts. Its now down to number 6. Lets face it Queen in this incarnation just dont have the pulling power these days. I'm guessing the record buying and streaming public just arent interested in 2 guys over 70 and a 38 year old singer these days. Either that or the music world is so overcrowded with artists bringing out too many albums or songs at the same time.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Oct 17, 2020 21:25:50 GMT
I see the album only lasted one week at number one in the UK Album Charts. Its now down to number 6. Lets face it Queen in this incarnation just dont have the pulling power these days. I'm guessing the record buying and streaming public just arent interested in 2 guys over 70 and a 38 year old singer these days. Either that or the music world is so overcrowded with artists bringing out too many albums or songs at the same time. Could it be that the charts work differently nowadays? I've no idea how they calculate sales, but I believe downloads are now included, so maybe they had more CD sales than downloads, and it didn't hold them at No.1 for long?
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Post by Mr Mercury on Oct 17, 2020 21:50:35 GMT
I see the album only lasted one week at number one in the UK Album Charts. Its now down to number 6. Lets face it Queen in this incarnation just dont have the pulling power these days. I'm guessing the record buying and streaming public just arent interested in 2 guys over 70 and a 38 year old singer these days. Either that or the music world is so overcrowded with artists bringing out too many albums or songs at the same time. Could it be that the charts work differently nowadays? I've no idea how they calculate sales, but I believe downloads are now included, so maybe they had more CD sales than downloads, and it didn't hold them at No.1 for long? I believe that downloads and streaming do count although how they calculate how many downloads/streams counts as a single "sale" for want of a better expression, I dont know.
The Official UK Chart is calculated by sales as well as both music and video streams, with a variable streaming ratio depending on whether the user has a free or paid subscription. This means that 100 paid streams will equal one sale, as will 600 free streams.
For example, if your track gets 100,000 paid streams across the various online music & video platforms like Spotify, YouTube, Apple Music and other, they will be counted as 1,000 sales by the charts and included in your final sales total, whereas you'd need 600,000 free streams to generate that same number. Other sales include both paid digital downloads and physical releases.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Oct 17, 2020 22:14:51 GMT
Could it be that the charts work differently nowadays? I've no idea how they calculate sales, but I believe downloads are now included, so maybe they had more CD sales than downloads, and it didn't hold them at No.1 for long? I believe that downloads and streaming do count although how they calculate how many downloads/streams counts as a single "sale" for want of a better expression, I dont know.
The Official UK Chart is calculated by sales as well as both music and video streams, with a variable streaming ratio depending on whether the user has a free or paid subscription. This means that 100 paid streams will equal one sale, as will 600 free streams.
For example, if your track gets 100,000 paid streams across the various online music & video platforms like Spotify, YouTube, Apple Music and other, they will be counted as 1,000 sales by the charts and included in your final sales total, whereas you'd need 600,000 free streams to generate that same number. Other sales include both paid digital downloads and physical releases.
Who wants to be at No.1 forever anyway?
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Post by Mr Mercury on Oct 17, 2020 22:17:35 GMT
I believe that downloads and streaming do count although how they calculate how many downloads/streams counts as a single "sale" for want of a better expression, I dont know.
The Official UK Chart is calculated by sales as well as both music and video streams, with a variable streaming ratio depending on whether the user has a free or paid subscription. This means that 100 paid streams will equal one sale, as will 600 free streams.
For example, if your track gets 100,000 paid streams across the various online music & video platforms like Spotify, YouTube, Apple Music and other, they will be counted as 1,000 sales by the charts and included in your final sales total, whereas you'd need 600,000 free streams to generate that same number. Other sales include both paid digital downloads and physical releases.
Who wants to be at No.1 forever anyway? Ha Ha Ha Ha Nice one Simon
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Post by Lord Fickle on Oct 17, 2020 22:35:35 GMT
Who wants to be at No.1 forever anyway? Ha Ha Ha Ha Nice one Simon Thank you. I'm here all week.
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Post by Mr Mercury on Oct 17, 2020 22:49:55 GMT
Ha Ha Ha Ha Nice one Simon Thank you. I'm here all week. Im reliably informed that you do Weddings, Bar Mitzvah's and other forms of entertainment shows too mate (obviously not this year) lol
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Post by NathanH on Oct 18, 2020 8:22:42 GMT
I see the album only lasted one week at number one in the UK Album Charts. Its now down to number 6. Lets face it Queen in this incarnation just dont have the pulling power these days. I'm guessing the record buying and streaming public just arent interested in 2 guys over 70 and a 38 year old singer these days. Either that or the music world is so overcrowded with artists bringing out too many albums or songs at the same time. Do your research before you say comments like this. Queen have done better than most artists who are number one then drop in the second week. Only one of Queen's rivals in The Top 5 when they were number one in the Top 10 for example. These are albums since 24 July: The Killers --> 1 --> 7 Doves --> 1 --> 25 The Rolling Stones --> 1 --> 14 Biffy Clyro --> 1 --> 10 Ellie Goulding --> 1 --> 19 There were two or three other albums which were number one during this time but they didn't drop as much but these are artists who appeal to younger people so they are more likely to have more airplay on more stations therefore increasing likelihood of steaming. One of these artists was Taylor Swift and I hadn't even heard of the others!
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Post by Mr Mercury on Oct 18, 2020 21:41:51 GMT
I see the album only lasted one week at number one in the UK Album Charts. Its now down to number 6. Lets face it Queen in this incarnation just dont have the pulling power these days. I'm guessing the record buying and streaming public just arent interested in 2 guys over 70 and a 38 year old singer these days. Either that or the music world is so overcrowded with artists bringing out too many albums or songs at the same time. Do your research before you say comments like this. Queen have done better than most artists who are number one then drop in the second week. Only one of Queen's rivals in The Top 5 when they were number one in the Top 10 for example. These are albums since 24 July: The Killers --> 1 --> 7 Doves --> 1 --> 25 The Rolling Stones --> 1 --> 14 Biffy Clyro --> 1 --> 10 Ellie Goulding --> 1 --> 19 There were two or three other albums which were number one during this time but they didn't drop as much but these are artists who appeal to younger people so they are more likely to have more airplay on more stations therefore increasing likelihood of steaming. One of these artists was Taylor Swift and I hadn't even heard of the others! Hi Nathan, dont take this the wrong way, but I was referring to just Queen and the pulling power in the charts these days. And your info regarding The Killers, Doves etc just seems to highlight, to me at least, how hard it is for albums to remain at the top spot because it also seems that the record buying / streaming / downloading public dont have the attention span these days thanks to record companies releasing stuff by the next new big act week after week.
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Post by jacquesdaniels on Oct 19, 2020 10:01:09 GMT
I got this as a CD+BD set a week ago, and yesterday I finally bothered to check it out. In some ways, the live compilation works better as audio-only, because the song order doesn't feel logical, particularly the first two songs. But I don't really think it's nearly as bad as it could have been. I was glad to see Tear It Up have a longer version than what they did with Freddie at Wembley, and the inclusion of I Was Born To Love You and Love Kills make this an acceptable release in my book, even though you can't help being disappointed at it not being a double-cd with more rarely played gems included. The most boring bits are, for me at least, the drum and guitar solos, since we've heard them in almost that exact same form within the Q+PR sets, and despite the cheerleaders, the endlessly elongated Fat Bottomed Girls was kinda unnecessary. =P
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Post by georg on Oct 19, 2020 13:53:07 GMT
Do your research before you say comments like this. Queen have done better than most artists who are number one then drop in the second week. Only one of Queen's rivals in The Top 5 when they were number one in the Top 10 for example. These are albums since 24 July: The Killers --> 1 --> 7 Doves --> 1 --> 25 The Rolling Stones --> 1 --> 14 Biffy Clyro --> 1 --> 10 Ellie Goulding --> 1 --> 19 There were two or three other albums which were number one during this time but they didn't drop as much but these are artists who appeal to younger people so they are more likely to have more airplay on more stations therefore increasing likelihood of steaming. One of these artists was Taylor Swift and I hadn't even heard of the others! Hi Nathan, dont take this the wrong way, but I was referring to just Queen and the pulling power in the charts these days. And your info regarding The Killers, Doves etc just seems to highlight, to me at least, how hard it is for albums to remain at the top spot because it also seems that the record buying / streaming / downloading public dont have the attention span these days thanks to record companies releasing stuff by the next new big act week after week. But you just invalidated your own argument there – if the Rolling Stones and Paul freakin' McCartney can drop several chart positions after being at #1 for the first week, why is it a case of "har har, told ya so" when Q+AL do the same exact thing? The fact that Queen never hit #1 with a live album is pretty telling, but it's not that big of a deal – gone are the days when being at #1 for any sustained period of time ever happens. Look, I don't dig Q+AL all that much – just not my cup of tea – but they hit #1, and good for them. But unless COVID kills all live performances, Q+AL is not going away; Queen is cool again, especially in the States, more cool than they've been in my lifetime (the only thing approaching this kind of coolness was when I was a kid and Wayne's World was all over the place, and so was Bo Rhap), and I'm happy for that.
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Post by Mr Mercury on Oct 20, 2020 12:09:57 GMT
Hi Nathan, dont take this the wrong way, but I was referring to just Queen and the pulling power in the charts these days. And your info regarding The Killers, Doves etc just seems to highlight, to me at least, how hard it is for albums to remain at the top spot because it also seems that the record buying / streaming / downloading public dont have the attention span these days thanks to record companies releasing stuff by the next new big act week after week. But you just invalidated your own argument there – if the Rolling Stones and Paul freakin' McCartney can drop several chart positions after being at #1 for the first week, why is it a case of "har har, told ya so" when Q+AL do the same exact thing? The fact that Queen never hit #1 with a live album is pretty telling, but it's not that big of a deal – gone are the days when being at #1 for any sustained period of time ever happens. Look, I don't dig Q+AL all that much – just not my cup of tea – but they hit #1, and good for them. But unless COVID kills all live performances, Q+AL is not going away; Queen is cool again, especially in the States, more cool than they've been in my lifetime (the only thing approaching this kind of coolness was when I was a kid and Wayne's World was all over the place, and so was Bo Rhap), and I'm happy for that. Not really as my original point was solely about Queen + Adam Lambert and the pulling power chart wise. And no I wasnt having a go at the present line up either, although like you I too dont dig all that much as well. Im am glad that Brian and Roger are still out there doing there stuff and that people who never got to see the Freddie era Queen are at least getting to see the version, but it just doesnt excite me as they did back in the day.
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Post by DasTarD on Oct 20, 2020 13:30:59 GMT
I watched the bluray last week, they could have put way more stuff on that, more of the guitar solo, maybe some other songs. I felt it was wrong that they did not include the ending part of Bohemian Rhaphody on it, I know they didn't play that live on that day but since they were swapping locations, they could have added the ending from another show...
I was pleased with the quality of the material but they have added more effects on the vocals in a number of songs.
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Post by Raf on Oct 20, 2020 13:41:02 GMT
I guess the clue was in the 'K'. Can't say I've knowingly heard any of it. Netflix's "Explained" has an episode about it. It does a good job at explaining why all of a sudden teens all over the world are freaking out over korean boybands. Whenever you have 20 minutes to spare, it's pretty interesting. And I really do think it's remarkable that two old guys beat one of the big names of k-pop some 30 years after they lost their main star. If the QAL tour profit numbers weren't enough, I guess here's the final proof that the general public has accepted Queen back in the business.
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Post by chowder on Oct 26, 2020 15:26:49 GMT
Not that it matters, but I have been on the fence for years with regards to Q+AL. You Are The Champions did not do a thing for me, but this live album seems to have won me over as I really dig that album. Although it's been tough the first few listens, as I really struggled with Adam's screaming and other high pitched sounds, but as long as he sings normally, I can really enjoy it. And the old Queen stuff is obviously still available and can be listened to whenever we like. It was also never mentioned that Adam is replacing or copying Freddie. As long as B+R are happy, than I am as well.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Oct 26, 2020 18:09:18 GMT
Not that it matters, but I have been on the fence for years with regards to Q+AL. You Are The Champions did not do a thing for me, but this live album seems to have won me over as I really dig that album. Although it's been tough the first few listens, as I really struggled with Adam's screaming and other high pitched sounds, but as long as he sings normally, I can really enjoy it. And the old Queen stuff is obviously still available and can be listened to whenever we like. It was also never mentioned that Adam is replacing or copying Freddie. As long as B+R are happy, than I am as well. Yeah, with you on the screaming. He seems to have calmed that down more recently, and his voice seems to have got a little 'warmer'.
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Post by chowder on Oct 27, 2020 8:45:08 GMT
Not that it matters, but I have been on the fence for years with regards to Q+AL. You Are The Champions did not do a thing for me, but this live album seems to have won me over as I really dig that album. Although it's been tough the first few listens, as I really struggled with Adam's screaming and other high pitched sounds, but as long as he sings normally, I can really enjoy it. And the old Queen stuff is obviously still available and can be listened to whenever we like. It was also never mentioned that Adam is replacing or copying Freddie. As long as B+R are happy, than I am as well. Yeah, with you on the screaming. He seems to have calmed that down more recently, and his voice seems to have got a little 'warmer'.
Good to know that! Though I still don't know if I would like to hear a new studio album with this line-up. Or for that matter, with any new singer. As I feel that they, and especially Brian, have kind of lost their magic touch. New Horizons wasn't all that great. Roger's solo output from the past 1-2 years was good enough for me. But am not too sure on a joint effort.
And I hardly listen to the Q+PR studio album these days. It didn't really add anything to the world minus a few moments.
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Post by georg on Oct 27, 2020 12:04:08 GMT
When Brian has a muse he can write for, he can write pretty good stuff (Some Things That Glitter/I Loved a Butterly [stupid title], Dangerland, Roll With You, Love In a Rainbow), but that muse can also elude him (Panic Attack Song, Kissing Me Song) despite his best efforts. I just don't think he's had a muse as strong as Freddie to challenge him as a writer, which is why his solo career kinda fizzled out. He thought he had that with Paul Rodgers, but for me his three songs on The Cosmos Rocks fell flat (except for the aforementioned butterfly song), and I think he knew that; I also don't think Adam Lambert has provided that spark for Brian, if even either man has an interest in recording studio songs.
Roger, on the other hand, doesn't need a muse and just keeps writing. I think he's been on a latter-day renaissance – not in the style of Dylan or Springsteen, or even Bowie, but certainly a renaissance for him – since Woman You're So Beautiful. Not every song he writes is a winner, but I don't find my toes curling as much anymore whenever his "telephone voice" starts shouting or he starts railing against politicians, because he tends to focus on the more personal more or less, while still getting those swipes and digs in.
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Post by soxtalon on Oct 28, 2020 3:18:54 GMT
Brian has turned into more and more of a bubblegum pop writer. It makes sense given what he's been exposing himself to and working with. I'd love to see him jam with Iommi and others to really rediscover that rock edge. But he's doing what makes him happy so be it.
I agree with georg. I've been really digging Roger's solo stuff still. He has some vibrancy left in him. When he pops out with a new single, I get excited enough.
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Post by cmsdrums on Oct 28, 2020 21:57:02 GMT
I was pleased with the quality of the material but they have added more effects on the vocals in a number of songs. Can you elaborate on what "effects" they added, and where? There will ALWAY be effects (EQ, reverb, delay, chorus, compression etc..) as standard on all vocals, so I'm curious to know what else they added to such obvious effect. Thanks. One things I will say is that with Neil and Tyler both being very strong vocalists (Tyler especially in the higher register), the harmonies are better than ever on the last couple of tours.
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