Uncut Versions of Jesus, Son and Daughter, and Modern Times (Discussion)
Jul 8, 2020 0:10:53 GMT
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Post by queenfanatic on Jul 8, 2020 0:10:53 GMT
So I was looking at this copy master of Queen here and I found that the length of Jesus, Son and Daughter, and Modern Times were significantly longer than the final Album cuts. These lengths are open to multiple questions.
For Jesus, what new sections could have been cut? Did they do the same on this take as they did on De Lane Lea? (That version being 30 seconds shorter). I feel like the middle jam would have went on for quite a bit.
For Son and Daughter, how fast did they go until either the jam dissolved or a proper ending ensued? They would have went on for another 30 - 40 seconds before it just fell apart. I did a fade out cancelation and bass boosted mix of Son and Daughter and John was already sliding up and down the fretboard right at the dead end of the fade out, right at the point the white noise took over. It’s difficult to hear without headphones that are more targeted to have a bass boosted sound.
For Modern Times, what could have possibly made that version 3:19? There must have been one or two sections cut out. Considering that’s almost twice the length of the song.
Also, something to note, on the tracks section “2” is written next to the 4. It’s been documented for a while a that they used 16-track tape. Could this mean they were using an 8-track recorder and a 16-track recorder simultaneously at the studio? Or did they have 24-track tape recorders? Considering 24-track tape recording had been in existence since 1968. Or had the studio acquired a tape machine at some point between June 10th (The date most of the equipment listed was documented, by Billboard I believe) - July 30th? For the material on Queen and Queen II, mixing on 16-track tape and finding a way to properly bounce one thing to another surely must have been difficult. I don’t fully understand the mechanisms of tape recording, considering I was born around the period that pro tools and digital DAWs were starting to become more popular.
Please feel free to discuss or correct anything I might have wrongly interpreted.
Quick Note: I will be checking for any cuts on these songs to see if any extra sections or jam bits might have been cut out. This is a shot of Sikke’s copy master and please... DO NOT demand or harass him for a flac or file of this.
For Jesus, what new sections could have been cut? Did they do the same on this take as they did on De Lane Lea? (That version being 30 seconds shorter). I feel like the middle jam would have went on for quite a bit.
For Son and Daughter, how fast did they go until either the jam dissolved or a proper ending ensued? They would have went on for another 30 - 40 seconds before it just fell apart. I did a fade out cancelation and bass boosted mix of Son and Daughter and John was already sliding up and down the fretboard right at the dead end of the fade out, right at the point the white noise took over. It’s difficult to hear without headphones that are more targeted to have a bass boosted sound.
For Modern Times, what could have possibly made that version 3:19? There must have been one or two sections cut out. Considering that’s almost twice the length of the song.
Also, something to note, on the tracks section “2” is written next to the 4. It’s been documented for a while a that they used 16-track tape. Could this mean they were using an 8-track recorder and a 16-track recorder simultaneously at the studio? Or did they have 24-track tape recorders? Considering 24-track tape recording had been in existence since 1968. Or had the studio acquired a tape machine at some point between June 10th (The date most of the equipment listed was documented, by Billboard I believe) - July 30th? For the material on Queen and Queen II, mixing on 16-track tape and finding a way to properly bounce one thing to another surely must have been difficult. I don’t fully understand the mechanisms of tape recording, considering I was born around the period that pro tools and digital DAWs were starting to become more popular.
Please feel free to discuss or correct anything I might have wrongly interpreted.
Quick Note: I will be checking for any cuts on these songs to see if any extra sections or jam bits might have been cut out. This is a shot of Sikke’s copy master and please... DO NOT demand or harass him for a flac or file of this.
