Jackson Clift
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Post by Jackson Clift on Aug 10, 2022 18:29:18 GMT
As most of you know a while back the Freddie Mercury Solo channel remastered Freddie's music videos.
But I realized that Made In Heaven, some parts of I Was Born To Love You and Barcelona were in widescreen.
But they kept the others in 4:3
So where were those videos filmed in widescreen?
If not, do you know why there like that?
Thanks!
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emrabt
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Post by emrabt on Aug 10, 2022 20:47:02 GMT
So where were those videos filmed in widescreen? To answer your first question, the music videos were not intended to be widescreen, there were intended for 4:3 but the 35mm negative would have extra stuff at the sides. (My knowledge is limited so if anyone wants to give the accurate measurements and things go ahead) To go slightly more in depth;
They were filmed on film, so the aspect ratio would be something like 1.37, film makers then crop to widescreen (Chop the top and bottom off) and if filmed for TV crop the sides out too. Filmmakers intend for the picture to be matted out, the monitors have markings for the standard ratios, sometimes they tape card to the monitors too, so they can't see the area to be cropped. This has occasionally resulted in unmatted prints showing things like camera men and stunt men waiting around. When they showed Batman Returns on ITV for the first time for example, they unmatted the widescreen to make the image full screen instead of pan and scanning. Because these days it looks less dated to have things in widescreen. Here is an example of the 35mm aspect ratio and the widescreen of Jurassic Park. |
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pg
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Post by pg on Aug 12, 2022 15:49:22 GMT
My recollection is that in 1987, the Barcelona was presented on 4:3 TV screens with letterbox bars, a fairly standard device at the time to make things appear epic and more exotic.
I think Made In Heaven had bits that were like that, and I'm sure Radio GA GA fades them out as it zooms into the radio at some point.
So, while in general videos have been dealt with in extremely random ways over the years, these examples may be reflecting the original presentation
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Post by mikusguitarius on Aug 13, 2022 9:50:40 GMT
There's a slight confusion here....
If you shoot 35mm (or 16mm) at 1.33:1, and you never intend to crop to widescreen, then you keep the 1.33:1 (4:3) aspect ratio.... you wouldn't crop to 1:85.1 (for example) THEN crop the sides back to 4:3. If you routinely did this you've effectively zoomed into the image and reduced the picture quality.
Example: AOBTD.... shot on film (16mm or 35mm) at the full screen ratio of 1:33.1 with no intention of cropping to widescreen. Whereas IWIA was shot on film at 1:85.1 from the start.
This is of course completely different to Hollywood movies being shot 'open matte' as per the example above from Jurassic Park.
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oreno
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Post by oreno on Aug 13, 2022 10:24:04 GMT
Yes, 'going widescreen' was a common device on 80s music vids to get a bit cinematic, despite that people were only watching on 4:3 televisions. See also Vienna, etc. In fact there's countless examples. More often than not, though, they were usually videotaped (as video is way cheaper and easier to edit) in standard 4:3 then later 'cropped' to widescreen.
Now we're all watching on widescreen TVs, a lot of these old vids look sadly substandard. Usually we (or the broadcaster/DVD author) zooms in to the reduced image to fill the whole screen, making it lower res.
Also the big widescreen 'reveal' in Radio Ga Ga doesn't work anymore when you watch it on a widescreen TV. The effect is rather than going epic, it seems to shrink. Really that video needs re-editing so it starts in 4:3 and it then expands to fill the whole screen on the chorus. But that's never gonna happen is it. (Insert grumbling about the shambolic aspect ratios on GVH 1 &2 here).
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Post by mikusguitarius on Aug 13, 2022 17:25:34 GMT
Insert grumbling about the shambolic aspect ratios on GVH 1 & 2 here. It was a total DISASTER!!! Brian was quoted at the time of release that it was 'unavoidable' or something like that... |
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