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Post by Arnaldo Ogre- on Mar 25, 2023 18:21:36 GMT
They should call it the "Ballads Tour", because they speed they now play the songs at, esp KYA and Love Car, they're so creakingly slow, they may as well be ballads! Not to mention how slow they performed Stone Cold Crazy before it was dropped. Even slower than the studio version in some performances like this one! I actually like that performance a lot. One of my favorites by them. I wish the bass wasn't so loud. Cheers, Ogre-
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Post by saintjiub on Mar 25, 2023 19:02:35 GMT
Not to mention how slow they performed Stone Cold Crazy before it was dropped. Even slower than the studio version in some performances like this one! I actually like that performance a lot. One of my favorites by them. I wish the bass wasn't so loud. Cheers, Ogre- The bass is NEVER too loud! I beseech ...
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Post by Nicki on Mar 25, 2023 19:34:06 GMT
Oh, wow. I‘ve seen QAL performing SCC live a couple of times now, but never THAT slow. 😳 This must have been one of their first performances of that song together at the beginning of their US tour 2014. Since then they have found the gas pedal, so to say. Here is a video from 4 years later in 2018.
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Post by Sammy B. Willickers on Mar 25, 2023 19:42:31 GMT
Oh, wow. I‘ve seen QAL performing SCC live a couple of times now, but never THAT slow. 😳 This must have been one of their first performances of that song together at the beginning of their US tour 2014. Since then they have found the gas pedal, so to say. Here is a video from 4 years later in 2018. Fair enough! Seems it's the same bpm as the studio version, maybe a tad faster
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Post by Nicki on Mar 25, 2023 19:52:30 GMT
When I compare the early QAL performances from their first tour 2012 and also a bit 2014 with today, then they do play several songs faster. At least it sounds that way to me, it has more drive - a well oiled machine. Most noticeable on Radio Gaga and We Will Rock You.
If you go and see them, you won’t get (m)any surprise in the setlist. But you will get to hear the songs played by 2 of the original band members on the highest level possible. IMO.
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Post by Nicki on Mar 25, 2023 20:07:53 GMT
The difference between their first performance in 2012 and the one in 2020 for the Fire Fight concert 2012 in Sydney is astonishing, when you’re used to the well oiled machine, that they are by now. In 2012 Brian and Roger seemed a bit rusty. And Adam was nervous and tried to make no mistake, watching to the left and right, not to miss his parts to sing. By 2020 the band knows each other in and out and Adam has become a self-confident lead singer.
Radio Gaga 2012 (first full concert with Adam)
Radio Gaga 2020 (Fire Fight Sydney) - some 150 or so concerts later
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Post by Lord Fickle on Mar 25, 2023 21:29:28 GMT
The difference between their first performance in 2012 and the one in 2020 for the Fire Fight concert 2012 in Sydney is astonishing, when you’re used to the well oiled machine, that they are by now. In 2012 Brian and Roger seemed a bit rusty. And Adam was nervous and tried to make no mistake, watching to the left and right, not to miss his parts to sing. By 2020 the band knows each other in and out and Adam has become a self-confident lead singer. And now he doesn't care when he forgets the words! 😄
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Post by brightonrock on Mar 25, 2023 21:42:21 GMT
Unlike Freddie and Paul Rodgers, Adam is not a hard rock singer.
It is true that most of the songs are played at a slower speed than that of the past, but I interpret this not just as a decline, but also as an arrangement to fit Adam Lambert's image.
A Kind Of Magic, which Adam sang on last year's European tour, was played at a slower speed than those played on previous QAL tours, not to mention the Freddie era. However, it was played at a relatively up-tempo speed on Roger Taylor's Outsider Tour just prior to that tour, and Brian May joined the band on guitar for an outstanding performance. The drummer at that time was Tyler Warren, not Roger, but if he can play Stone Cold Crazy and Dragon Attack, there is no reason why Roger can't play up-tempo now.
It may seem like a stretch, but I believe that there are certainly songs like 2022's AKOM and the more recent STL that are arranged in tempo and song development to fit the image of Adam Lambert as a singer.
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Post by Nicki on Mar 25, 2023 22:08:27 GMT
Unlike Freddie and Paul Rodgers, Adam is not a hard rock singer. It is true that most of the songs are played at a slower speed than that of the past, but I interpret this not just as a decline, but also as an arrangement to fit Adam Lambert's image. A Kind Of Magic, which Adam sang on last year's European tour, was played at a slower speed than those played on previous QAL tours, not to mention the Freddie era. However, it was played at a relatively up-tempo speed on Roger Taylor's Outsider Tour just prior to that tour, and Brian May joined the band on guitar for an outstanding performance. The drummer at that time was Tyler Warren, not Roger, but if he can play Stone Cold Crazy and Dragon Attack, there is no reason why Roger can't play up-tempo now. It may seem like a stretch, but I believe that there are certainly songs like 2022's AKOM and the more recent STL that are arranged in tempo and song development to fit the image of Adam Lambert as a singer.I wouldn’t call it that, but the way you described it, it’s for sure, a choice of style. Adam doesn’t sing the songs exactly like the original versions, because Brian and Roger don’t want a copy. He isn’t the original singer and can’t do it like Freddie anyway. So they go and try different arrangements during rehearsals, until they agree one one. Of course Adam has input here, just like Brian, Roger or even the rest of the band (to some extend). STL has had at least 3 very different arrangements with QAL. One faster and closer to the original, one with a very slow first verse and then on the last tour 2020 even closer to the original with the harmonies at the beginning of the song.
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Post by Nicki on Mar 25, 2023 22:12:22 GMT
The difference between their first performance in 2012 and the one in 2020 for the Fire Fight concert 2012 in Sydney is astonishing, when you’re used to the well oiled machine, that they are by now. In 2012 Brian and Roger seemed a bit rusty. And Adam was nervous and tried to make no mistake, watching to the left and right, not to miss his parts to sing. By 2020 the band knows each other in and out and Adam has become a self-confident lead singer. And now he doesn't care when he forgets the words! 😄 As it should be.
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Post by merplot on Mar 25, 2023 22:20:35 GMT
I dont care how slow or fast they play this or that, I dont care that Adam is not first and foremost a rock singer, I dont care if the setlist is unchanged, I dont care if it's the last tour or not or whatever. I'm just happy to have a chance to see the people who made music I love so much make more music in person. Hell, I'm in my mid-30s and I couldnt do any of what theyre doing now for two and a half hours many nights in a row. This is the best things can be given time and circumstances and if I can swing tickets I'll be more than happy to go.
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Post by Nicki on Mar 25, 2023 22:34:23 GMT
A little addition to the discussion about Stone Cold Crazy: Adam performed it last month on his solo concert in London. He doesn’t have a single style IMO. This song has been quite regularly on his setlist, although some people say, it doesn’t fit his style. I don’t agree with that. But everyone has a different taste. 😉
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Post by brightonrock on Mar 25, 2023 22:49:56 GMT
I dont care how slow or fast they play this or that, I dont care that Adam is not first and foremost a rock singer, I dont care if the setlist is unchanged, I dont care if it's the last tour or not or whatever. I'm just happy to have a chance to see the people who made music I love so much make more music in person. Hell, I'm in my mid-30s and I couldnt do any of what theyre doing now for two and a half hours many nights in a row. This is the best things can be given time and circumstances and if I can swing tickets I'll be more than happy to go. I agree with you and love Queen + Adam Lambert. I am using a translator, so if I have offended you by the way I conveyed my message, I apologize. I hope you enjoy the concert and if they come to Japan again where I live, I will be the first to cancel all my plans and go to the concert.
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Post by Starfish on Mar 26, 2023 4:11:30 GMT
Initially I was upset that they were bringing back the Rhapsody tour instead of making a new stage show, but after waking up I thought about it and have got a little more positive view. Brian and Roger don't have to tour. That's it, Brian and Rog don't have to tour, but they still do and I'm grateful. Say what you want about AL, but I think the kid does a good job. I'm never gonna listen to Q+AL at home, but I will always go see them when they come to Texas. Initially, I felt the same way. Why is the band repeating "The Rhapsody Tour" again? I saw "The Rhapsody Tour" 2x in the Midwest back in 2019 and thoroughly enjoyed it. However, you're right. Brian and Roger don't have to tour. They could easily retire and rest on their laurels. I see that the concert dates are no longer back-to-back. They're spaced at least 2-3 days apart. I'm glad the boys are pacing themselves. If there's one reason I may see "The Rhapsody Tour" for the 3rd time in my metropolis in 2023, I want to see the band perform "TATDOOL" live and see the video on the stage's large screen of Freddie and the band back in their heyday. The band never performed "TATDOOL" on the U.S. leg in 2019, but they performed it on their postponed European leg in 2022 (I saw the livestream of "Rhapsody Over London Live."). Gosh, I hope the band plays it next fall.
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Post by merplot on Mar 26, 2023 4:23:38 GMT
I dont care how slow or fast they play this or that, I dont care that Adam is not first and foremost a rock singer, I dont care if the setlist is unchanged, I dont care if it's the last tour or not or whatever. I'm just happy to have a chance to see the people who made music I love so much make more music in person. Hell, I'm in my mid-30s and I couldnt do any of what theyre doing now for two and a half hours many nights in a row. This is the best things can be given time and circumstances and if I can swing tickets I'll be more than happy to go. I agree with you and love Queen + Adam Lambert. I am using a translator, so if I have offended you by the way I conveyed my message, I apologize. I hope you enjoy the concert and if they come to Japan again where I live, I will be the first to cancel all my plans and go to the concert. You didn't offend me! Sorry if I sounded harsh. I wasn't trying to single you out-- I've read a lot of Internet opinions on what they should or shouldnt be doing recently since they announced the tour. It's hard to read negative stuff all the time. I'm just saying that I support them going back out on tour and have adjusted expectations to enjoy them as they are now =). もしいつかクイーンが日本に戻ったらどうぞ楽しんでくださいね。
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Post by Leon's Crazy Game on Mar 26, 2023 8:20:50 GMT
I'll just say this much. If I went to a QAL show (and I probably will, should they return to Munich) I'd go mainly for Brian, a bit for Roger but not for Adam at all. I respect him as a (very technical) singer but I just don't like the texture or tone of his voice with 99% of the material they play out there. I respect everyone who disagrees but the way he also tends to oversings stuff, just sustaining a (usually higher than the original) note often seems more like showing off than actually just singing and that together with me not enjoying his voice in the first place just makes me not care for his vocals whatsoever. Still, I'm not someone to say he should stop touring with Queen as the band are very clearly enjoying this and so are a lot of fans and I'm sure this is more important than one opinion of mine
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Post by Brian's Wig on Mar 26, 2023 19:11:42 GMT
They should call it the "Ballads Tour", because they speed they now play the songs at, esp KYA and Love Car, they're so creakingly slow, they may as well be ballads! Not to mention how slow they performed Stone Cold Crazy before it was dropped. Even slower than the studio version in some performances like this one! Never seen that before! Thanks for sharing! Who ever said sarcasm get's you nowhere?!
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Post by deathtoming on Mar 26, 2023 19:51:07 GMT
Every QAL North American tour has featured at least one non-Greatest Hits song that was connected to a newer Queen release at the time... 2014: Love Kills (Queen Forever) 2017: Spread Your Wings, It's Late, the stage design (News of the World 40th Anniversary box set) 2019: Doing All Right (movie, movie soundtrack)
So, is there a chance we could see something connected to The Miracle, unless there's something else released before the fall tour? Face It Alone was promoted a fair bit when it was released, but their tour will be around 12 months after. I can still see parts of the guitar solo from Face it Alone popping up during Brian's usual solo time, though.
Then again, 2017 also saw them performing Two Fux (Lambert solo), so maybe we'll be seeing something from Lambert's covers album from February 2023, as that would be the latest related release at this point.
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Post by Sammy B. Willickers on Mar 26, 2023 21:50:11 GMT
Hoping they give Breakthru a debut! Also, I'm not sure if they'd play anything from Adam's cover album, considering they haven't played anything from Adam's albums at all on this tour, but we'll have to wait and see I suppose
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Post by westschinken on Mar 26, 2023 22:08:40 GMT
Do you have any idea how much tickets will cost? I'm thinking of flying to Dallas for a few days in November to see the concert.
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Post by Starfish on Mar 27, 2023 0:38:15 GMT
Gosh, I would love it if the band played "Spread Your Wings" in concert. It's one of my fav' Queen songs, but it's a John Deacon song.
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Post by florians on Mar 27, 2023 13:32:34 GMT
Gosh, I would love it if the band played "Spread Your Wings" in concert. It's one of my fav' Queen songs, but it's a John Deacon song. They did in 2017 but dropped it together with it's later after a couple of shows.
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Post by florians on Mar 27, 2023 13:33:50 GMT
Every QAL North American tour has featured at least one non-Greatest Hits song that was connected to a newer Queen release at the time... 2014: Love Kills (Queen Forever) 2017: Spread Your Wings, It's Late, the stage design (News of the World 40th Anniversary box set) 2019: Doing All Right (movie, movie soundtrack) So, is there a chance we could see something connected to The Miracle, unless there's something else released before the fall tour? Face It Alone was promoted a fair bit when it was released, but their tour will be around 12 months after. I can still see parts of the guitar solo from Face it Alone popping up during Brian's usual solo time, though. Then again, 2017 also saw them performing Two Fux (Lambert solo), so maybe we'll be seeing something from Lambert's covers album from February 2023, as that would be the latest related release at this point. Since they did Machines in 2019 I think that everything is possible.
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Post by deathtoming on Mar 28, 2023 2:38:15 GMT
Hoping they give Breakthru a debut! Also, I'm not sure if they'd play anything from Adam's cover album, considering they haven't played anything from Adam's albums at all on this tour, but we'll have to wait and see I suppose :P True, but there wasn't new Lambert material to promote during the Rhapsody Tour. Two Fux was brand new when it appeared in the 2017 tour, and Ghost Town was around 5 months old when QAL performed it. Also, the inclusion of Whole Lotta Love and Heartbreak Hotel means there's been a precedent set of playing covers. Although with Star Fleet being planned for a summer release, that actually might be the most current Queen-related release by the time they go out on tour. Hmmm! (Nah..)
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Post by Raf on Mar 28, 2023 13:47:26 GMT
Although with Star Fleet being planned for a summer release, that actually might be the most current Queen-related release by the time they go out on tour. Hmmm! (Nah..) I think they could play a Roger solo + a Brian solo song every concert as a possible deep cut for the fans. Their core fanbase would react as positively to those as they have to Queen's album tracks on the rare occasions they get played, but except for Last Horizon (as part of Brian's solo spot rather than as a band effort), it never happened. Driven By You was a hit and ended up in a Queen compilation, Too Much Love Will Kill You and Heaven For Everyone ended up being released as Queen songs, and not even those got a chance. So I really wouldn't count on Star Fleet... Interestingly, Freddie's solo songs - or at least solo songs reworked as Queen songs - did get some attention: I Was Born To Love You (acoustic back in the QPR days and electric with Adam) and Love Kills. And I really wish they'd play IWBTLY elsewhere in the world, their version with Adam was one of the highlights of their collab and shouldn't be restricted to Japan!
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Post by oreno on Mar 28, 2023 17:40:24 GMT
Much as we here would all love more deep cuts, live they just don't cut it. Not in arenas anyway. They always get phased out pretty quickly bacause audiences don't respond, they don't know the words, and worse, they get restless. The big crowds want the hits they know, preferably the Greatest Hits I and II - it's not a Queen devotee audience that sells these shows out. There's a very good reason they only played a few bars of Doin Alright. Neil Fairclough did a bass solo on one tour where he incorporated bits of old Queen rarities, including 'Nevermore', and literally everyone sat around me was utterly nonplussed, they all thought he was just noodling some pleasant ditties. A Brian or Roger solo song? Forget it..
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Post by oreno on Mar 28, 2023 17:49:11 GMT
Sorry that seems very mean spirited to the discussion, we are all free to dream and wish here after all. Just I think that's how it is, and how the band see it too, which is a shame. Of course I'd love them to surprise us.
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Post by deathtoming on Mar 29, 2023 2:23:43 GMT
Although with Star Fleet being planned for a summer release, that actually might be the most current Queen-related release by the time they go out on tour. Hmmm! (Nah..) I think they could play a Roger solo + a Brian solo song every concert as a possible deep cut for the fans. Their core fanbase would react as positively to those as they have to Queen's album tracks on the rare occasions they get played, but except for Last Horizon (as part of Brian's solo spot rather than as a band effort), it never happened. Driven By You was a hit and ended up in a Queen compilation, Too Much Love Will Kill You and Heaven For Everyone ended up being released as Queen songs, and not even those got a chance. So I really wouldn't count on Star Fleet... Interestingly, Freddie's solo songs - or at least solo songs reworked as Queen songs - did get some attention: I Was Born To Love You (acoustic back in the QPR days and electric with Adam) and Love Kills. And I really wish they'd play IWBTLY elsewhere in the world, their version with Adam was one of the highlights of their collab and shouldn't be restricted to Japan! :) Oh for sure, I'm not expecting Star Fleet either. But there's that pattern I mentioned of them including something connected to a newish release each of the last three North American tours, so I'm hoping there will be something new this time too. I wrote about possibly a nod to Face It Alone in a guitar solo, but how about even further with a guitar solo + Freddie vocals, like they did with Bijou live in the Paul Rodgers days? I thought Bijou worked really well, and Face It Alone could have a similar effect although playing the whole song wouldn't work well. As for I Was Born to Love You, I wonder if it felt like an obligation to release it as a single both times in Japan because of its ties to other media, and if it again felt like an obligation to perform it live in Japan. It's the only song from Made In Heaven they've played live, and in such limited circumstances, too. Maybe that album feels like mostly a no-go territory for Brian and Roger because of the nature of it.
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Post by soxtalon on Mar 29, 2023 5:18:54 GMT
I think the best we could hope for as far as any "deep cut" would be concerned would be something from The Miracle as it was the last Queen release. I could see Breakthru or the Miracle get played. They are still GH of course but that would make for something interesting! They also made the Was It All Worth It...and that seems like an interesting choice in what could be their last jaunt in the U.S.
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Post by kristinaz91 on Mar 29, 2023 7:02:26 GMT
I am still hoping they maybe add a Vancouver or Seattle date wouldn't mind seeing them again. One thing I didn't get to see live in 2019 when I saw them in Vancouver is TATDOOL so that's one song I really would love to see live just once atleast. I vary my opinion on QAL depending on alot of things but I have no issues with Brian and Roger touring and going on. Without them touring and without the movie(yes yes I know ) I would have never been introduced to Queen (was born 3 months before Freddie passed)
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