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Post by ADAM'S REMASTER on Jun 22, 2023 9:16:48 GMT
Given that this is the first concert of the News Of The World Tour and the first live performances of the new songs, do you think anyone was able to record the whole show, part of it, or just a few songs?
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Post by Leon's Crazy Game on Jun 22, 2023 15:49:57 GMT
As for every show, there is a possibility. That's about everything anyone could tell you though
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Post by beyondthemoon on Jun 22, 2023 21:44:59 GMT
Given that this is the first concert of the News Of The World Tour and the first live performances of the new songs, do you think anyone was able to record the whole show, part of it, or just a few songs? I think it would be a more than reasonable assumption that every Queen show starting with the Sheer Heart Attack tour (maybe barring exceptions for special cases like Tottenham Mayfair 12/19/79) was taped by at least one person in the audience.
Using Brussels 1974 as a sample size for instance, that's at minimum two tapers even in a crowd of only 500 or 600 (source 2 is long gone sadly). I've been researching concert taping as a phenomenon for years and have found that it was a far more common thing to do at that time than we will ever be able to realize. It wasn't something that required much intent, especially because of how relaxed concert security was in those days. Most people used their family's tabletop recorders with internal mics, recorded on cheap blanks, and then threw them into a drawer somewhere until they were either thrown out or preserved in some way.
Compared to other bands like Led Zeppelin, I believe the only reason why we don't have a flood of Queen audience tapes is because they weren't seen to be as "special"/worth collecting as a band like Zep or Pink Floyd, especially before Freddie died. As a result, they didn't catch the attention of old school traders tracking down every taper they could find. The average Queen taper was a vastly different person (and fan of music) than the average Zeppelin taper, and much less likely to be involved in things like tape trading and torrenting. Even the ones who were, in the case of Queen, sometimes heavily gatekept it, which is why so many UK recordings remained uncirculated until recent years (and many still are uncirculated!)
Likewise, what we have is mostly not a reflection of what was taped. It is far more indicative of who was trading, and even when things were traded, who traded more widely than others. The vast majority of Queen's shows in Detroit, for instance, exist as audience recordings, but seemingly weren't traded outside of Michigan.
I'm sure Portland 77 has a couple of audience tapes still around. It's just a question of if we're ever lucky enough that the person who has them realizes its value to Queen's history.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Jun 22, 2023 22:27:24 GMT
I'm sure Portland 77 has a couple of audience tapes still around. It's just a question of if we're ever lucky enough that the person who has them realizes its value to Queen's history. There's also the issue that the tapers may no longer be alive, and that any tapes may have been inadvertently disposed of with the rest of their personal effects.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Jun 23, 2023 8:18:12 GMT
It's strange that (from that tour at least) it appears that NONE of the New England concerts are circulating?
11, Nov 1977 - Cumberland County Civic Center - Portland, Maine 12, Nov 1977 - Boston Gardens - Boston, Massachusetts 13, Nov 1977 - Civic Center - Springfield, Massachusetts 15, Nov 1977 - Civic Center - Providence, Rhode island 16, Nov 1977 - Memorial Coliseum - New Haven, Connecticut
Especially when the New England gigs previously were well represented in the taping community - especially Boston, Providence and Portland
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Post by ADAM'S REMASTER on Jun 23, 2023 12:00:12 GMT
It's a real shame, because it could be considered one of Freddie's best concerts (vocally).
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Post by ADAM'S REMASTER on Jun 23, 2023 12:04:20 GMT
I heard that Paul Fernandez (who previously recorded Providence 1978 and shared it) had a recording of Providence 1977 in his garage near Oakland, but that a year or two ago (I can't remember) he said he didn't have one. But I think that's a lie and that he was just pissed off by people who kept asking him and that he said that to get people off his back.
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Post by ADAM'S REMASTER on Jun 23, 2023 12:08:19 GMT
The first recording available for Queen's North American tour is Detroit on November 18, 1977. We have no recordings before this date (not even a snippet, as far as I know...).
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Post by beyondthemoon on Jun 23, 2023 16:15:05 GMT
I heard that Paul Fernandez (who previously recorded Providence 1978 and shared it) had a recording of Providence 1977 in his garage near Oakland, but that a year or two ago (I can't remember) he said he didn't have one. But I think that's a lie and that he was just pissed off by people who kept asking him and that he said that to get people off his back. He only recorded the 78 show. He did attend 77 (A Day At The Races, not News Of The World) but was not taping that night. To the best of my knowledge, he once mixed up which show he taped of those two, and that's where that info stems from.
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