Jake12
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Post by Jake12 on Jul 28, 2020 13:26:57 GMT
 Aright guys so I just revived this magazine yesterday and spent some time scanning and translating it and scanning the pages of this 20 page magazine covering the gigs in Mexico.. more specifically the 2 shows done in Puebla. This also cover some new info as well as debunking A few myths about their stay in Puebla. For me I’ve always obsessed over the fact Queen played in Mexico since in Mexican and I have family that live in Mexico and all that but of course we all know they only played 3 shows and never returned. These little articles go into why they never returned and common myths that people think happened or didn’t happened will be explained! I will attach a Mega link with all the scans of the magazine as well as the replica ticket and backstage pass it came with as well as text in English for you non speaking Spanish people! Try to bare with the translation as it’s kind of hard to translate some words from Spanish to English. AND a CD of the first night in Puebla will also be on there! I do have to thank my friend and author of the magazine and from Queen Fan Club Mexico, Francisco Arellano Baltazar who did a great job with this! *ONE small note* When you are reading pages 2-5 I believe, you’ll see the text that have the letter M: followed by R: this really only means that “M” stands for Myth and “R” is the real answer to the myth. Enjoy! mega.nz/folder/BRF2gQAZ#jJMLa-Gqx7Umz3cmm-CUqw |
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Post by oreno on Jul 28, 2020 14:07:03 GMT
This is absolutely brilliant, so fascinating, thank you.
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Post by Mack Mantilla on Jul 29, 2020 1:26:56 GMT
Thanks a lot for this  |
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Post by dragonkiller on Jul 29, 2020 8:55:49 GMT
Thank you for the share,some interesting stuff
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Post by emrabt on Jul 29, 2020 10:32:25 GMT
Thank you so much for doing this. I've not read it all yet.
It seems a lot of stuff Freddie did at most shows, Like throwing his water into the audience and wearing hats have been taken out of context and turned into "Freddie mocked Mexicans and spat on them".
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Post by masterstroke on Jul 29, 2020 11:51:17 GMT
Thank you very much for the images! All very interesting. I have transferred your images to a PDF to make it easier to see, in case anyone wants it. we.tl/t-aZ9RKo9fx0 |
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Post by Unniendo on Jul 29, 2020 16:42:26 GMT
Awesome! Thanks a lot for share.
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Post by Chinwonder2 on Jul 30, 2020 10:50:38 GMT
Thank you very much for the share! I've picked out something quite interesting about some film on the concert. This is from page 19: "There are many myths and urban legends about what happened during Queen's first concert in Puebla. Luckily, we packed 2 rolls of Super 8 film without sound into the Ignacio Zaragoza Stadium, the cost of which equalled 3 concert tickets, so we were able to record 5 minutes of the show (the Super 8 format with sound required a camera and a special film and had a higher cost). A few seconds of this filming were uploaded to the network, but in view of the attacks received by haters, it was decided not to upload any more footage. The film that has been shown at the Queen fest in Mexico City since 1995 has never been hidden. There is no more filming with this camera, but many more movie cameras could be seen during a concert, even some professionals manipulated by foreigners.The stands of the Ignacio Zaragosa Stadium are made of cement, there was never a collapse or a person was injured because of that. The cameras did not use batteries and there were still no home portable video cameras."The Real Wizard -Chin |
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Post by emrabt on Jul 30, 2020 11:17:09 GMT
And now we know: 1) Brian was hit with a sock full of dirt during the Bohemian Rhapsody solo.
2) Peter Freestone ended up taking this bolt home as a souvenir:
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Post by Jake12 on Jul 30, 2020 15:18:16 GMT
Thank you very much for the share! I've picked out something quite interesting about some film on the concert. This is from page 19: "There are many myths and urban legends about what happened during Queen's first concert in Puebla. Luckily, we packed 2 rolls of Super 8 film without sound into the Ignacio Zaragoza Stadium, the cost of which equalled 3 concert tickets, so we were able to record 5 minutes of the show (the Super 8 format with sound required a camera and a special film and had a higher cost). A few seconds of this filming were uploaded to the network, but in view of the attacks received by haters, it was decided not to upload any more footage. The film that has been shown at the Queen fest in Mexico City since 1995 has never been hidden. There is no more filming with this camera, but many more movie cameras could be seen during a concert, even some professionals manipulated by foreigners.The stands of the Ignacio Zaragosa Stadium are made of cement, there was never a collapse or a person was injured because of that. The cameras did not use batteries and there were still no home portable video cameras."The Real Wizard -Chin Actually in talks with being involved with 2 more magazines for the other Puebla show and the show in Monterrey. ALSO in talks with getting footage from Monterrey which was rumored to be 50min long but actually maybe 90min! |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Jul 30, 2020 19:40:54 GMT
Great stuff ! Thanks for doing this.
Neat to see a photo of a taper on page 17.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Jul 30, 2020 19:56:13 GMT
The stands of the Ignacio Zaragosa Stadium are made of cement, there was never a collapse or a person was injured because of that. The cameras did not use batteries and there were still no home portable video cameras." ha, because cement never collapses... especially a stadium with its foundation in dirt (as clearly seen in a photo in this very magazine) that's full beyond capacity amidst sheer chaos because the police are beating people to a pulp. I've spoken face to face with people who were there - it all happened.
This piece was a very interesting read overall and no doubt well researched (I loved the bit about the bootlegs being handed over to Brian), but there are so many factors at play when interviewing people about an event like this - particularly those with professional reputations to uphold, even decades after the fact. But this fellow is a well-meaning fan, not a music historian.
Some of the "myths" being debunked are straw man arguments. Obviously the band never outright stated that they'd never come to Mexico again. It was something they decided internally with their manager. Not a difficult decision to make when you're the biggest band in the world and your crew was fed rat meat and everyone had to share a single toilet backstage.
And of course photo cameras didn't require batteries. The confiscated batteries were for tape recorders. Both of these sound like a bit of miscommunication due to language barrier. And there were already portable video cameras by the 70s.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Jul 31, 2020 1:31:04 GMT
Revisionist history at its finest.
Business is business - everything is done on paper, and Jim Beach was undoubtedly smart enough to write in escape clauses for circumstances like this. But this is the same promoter who tried to charge an opening band 100,000 pesos for the pleasure of having the opening slot. Even in the best of times most promoters are a cantankerous bunch, but this was 1980s Mexico - the wild west. Queen would've been on the first flight out of the country if they could have (they already managed to bail on their last four dates for similar reasons). And let's not forget their bodyguards had food poisoning along with the rest of the crew and couldn't intervene, so their hands were tied. To be a fly on the wall to see how tense that scene was.
So who are we going to believe - the scuzzy promoter who would've lost his shirt if they didn't show, or the band who left the country 24 hours later and hasn't set foot there since?
Concerts were banned in Puebla for a decade after this debacle that was the Queen shows. The hands of the locals were far from clean.
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Post by emrabt on Jul 31, 2020 13:37:01 GMT
And of course photo cameras didn't require batteries. The confiscated batteries were for tape recorders. Both of these sound like a bit of miscommunication due to language barrier. And there were already portable video cameras by the 70s.
I think you may have misunderstood the myth being debunked with this one, due in part by the literal translation:
The myth seems to be that batteries were confiscated by Queen to stop people filming the concert, and that's why there are so few photos and Video.
"There are so few photos and videos of queen in Puebla as people were unable to operate their photography or cinema devices because the batteries of their cameras and devices were confiscated"
The Clarification is that a lot of cameras of the time were super 8, which didn't need batteries and that video cameras with batteries were not in use by most of the public of Puebla due to the cost And even flash camera's didn't need batteries they were mechanical.
"Most of the home photo cameras of the time were mechanical, they did not require batteries to take photos or operate the flash. home movie cameras for filming movies (in super 8 format) were expensive and rare. It's with the passage of time that this material has been lost."
Later it goes on to state that the roll of film for the Super 8 camera was 3 times the price of the ticket.
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Post by masterstroke on Jul 31, 2020 14:29:52 GMT
Sorry if I have not understood something.
Cassette recorders of that time needed batteries.
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Post by emrabt on Jul 31, 2020 14:46:01 GMT
Sorry if I have not understood something. Cassette recorders of that time needed batteries. The myth being debunked was that the reason for the lack of photos and video media from this concert was because batteries were confiscated. Which isn't true. Batteries were confiscated to stop audio being recorded, Although the magazine says lots of people got past the guards and recorded anyway. |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Jul 31, 2020 18:48:33 GMT
And of course photo cameras didn't require batteries. The confiscated batteries were for tape recorders. Both of these sound like a bit of miscommunication due to language barrier. And there were already portable video cameras by the 70s.
I think you may have misunderstood the myth being debunked with this one, due in part by the literal translation:
The myth seems to be that batteries were confiscated by Queen to stop people filming the concert, and that's why there are so few photos and Video.
"There are so few photos and videos of queen in Puebla as people were unable to operate their photography or cinema devices because the batteries of their cameras and devices were confiscated"
The Clarification is that a lot of cameras of the time were super 8, which didn't need batteries and that video cameras with batteries were not in use by most of the public of Puebla due to the cost And even flash camera's didn't need batteries they were mechanical.
"Most of the home photo cameras of the time were mechanical, they did not require batteries to take photos or operate the flash. home movie cameras for filming movies (in super 8 format) were expensive and rare. It's with the passage of time that this material has been lost."
Later it goes on to state that the roll of film for the Super 8 camera was 3 times the price of the ticket. Yeah, fair play. But I guess it's still splitting hairs at this point, especially since two audio sources, a super 8 film, and a ton of photos exist from the show.
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Post by masterstroke on Aug 2, 2020 12:41:28 GMT
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