|
|
Post by mikusguitarius on Sept 11, 2020 15:30:33 GMT
I've met - and chatted to - Neil Fairclough. Not only is he a fine bassist but he's also one of the nicest people you could ever meet. Warm and friendly.
But I'm wondering about Danny Miranda.... I've never read or seen anything about him. Was he simply not rehired? Was he OK or a bit of a dick?
Lastly... why not take Neil Murray off of WWRY at the time and make him the touring bassist?
Cheers
|
|
rogercz
Dragonfly Trumpeter
Posts: 128
Likes: 54
|
Post by rogercz on Sept 11, 2020 16:21:19 GMT
If I remeber it correctly, Danny and Jamie Moses, who also toured with Queen+PR, weren't happy with the end of the collaboration and didn't want to join Q+AL project (a boy from TV show X-factor, do you remember Q+PR song C-Lebrity? Spike or Jamie used to show the "X" letter, made by crossing their arms, during this song to show their disrespect to the X-factor)...
And Neil wasn't their choice in 2011 for the same reason as in 2005 - he couldn't sing, so they wanted somebody useful in the vocal harmonies with the rest of the band
|
|
|
|
Post by mikusguitarius on Sept 11, 2020 19:04:18 GMT
Thanks rogercz,
I'm not sure I buy into your first paragraph... especially Spike visibly showing disrespect. Surely you don't bite the hand that feeds you (to Brian & Roger I mean)
But Neil Murray not singing.... yeah makes perfect sense.
Cheers
|
|
Dimitris
Ploughman
Posts: 476
Likes: 282
|
Post by Dimitris on Sept 11, 2020 23:46:41 GMT
I think he was concentrated in his, solo work and Blue Oyster. Neil Murray was in wwry musical in 2008 and in some cases replaced Danny. I think Q2 arena Oct 2008
|
|
Frank
Politician
Posts: 754 
Likes: 681
|
Post by Frank on Sept 12, 2020 2:49:31 GMT
There was an interview with Danny Miranda in the latest fan club magazine.
Brief excerpt:
Was it a surprise to you when the Q + PR collaboration came to an end after the 2008 tour?
Yes, but all good things eventually come to an end. I enjoyed every minute of Q + PR and am grateful that it lasted as long as it did.
Looking back, how would you describe your personal and professional relationships with Brian and Roger during 2005-2008?
The relationships were great. Just perfect. They couldn't have been nicer or more accommodating.
Do you still keep in touch with the other band members?
I haven't spoken to most of them for a while, but I'm hopeful we will all talk and possibly meet again. I've seen Paul now and again; we've done the Rock Legends Cruise together and we run into each other on the road from time to time and keep in touch.
Was it ever in the reckoning for you to be part of Queen + Adam Lambert when they came together in 2012 and have you seen them live?
Not to my knowledge and I've not had a chance to see them.
In general, what do you make of the collaboration with Adam in comparison to that with Paul?
I don't think it would be fair to compare the two bands as they are two very different versions and interpretations.
|
|
|
|
Post by mikusguitarius on Sept 12, 2020 8:56:14 GMT
There was an interview with Danny Miranda in the latest fan club magazine. Brief excerpt: Was it a surprise to you when the Q + PR collaboration came to an end after the 2008 tour?Yes, but all good things eventually come to an end. I enjoyed every minute of Q + PR and am grateful that it lasted as long as it did. Looking back, how would you describe your personal and professional relationships with Brian and Roger during 2005-2008?The relationships were great. Just perfect. They couldn't have been nicer or more accommodating. Do you still keep in touch with the other band members?
I haven't spoken to most of them for a while, but I'm hopeful we will all talk and possibly meet again. I've seen Paul now and again; we've done the Rock Legends Cruise together and we run into each other on the road from time to time and keep in touch. Was it ever in the reckoning for you to be part of Queen + Adam Lambert when they came together in 2012 and have you seen them live?Not to my knowledge and I've not had a chance to see them. In general, what do you make of the collaboration with Adam in comparison to that with Paul?I don't think it would be fair to compare the two bands as they are two very different versions and interpretations. Perfect! Thanks fo this! |
|
rogercz
Dragonfly Trumpeter
Posts: 128
Likes: 54
|
Post by rogercz on Sept 12, 2020 10:12:27 GMT
If I remeber it correctly, Danny and Jamie Moses, who also toured with Queen+PR, weren't happy with the end of the collaboration and didn't want to join Q+AL project (a boy from TV show X-factor, do you remember Q+PR song C-Lebrity? Spike or Jamie used to show the "X" letter, made by crossing their arms, during this song to show their disrespect to the X-factor)... And Neil wasn't their choice in 2011 for the same reason as in 2005 - he couldn't sing, so they wanted somebody useful in the vocal harmonies with the rest of the band Well, in 2008, the things were quite different. I remember long discussions on several chat boards about what was good and bad on each concert - nowadays, people just check the setlist during the first concert and then expect no new songs during the tour. In 2008, setlist was more surprising - especially when they add and remove their new material (C-lebrity, Cosmos Rockin' and SINT were always part of, but Surf's Up..., Warboys, Voodoo, Time To Shine sometimes just popped up and soon sadly disapearred...). And the group was also different. During the C-lebrity chorus, when Spike (I actually quite thing that was really him) has more free time (and hands), he crossed his arms during at least one concert as he showed his attitude to X-factor. Actually, the song was written for this reason, Roger and Brian talked about these kind of shows with minimal respect. No one from the band nor the fans could even imagined that after couple of months QPR era would be done and only one year later, it would be Spike who will tell Rog about certain boy with interesting voice (AL). |
|
eiricd
Dragonfly Trumpeter
Posts: 162
Likes: 71
|
Post by eiricd on Oct 3, 2020 19:58:11 GMT
I think Brian had started working with Neil via Kerry Ellis post 2008?
|
|
|
|
Post by mikusguitarius on Oct 6, 2020 10:54:47 GMT
I think Brian had started working with Neil via Kerry Ellis post 2008? Indeed... after being on Weekend Wogan on BBC Radio 2. Elio Pace and his band backed them..... and Brian asked Neil (who still plays for Elio now) if he'd be interested. |
|
|
|
Post by The Real Wizard on Nov 24, 2020 7:28:09 GMT
I'm not sure I buy into your first paragraph... especially Spike visibly showing disrespect. Surely you don't bite the hand that feeds you (to Brian & Roger I mean) Bang on.
Sidemen know exactly what their gig is - to show respect to the boss.
Reading into it any further is seeing something that just isn't there.
|
|
|
|
Post by The Real Wizard on Nov 24, 2020 7:33:48 GMT
There was an interview with Danny Miranda in the latest fan club magazine. Brief excerpt: Was it a surprise to you when the Q + PR collaboration came to an end after the 2008 tour?Yes, but all good things eventually come to an end. I enjoyed every minute of Q + PR and am grateful that it lasted as long as it did. Looking back, how would you describe your personal and professional relationships with Brian and Roger during 2005-2008?The relationships were great. Just perfect. They couldn't have been nicer or more accommodating. Do you still keep in touch with the other band members?
I haven't spoken to most of them for a while, but I'm hopeful we will all talk and possibly meet again. I've seen Paul now and again; we've done the Rock Legends Cruise together and we run into each other on the road from time to time and keep in touch. Was it ever in the reckoning for you to be part of Queen + Adam Lambert when they came together in 2012 and have you seen them live?Not to my knowledge and I've not had a chance to see them. In general, what do you make of the collaboration with Adam in comparison to that with Paul?I don't think it would be fair to compare the two bands as they are two very different versions and interpretations. Diplomacy to the Nth degree. This is why he has worked for decades.
No doubt he has far better answers to most of these questions, but they're not his stories to tell because he's not signing the cheques.
|
|
rogercz
Dragonfly Trumpeter
Posts: 128
Likes: 54
|
Post by rogercz on Nov 24, 2020 16:31:13 GMT
I'm not sure I buy into your first paragraph... especially Spike visibly showing disrespect. Surely you don't bite the hand that feeds you (to Brian & Roger I mean) Bang on.
Sidemen know exactly what their gig is - to show respect to the boss.
Reading into it any further is seeing something that just isn't there.
Yes and in 2008 the band's approach was to mock the X factor like lyrics of C-lebrity clearly show  Nowadays, even Bri or Roger hardly can say anything wrong about these kind of shows. |
|
|
|
Post by The Real Wizard on Nov 24, 2020 19:34:11 GMT
Bang on.
Sidemen know exactly what their gig is - to show respect to the boss.
Reading into it any further is seeing something that just isn't there.
Yes and in 2008 the band's approach was to mock the X factor like lyrics of C-lebrity clearly show Nowadays, even Bri or Roger hardly can say anything wrong about these kind of shows. One of the most wonderful things in life is the ability to change your mind as the world around you changes.
All they've wanted for the last 20 years is to ensure their legacy is intact with the next generation, and a TV show helped them with their reach far more than they could've dreamed of when they wrote that song. |
|
|
|
Post by ThomasQuinn on Nov 30, 2020 11:55:23 GMT
Yes and in 2008 the band's approach was to mock the X factor like lyrics of C-lebrity clearly show Nowadays, even Bri or Roger hardly can say anything wrong about these kind of shows. One of the most wonderful things in life is the ability to change your mind as the world around you changes.
All they've wanted for the last 20 years is to ensure their legacy is intact with the next generation, and a TV show helped them with their reach far more than they could've dreamed of when they wrote that song. Look here Bob, I agree with you on a lot of points, but when it comes to these reality shows, you're just plain wrong. First of all, they are generally rigged - not only are the winners generally picked in advance, frequently, they actually *plant* people they've deliberately recruited - professionals who are not yet well-known. Second of all, they are essentially the successor to the boy band/girl band-model of the late '80s and '90s, with the same result - total control for the record company and the producers, more dulling down of the music and a steady stream of glorified elevator music as a product, the 'artist' (poster boy/girl) to be discarded ASAP so the next hype can be manufactured.
I cannot for the life of me understand how someone who truly loves music and creativity can defend the reality show trickery and debasement of music.
|
|
Raf
Dragonfly Trumpeter
Sweet like some kind of cheese
Posts: 198
Likes: 236
|
Post by Raf on Nov 30, 2020 19:25:30 GMT
One of the most wonderful things in life is the ability to change your mind as the world around you changes.
All they've wanted for the last 20 years is to ensure their legacy is intact with the next generation, and a TV show helped them with their reach far more than they could've dreamed of when they wrote that song. Look here Bob, I agree with you on a lot of points, but when it comes to these reality shows, you're just plain wrong. First of all, they are generally rigged - not only are the winners generally picked in advance, frequently, they actually *plant* people they've deliberately recruited - professionals who are not yet well-known. Second of all, they are essentially the successor to the boy band/girl band-model of the late '80s and '90s, with the same result - total control for the record company and the producers, more dulling down of the music and a steady stream of glorified elevator music as a product, the 'artist' (poster boy/girl) to be discarded ASAP so the next hype can be manufactured.
I cannot for the life of me understand how someone who truly loves music and creativity can defend the reality show trickery and debasement of music.
I don't see how your point and Bob's are mutually exclusive. Bob didn't say those shows are good or fair, he just said Queen might've changed their views about those shows (which seems to be true) because they've exposed a lot of people to their music (which also seems to be true). Something can have a positive commercial effect on Queen while having an overall negative effect in the music business or music artistry in general. |
|
|
|
Post by The Real Wizard on Dec 1, 2020 1:15:02 GMT
Look here Bob, I agree with you on a lot of points, but when it comes to these reality shows, you're just plain wrong. First of all, they are generally rigged - not only are the winners generally picked in advance, frequently, they actually *plant* people they've deliberately recruited - professionals who are not yet well-known. Second of all, they are essentially the successor to the boy band/girl band-model of the late '80s and '90s, with the same result - total control for the record company and the producers, more dulling down of the music and a steady stream of glorified elevator music as a product, the 'artist' (poster boy/girl) to be discarded ASAP so the next hype can be manufactured.
I cannot for the life of me understand how someone who truly loves music and creativity can defend the reality show trickery and debasement of music.
I don't see how your point and Bob's are mutually exclusive. Bob didn't say those shows are good or fair, he just said Queen might've changed their views about those shows (which seems to be true) because they've exposed a lot of people to their music (which also seems to be true). Something can have a positive commercial effect on Queen while having an overall negative effect in the music business or music artistry in general. Exactly - I wasn't offering a commentary about the shows themselves.
Of course the majority of what these music game shows produce and stand for is terrible for society as a whole, but for Brian and Roger it worked out pretty well. A broken clock's right twice a day, after all.
|
|
|
|
Post by ThomasQuinn on Dec 2, 2020 10:33:49 GMT
Well, if that's your line, then I'm afraid my opinion is that you're taking too narrow a view. In the long run, I think the association will do more harm than good to Queen's name. A brief boost in name-recognition but a permanent association with some of the worst aspects of the music industy.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2020 17:25:07 GMT
Well, as you say, that's more in the long run (perhaps the film would also qualify there). If (when?) it ends backfiring at some point, odds are Maylor will be long gone by then, so they don't really seem to care about that.
|
|
cmsdrums
Dragonfly Trumpeter
Posts: 171
Likes: 188
|
Post by cmsdrums on Apr 14, 2021 15:22:51 GMT
I don’t know where the idea came from that Jamie didn’t want to do the Q&AL work - he and Brian have both consistently told the same versions of events that Brian decided he wanted to go out with just him on guitar this time around as he’d built up more confidence again over the previous few years, and so a second guitarist just wasn’t needed/desired.
|
|
eiricd
Dragonfly Trumpeter
Posts: 162
Likes: 71
|
Post by eiricd on Apr 29, 2021 7:28:15 GMT
I don’t know where the idea came from that Jamie didn’t want to do the Q&AL work - he and Brian have both consistently told the same versions of events that Brian decided he wanted to go out with just him on guitar this time around as he’d built up more confidence again over the previous few years, and so a second guitarist just wasn’t needed/desired. if memory serves, Jamie did an interview recently where he briefly talked about how he wasn't approached for the lambert era. Brian didn't want an extra guitarist. also - jamie revealed that in 2005 he offered his services as a bass player for QPR, and at the last minute BM/RT changed their mind and decided to have him as a second guitarist instead. anyhow; dunno why Danny wasn't part of 2011 onwards. If there's any dirt, he's too much of a class act to tell. As someone said above; he's been working for decades, no accident... As a singing bass player though, Danny fits the bill, and he obviously worked well with BM/RT from 2005-2008. So don't know why they would replace him... Is Neil the superior singer and wants less money? |
|
n39
Ploughman
Posts: 309
Likes: 248
|
Post by n39 on Apr 29, 2021 9:24:07 GMT
I don’t know where the idea came from that Jamie didn’t want to do the Q&AL work - he and Brian have both consistently told the same versions of events that Brian decided he wanted to go out with just him on guitar this time around as he’d built up more confidence again over the previous few years, and so a second guitarist just wasn’t needed/desired. if memory serves, Jamie did an interview recently where he briefly talked about how he wasn't approached for the lambert era. Brian didn't want an extra guitarist. also - jamie revealed that in 2005 he offered his services as a bass player for QPR, and at the last minute BM/RT changed their mind and decided to have him as a second guitarist instead. anyhow; dunno why Danny wasn't part of 2011 onwards. If there's any dirt, he's too much of a class act to tell. As someone said above; he's been working for decades, no accident... As a singing bass player though, Danny fits the bill, and he obviously worked well with BM/RT from 2005-2008. So don't know why they would replace him... Is Neil the superior singer and wants less money? Not a clue if Danny Miranda is a good singer, but Neil Fairclough is an outstanding singer. Listen to his and Tyler's vocal covers of Queen tracks on YouTube. He slots in perfectly with the vocal harmonies, and is definitely strong enough to be a lead singer. |
|
eiricd
Dragonfly Trumpeter
Posts: 162
Likes: 71
|
Post by eiricd on Apr 30, 2021 8:04:49 GMT
Neil is indeed a good singer, as evident by the video with Tyler Warren. (the latter is a GERAT singer - easily the best rock singer in Qal)
|
|
n39
Ploughman
Posts: 309
Likes: 248
|
Post by n39 on Apr 30, 2021 10:37:53 GMT
Neil is indeed a good singer, as evident by the video with Tyler Warren. (the latter is a GERAT singer - easily the best rock singer in Qal) Yes, agreed, Tyler is simply unmatched. He could easily front Queen with no problems at all, a killer voice and very versatile in different styles. A pity he doesn't take the lead for a few songs in the setlist, he's more than capable. |
|
Nowadays, even Bri or Roger hardly can say anything wrong about these kind of shows.
