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Post by The Real Wizard on Apr 11, 2020 9:13:33 GMT
Some of you may have seen these images when they popped up last year, sadly on a trash celebrity website that watermarked it:
They even cropped page two:
But our good pal Jumeteor just sent me this unwatermarked copy:
However, page 1 is a bit out of focus. Where did these different versions come from, and has anyone got clean scans handy?
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Post by fcb101 on Apr 11, 2020 14:33:57 GMT
Awesome! Handwritten setlist of one of their very best shows 😁
Hotel!!
Gotta love that!
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Post by Chief Mouse on Apr 11, 2020 20:05:01 GMT
Can't help with new scans. But.. is this better?   |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Apr 11, 2020 20:21:29 GMT
Can't help with new scans. But.. is this better? Chief - that literally put a chill through my spine.
You are brilliant at what you do.
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Post by moonhead on Apr 11, 2020 21:06:17 GMT
I'm speechless... what a treasure! Thanks guys!
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Post by Chopin1995 on Apr 11, 2020 22:39:26 GMT
That's wonderful! Thanks for sharing and restoring  |
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Post by jazz78 on Apr 12, 2020 14:00:03 GMT
What a fantastic piece of Queen history here!!!!!
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Post by QueenMan95 on Apr 12, 2020 14:46:43 GMT
Thanks for sharing this. What an incredible beginning for this site. I'm speechless.
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Post by vh on Apr 12, 2020 19:49:27 GMT
Wow brilliant.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Apr 12, 2020 22:04:58 GMT
What a fantastic piece of Queen history here!!!!! Great to see you here. Your avatar made smile.
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Post by jazz78 on Apr 13, 2020 10:36:26 GMT
Thank you Bob!!!!1 I'm more than happy to be here and make any contributions I can with my knowledge of Queen since I've been a fan since 1977. I'll return your message on Messenger soon enough sir!!!
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Post by ogre on Apr 15, 2020 21:21:08 GMT
This setlist is marked as a fake heavily discussed on facebook at the time of the auction
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Post by foetus on Apr 16, 2020 15:25:57 GMT
This setlist is marked as a fake heavily discussed on facebook at the time of the auction can you tell us more?  |
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Post by Steve on Apr 16, 2020 17:20:13 GMT
This setlist is marked as a fake heavily discussed on facebook at the time of the auction can you tell us more? If they are fake, then that is disappointing. |
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Post by ogre on Apr 17, 2020 8:52:10 GMT
This setlist is marked as a fake heavily discussed on facebook at the time of the auction can you tell us more? Check facebook www.facebook.com/groups/858266844192728/This group Queen Autographs- Buy with Confidence on facebook then search for Copenhagen you will see the topic. Also some co workers of the band stated this was a false. |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Apr 18, 2020 0:48:55 GMT
This setlist is marked as a fake heavily discussed on facebook at the time of the auction Disappointing, if true.
FWIW, it originally did come with a "certificate of authenticity":
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Post by foetus on Apr 18, 2020 15:52:58 GMT
It wouldn't be the first time a "certificate of authenticity" is bullshit.
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Post by mrscully on Apr 20, 2020 13:12:15 GMT
It's a well known fake (and Jacky's worthless certificate sort of adds the cream on the top it because most fake autographs incl. the poor ones are accompanied by such a fan club certificate).
Freddie has never ever written a setlist when they already had roadies for that kind of work. Peter Hince always wrote a setlist and copied it for other roadies and band members (I have one such setlist in my collection). I spoke to Peter about this Copenhagen setlist and he has confirmed that it's crap.
Btw. we think this is the same forger who faked the Princes Of The Universe handwritte lyrics. He is good, he knows very well Freddie's handwriting but it's absolutely impossible to fake such a long document without making many mistakes. (The fact that Freddie has never written any setlists after, I don't know, year 1974, is just one of the proofs).
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Post by The Real Wizard on Apr 21, 2020 23:36:15 GMT
Freddie has never ever written a setlist when they already had roadies for that kind of work. Peter Hince always wrote a setlist and copied it for other roadies and band members (I have one such setlist in my collection). I spoke to Peter about this Copenhagen setlist and he has confirmed that it's crap. Interesting. Thanks for clarifying. But this varies from band to band. Lots of musicians write out their own setlists, so there was little inherent reason to doubt this was genuine.
And we also are relying on Hince's memory, and 40 year old memories aren't always intact. It's possible he didn't do the setlist every night and that a band member did it now and again.
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Post by mrscully on Apr 22, 2020 8:55:25 GMT
Yes, Peter's memory may be failing but in this case it's an obvious fake. It's a *very good* attempt at Freddie's handwriting (and I also hesitated at first when I saw it last year) but it's impossible to fake more than a couple of words. No person in the world can fake such a long text without making and repeating some obvious mistakes. This isn't Freddie's handwriting and that's a better proof than Peter Hince's memory ;-)
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Post by Steve on Apr 22, 2020 9:31:49 GMT
This setlist is marked as a fake heavily discussed on facebook at the time of the auction Disappointing, if true.
FWIW, it originally did come with a "certificate of authenticity":
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Post by The Real Wizard on Apr 22, 2020 18:37:12 GMT
Yes, Peter's memory may be failing but in this case it's an obvious fake. It's a *very good* attempt at Freddie's handwriting (and I also hesitated at first when I saw it last year) but it's impossible to fake more than a couple of words. No person in the world can fake such a long text without making and repeating some obvious mistakes. This isn't Freddie's handwriting and that's a better proof than Peter Hince's memory ;-) Fair enough. I'll trust your expertise on this one.
And the fact that it dropped on the trashy tabloid website TMZ and not in Rolling Stone is probably a good indicator too.
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Post by pg on May 8, 2020 17:57:55 GMT
The easiest thing to fake is the CoA...
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