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Post by Raseraa on Nov 20, 2020 23:42:22 GMT
This is absolutely terrible! They've made the audio and video quality 100x worse like they always do. Why hasn't somebody stopped Hernan Snow yet?! How haven't they gotten into any kind of trouble with QPL yet?
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Post by littlequeenie97 on Nov 21, 2020 3:08:08 GMT
I'm surprised QPL hasnt sued him, this is Even illegal
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Post by velizar on Nov 21, 2020 8:06:28 GMT
What the fuck is that crap?!
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Post by Dimitris on Nov 21, 2020 9:51:59 GMT
I'm surprised QPL hasnt sued him, this is Even illegal I wonder the same, in the recent TV program Queen Greatest moments, during the playing of some live footage on copyright , snow productions is mentioned... Probably no one in Queen or in the publishing company cares. At 27:50 min : m.youtube.com/watch?v=qm3dXbhr9GE&t=2969s
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Post by Sakura4anime25 on Nov 22, 2020 1:05:07 GMT
Oh gosh, even on my crummy laptop speakers I could hear that the sound is awful!
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Post by highlander on Nov 22, 2020 2:01:06 GMT
I'm surprised QPL hasnt sued him, this is Even illegal I wonder the same, in the recent TV program Queen Greatest moments, during the playing of some live footage on copyright , snow productions is mentioned... Probably no one in Queen or in the publishing company cares. At 27:50 min : m.youtube.com/watch?v=qm3dXbhr9GE&t=2969sI have noticed that too!
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Post by Rainbow61 on Nov 22, 2020 5:50:43 GMT
A couple days ago I looked for Chief Mouse's Live Aid restoration of Queen's performance on YouTube and was very disappointed to not find it. I ended up watching another version, quite inferior in comparison. How disappointing!
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Post by Raseraa on Nov 22, 2020 9:12:47 GMT
It was blocked by "Queen + Adam Lambert Tour." I posted the Rainbow Concert and a "pre pitch correction" version and also the Hammersmith Concert also with the "Pre overdubbed" version. A few other concerts I uploaded were blocked as well by the same thing. I even disputed the claims and they rejected them.
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Post by Steve on Nov 22, 2020 18:41:19 GMT
Chief's version is FAR superior.
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Post by Raseraa on Nov 22, 2020 19:50:44 GMT
Chief's version is FAR superior. Of course his version is better. Snow Productions/My Queen Collection just steals official material or other people's content and destroys the video and audio quality and sells it for most likely a higher price (don't quote me on that last bit).
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Post by The Real Wizard on Nov 23, 2020 0:38:57 GMT
I'm surprised QPL hasnt sued him, this is Even illegal I wonder the same, in the recent TV program Queen Greatest moments, during the playing of some live footage on copyright , snow productions is mentioned... Probably no one in Queen or in the publishing company cares. At 27:50 min : m.youtube.com/watch?v=qm3dXbhr9GE&t=2969sHis dreams are coming true - his little scam operation run out of his parents' basement finally appears as something legitimate.
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Post by Raseraa on Nov 23, 2020 1:34:48 GMT
I wonder the same, in the recent TV program Queen Greatest moments, during the playing of some live footage on copyright , snow productions is mentioned... Probably no one in Queen or in the publishing company cares. At 27:50 min : m.youtube.com/watch?v=qm3dXbhr9GE&t=2969sHis dreams are coming true - his little scam operation run out of his parents' basement finally appears as something legitimate.
Lmfao! I wonder what his living conditions are, haha!
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Post by The Real Wizard on Nov 23, 2020 5:07:55 GMT
His dreams are coming true - his little scam operation run out of his parents' basement finally appears as something legitimate.
Lmfao! I wonder what his living conditions are, haha! For me it's just a figure of speech, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were true.
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Post by Dimitris on Nov 23, 2020 7:42:56 GMT
Lmfao! I wonder what his living conditions are, haha! For me it's just a figure of speech, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were true.
Probably the producers of the program used footage from YT. But in my opinion, if Queen wanted to have at least good documentaries or programs about them, they should ask and use their fans. There are fans here who could do fabulous work.
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Post by dysan on Nov 23, 2020 11:30:42 GMT
It was blocked by "Queen + Adam Lambert Tour." I posted the Rainbow Concert and a "pre pitch correction" version and also the Hammersmith Concert also with the "Pre overdubbed" version. A few other concerts I uploaded were blocked as well by the same thing. I even disputed the claims and they rejected them. But when he does it it's bad? Not picking on you, just genuinely interested in the contradictions that present themselves in threads like this.
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Post by ThomasQuinn on Nov 23, 2020 11:42:30 GMT
It was blocked by "Queen + Adam Lambert Tour." I posted the Rainbow Concert and a "pre pitch correction" version and also the Hammersmith Concert also with the "Pre overdubbed" version. A few other concerts I uploaded were blocked as well by the same thing. I even disputed the claims and they rejected them. But when he does it it's bad? Not picking on you, just genuinely interested in the contradictions that present themselves in threads like this. Snow *sells* bootlegs (that he steals from others). You're equating the sharing of content that's in a grey area (alternative versions of officially released concerts, cf. radio broadcast of Milton Keynes), which *may or may not* fall under 'fair use', with the SALE of bootlegs, which is illegal.
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Post by dysan on Nov 23, 2020 12:05:59 GMT
I agree fully and understand, but look at where we have stood for the last decade or so with Amazon and every other official outlet selling bootleg material. Look at what the rules say about sharing stuff on here and how they are easily sidestepped. What it boils down to is "I'm ok because it's a grey area, but what he's doing is wrong because it's also a grey area"
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Nov 23, 2020 12:14:59 GMT
What it boils down to is "I'm ok because it's a grey area, but what he's doing is wrong because it's also a grey area" but where between Gainsboro and Charcoal do we draw the grey line
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Post by dave76 on Nov 23, 2020 12:17:44 GMT
This asshole's been doing this for decades. I remember i shared an unreleased Freddie 1995 docu with the fans 6 years ago. Within days it appeared on his website for sale. That's how it goes people, like Headlong, nothing you can do about it. I agree with everyone here. Our chief does fabulous work but sadly there's also people like Hernan Snow on the lookout to rip it, redo the artwork and then try to sell it. It's sad but that's just the way it goes. And with him many others are doing this. But i agree with everyone here.
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Post by Sakura4anime25 on Nov 23, 2020 13:26:51 GMT
I agree fully and understand, but look at where we have stood for the last decade or so with Amazon and every other official outlet selling bootleg material. Look at what the rules say about sharing stuff on here and how they are easily sidestepped. What it boils down to is "I'm ok because it's a grey area, but what he's doing is wrong because it's also a grey area" Yeah, bootleg/counterfeit products are sold on Amazon, and I think it's wrong for them to do that too. But Amazon easily gets away with it/doesn't care because they are so big and powerful. I mean people have found counterfeit makeup on Amazon, which is very DANGEROUS (some people have apparently nearly gone blind or such from using counterfeit makeup) and they should NOT be selling stuff like that, though admittedly of course makeup is a very different example from music. In my opinion, what this person is doing (taking someone else's work and claiming it as their own and *selling* it as a bootleg) is very clearly much more "wrong" than what Chief Mouse did with his restoration, though of course some may disagree.
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Post by Raf on Nov 23, 2020 14:22:39 GMT
His dreams are coming true - his little scam operation run out of his parents' basement finally appears as something legitimate.
Lmfao! I wonder what his living conditions are, haha! Maybe this is a huge coincidence, but when you google "Snow Producciones", the first result is this Argentinian wedding photography studio called "Snow Producciones" and run by Romina and Hernan. Apparently that's how he makes a living, when he isn't profiting on Queen's music and other fans' audio/video magic.
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Post by Raf on Nov 23, 2020 14:25:52 GMT
I agree fully and understand, but look at where we have stood for the last decade or so with Amazon and every other official outlet selling bootleg material. Look at what the rules say about sharing stuff on here and how they are easily sidestepped. What it boils down to is "I'm ok because it's a grey area, but what he's doing is wrong because it's also a grey area" Yeah, bootleg/counterfeit products are sold on Amazon, and I think it's wrong for them to do that too. But Amazon easily gets away with it/doesn't care because they are so big and powerful. I mean people have found counterfeit makeup on Amazon, which is very DANGEROUS (some people have apparently nearly gone blind or such from using counterfeit makeup) and they should NOT be selling stuff like that, though admittedly of course makeup is a very different example from music. In my opinion, what this person is doing (taking someone else's work and claiming it as their own and *selling* it as a bootleg) is very clearly much more "wrong" than what Chief Mouse did with his restoration, though of course some may disagree. Perhaps bands and record labels just don't care enough (?). It might be on a legal grey area, but any major label could pressure Amazon into dropping this kind of bullshit by threatening to remove their entire catalogue from Amazon Music. If just one major label does that, it would already leave Amazon in poor conditions to compete with Spotify, Deezer, Apple Music etc.
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Post by dysan on Nov 23, 2020 16:32:57 GMT
What it boils down to is "I'm ok because it's a grey area, but what he's doing is wrong because it's also a grey area" but where between Gainsboro and Charcoal do we draw the grey line Haha
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Post by velizar on Nov 23, 2020 22:33:31 GMT
Should we trust the old Mr. Snow?
I don't think so.
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Post by lewisakkas on Nov 24, 2020 7:20:32 GMT
i wonder where he got the live aid stems from?
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Post by rub3945 on Nov 24, 2020 9:45:49 GMT
Those stems have been taken straight from the movie. The phrasing in "share of sand kicked in my face" in the WATC performance was edited to match Rami's mouth movements and that same edit appears on Snow's example there. For accuracy alone, Chief's is superior...
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Post by hronotide on Nov 24, 2020 10:47:02 GMT
Should we trust the old Mr. Snow? I don't think so. i wonder where he got the live aid stems from? This is not a multitrack. It’s ordinary isolation. Just listen the quality of Freddie’s vocals here: youtu.be/HJX4XN-6oZ8 - this is the original sound from Freddie’s microphone from Montreal And this is isolation from Live Aid: mega.nz/folder/LihHAaLT#vwngNTvWY1s0pUAc9p1qPQJust compare))
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Post by Emmanuel on Nov 29, 2020 17:53:34 GMT
This is absolutely terrible! They've made the audio and video quality 100x worse like they always do. Why hasn't somebody stopped Hernan Snow yet?! How haven't they gotten into any kind of trouble with QPL yet? ew, bad saturation and stolen
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Post by RhapsodiaBohemia on Dec 1, 2020 0:38:31 GMT
Snow seems to be deleting comments that say this was stolen from CM... He's trying to get away with this but is making it a bit too obvious this was stolen
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Post by The Real Wizard on Dec 2, 2020 4:20:05 GMT
Snow seems to be deleting comments that say this was stolen from CM... He's trying to get away with this but is making it a bit too obvious this was stolen Perfect - keep pounding the pavement then. If enough people keep posting the truth, then he may lose business or even quit altogether.
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