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Post by Lord Fickle on Dec 2, 2020 21:55:16 GMT
Just thought it might be interesting to see how many here would take the vaccine, when it's offered? Voting is anonymous, unless you wish to say how you voted in a post.
I have to admit, I'm slightly nervous that it's all been pushed through so quickly, but I probably would have it, as it's the only way we're going to be able to start getting back to some sort of normality.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Dec 2, 2020 22:55:03 GMT
in a heatbeat. it's a no-brainer.
comparatively, it appears (on the surface) to have been done quickly. but in reality it hasn't. 1. the scientific world has known what Covid is about since it's first appearance almost 50 years ago. "19" is another strain of it, so they knew what they were working toward as soon as the first cases occurred this time last year. 2. most (straightforward) vaccines are 3yrs+ in the making. however, this year has been different. every Lab, Drug Company and Research Organisation has been working to the same goal. Many ongoing researches and vaccine programs - and the work (so far) have been temporarily shelved during 2020 to focus solely on Covid.
I think that once we take into account volume of percentage of World focus and work on this, the 9 months probably equates to about 5yrs+ of normal time.
and, even if it's only 80-95% effective, I'd rather take that chance than the alternative. it's an 80-95% better chance of being okay isn't it?
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Post by georg on Dec 3, 2020 1:42:10 GMT
Once it’s offered to me (late 30s, relatively good health, so I expect one by my birthday in July) I will absolutely be getting it. In fact, “Yes, probably” isn’t strong enough an option to convey how gung-ho I am for this vaccine.
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Post by katydyd5 on Dec 3, 2020 2:46:50 GMT
Yes, yes, yes. I was initially a little apprehensive, but things are so bad here in the US that I don't see a return to normalcy until there is mass vaccination. Count me in.
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Post by staysweet on Dec 3, 2020 2:49:50 GMT
Yes, I’ll take it. The acceleration was not in the evidence of clinical efficacy, it was the elimination of excessive paperwork and ridiculously long reviews times by the regulatory agencies.
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Post by pg on Dec 3, 2020 17:12:57 GMT
It was quick because every government and drug company was 100% focused on it, not because any corners were cut.
I'm happy to take it (in the UK by the time they finish category 1, the over 85s and health care, ill be in category 9 - the over 50s), but don't expect to get the option until mid 2021.
I do have lingering questions about unknown long term side effects, but not enough to risk catching covid in the next 10 years while we wait for long term side effects to appear...
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Post by Lord Fickle on Dec 3, 2020 17:25:49 GMT
It was quick because every government and drug company was 100% focused on it, not because any corners were cut. I'm happy to take it (in the UK by the time they finish category 1, the over 85s and health care, ill be in category 9 - the over 50s), but don't expect to get the option until mid 2021. I do have lingering questions about unknown long term side effects, but not enough to risk catching covid in the next 10 years while we wait for long term side effects to appear... So what if someone is group 8, but cares for a person who would be in group 6? Hopefully there would be some flexibility according to circumstances, as there wouldn't be much point in one having the vaccine but not the other.
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Post by pg on Dec 3, 2020 23:02:58 GMT
I suspect that there will be some overlaps, and therefore logically, some gaps or rather perceived inconsistencies.
I didn't mean to suggest that I was beating a path to the queue, merely that I'd take it when my turn comes.
Until then, I'll continue to live as sensibly as I can, instead of demanding to be allowed to go to pubs like it was written into Magna bloody Carta...
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Post by Lord Fickle on Dec 4, 2020 0:07:54 GMT
I'm 56 and whilst I don't have serious underlying health issues, I do suffer from asthma occasionally, and am quite generously proportioned, so contracting the virus has not been high on my agenda for the last eight months. For those of us on the edge of being higher risk, it's going to be quite an agonising wait for our vaccinations.
My worry is that I don't think they quite know yet if the vaccination stops asymptomatic transmission of the virus, so if a large proportion of the population (under 50s) remains unvaccinated, that could still pose quite a risk for some of us.
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Post by pg on Dec 4, 2020 8:33:49 GMT
I know what you mean, but the vaccine stopping transmission is no help if the youth are unvaccinated! You'll have to avoid them for a little longer...
You make a good point about being on the cusp - my only other risk factors are being male and overweight, so I should be after you in the queue, but it seems inevitable that unless GPs are given allocations for "at risk, irrespective of age" and your GP includes you in that, you'll be in the same batch as me with no underlying conditions.
We can only hope that's in time, hence in the interim I'm treating everyone except the wife as a leper!
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Post by georg on Dec 4, 2020 14:54:06 GMT
I know what you mean, but the vaccine stopping transmission is no help if the youth are unvaccinated! You'll have to avoid them for a little longer... You make a good point about being on the cusp - my only other risk factors are being male and overweight, so I should be after you in the queue, but it seems inevitable that unless GPs are given allocations for "at risk, irrespective of age" and your GP includes you in that, you'll be in the same batch as me with no underlying conditions. We can only hope that's in time, hence in the interim I'm treating everyone except the wife as a leper!So not much has changed then, eh pg?
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Post by Nuppiz on Dec 4, 2020 16:39:24 GMT
Yeah, I probably will. Although I have my doubts about rushed-out vaccines (notably the 2009 swine flu vaccine which caused en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemrix#Adverse_outcomes), I work in the healthcare sector in an office job which kind of guarantees I'm in the first batch of people who will be receiving a vaccine in this country. And it seems it's the only way we'll be able to return to "normal life".
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Post by stevendabudgie on Dec 5, 2020 23:41:29 GMT
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Post by pg on Dec 6, 2020 8:34:10 GMT
Yeah, I probably will. Although I have my doubts about rushed-out vaccines (notably the 2009 swine flu vaccine which caused en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemrix#Adverse_outcomes), I work in the healthcare sector in an office job which kind of guarantees I'm in the first batch of people who will be receiving a vaccine in this country. And it seems it's the only way we'll be able to return to "normal life". Interesting link. It isn't clear how soon the narcolepsy came to light, which is clearly relevant to your point, but it seems to have affected 5 people per 100,000. Currently, 100s of people per 100,000 are getting Covid in the UK. So, while I share your nagging doubt, I see the example you gave of why it's still worth taking!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2020 19:33:06 GMT
Absolutely. I know odds of Covid seriously affecting me are low (even though it's also killed or heavily impacted people with much better health than mine), but I don't wanna risk being asymptomatic and unknowingly infecting my dad, my aunts and uncles, my friends' parents or grandparents, etc.
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Post by cmsdrums on Dec 7, 2020 21:32:46 GMT
Yeah, I probably will. Although I have my doubts about rushed-out vaccines (notably the 2009 swine flu vaccine which caused en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemrix#Adverse_outcomes), I work in the healthcare sector in an office job which kind of guarantees I'm in the first batch of people who will be receiving a vaccine in this country. And it seems it's the only way we'll be able to return to "normal life". The vaccine has not been “rushed out”. It has been made available once, and only when, it has been through extensive development, massive testing volumes, and strict independent verification and approval. The several strands of development, testing trials, manufacturing, approval etc have taken place concurrently rather than one after another, and funding and approval has been prioritised beyond normal timelines, which is why the beginning to end process has been contracted - no “rushing” at all. There has been no corners cut and nothing not done that would normally happen during drug development - in fact the vaccine has seen more testing than most other drugs/vaccines.
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Post by pg on Dec 7, 2020 21:51:27 GMT
I'd be interested to read what the one person who voted no has to say ref: their reasons.
However, I'd understand their reticence to do so.
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Post by Doughnut on Dec 20, 2020 9:32:05 GMT
Yes yes yes although as I am under age 50 I won’t be getting it anytime soon .
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