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Post by qlc on Mar 20, 2021 22:40:02 GMT
When the Ally Pally Super8 saw the light of day, I instantly though of the promo video, then I looked back at it then rewatched the first 13 seconds. I asked Raseraa to make a comparison, and it matches. The first 8 seconds don't match up because the footage is too slow. A corrected version might actually prove that it's 100% from the show. Here's a few screenshots on what a corrected version would look like on a comparison(by "corrected", I mean speed corrected version/sync)     Raseraa's comparison (super8 slightly slow)https://youtu.be/dKVGLo8RN3E Here's my reasons on why I believe it's from the show: - Camera flash roughly the exact same moment at 0:07, in reality they're at the exact same movement. Read below. - Audience in the promo video (barely visible, but they're there) - Camera flashes in the promo video - Exact same movements The super8 is playing at the wrong speed, only slightly. There's a few milliseconds off and you can see him doing the movements in the super8 the exact same ones he does on the promo video, just a bit delayed. It finally syncs towards the end. |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Mar 21, 2021 0:29:23 GMT
- Camera flash roughly the exact same moment at 0:07, in reality they're at the exact same movement. Even that alone is enough evidence.
Good sleuthing.
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Post by littlequeenie97 on Mar 21, 2021 0:52:57 GMT
I always thought thats from the show, its great to finally have that proven!
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Post by NathanH on Mar 21, 2021 11:58:44 GMT
I wonder whether this has got anything to do with the director who fell into the orchestra pit during the filming of the promotional video? Whether they lacked direction with the stage shots so the band and the crew decided just to get some shots from the actual concert?
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Post by dysan on Mar 21, 2021 12:21:23 GMT
I must admit I always assumed it was from the show. Has it been actually denied anywhere?
Fun fact: The director also took the famous 'dress' cover of Bowie's Man Who Sold The World and several early Sabbath covers.
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Post by Frank on Mar 21, 2021 12:30:57 GMT
This is great. Thanks for confirming this, qlc!
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Post by Jakelic on Mar 21, 2021 17:42:45 GMT
I used my sunday afternoon to make a definitive proof.  In this gif you can clearly catch the sync of the photo flash that completely lights up the piano keys, but if you follow the red arrow you'll see that Ally Pally footage even manages to catch the previous flash in one frame only, the one visible as a blue reflection of the microphone stand in the video is actually also seen in the cups on the piano. Time was wapred to 106% to fit the original and synced to the piano track as Freddie leads in a few miliseconds early with his "it started off". Anyway, here is the stabilised video comparison for everyone's enjoyment! cheers! |
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Post by dysan on Mar 21, 2021 19:02:49 GMT
Love this. This is like people analysing the Zapruder film frame by frame. Good work!
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Post by Frank on Mar 21, 2021 19:57:42 GMT
Yep. This proves it. We're definitely dorks. Great job, everyone (especially qlc and Jakelic)!  |
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Post by Jakelic on Mar 21, 2021 20:09:04 GMT
I'm an 8mm dork and a Zapruder fan! You guys got me spot on haha.
I do love those detective moments, after this and the Millard tape controversy, I can't wait for the next case!
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Post by The Real Wizard on Mar 21, 2021 20:47:43 GMT
Love this. This is like people analysing the Zapruder film frame by frame. Good work! Perfect analogy.
Threads like this are why I love this place. It's great to finally have a proper Queen forum where these kinds of enterprising sleuths can work their magic unabated.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Mar 21, 2021 20:48:37 GMT
I wonder whether this has got anything to do with the director who fell into the orchestra pit during the filming of the promotional video? First I've heard of this ! Is this documented anywhere ?
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Post by Chinwonder2 on Mar 21, 2021 21:03:05 GMT
I wonder whether this has got anything to do with the director who fell into the orchestra pit during the filming of the promotional video? First I've heard of this ! Is this documented anywhere ?
Brian and Roger mention it during their commentary on the Save Me MV on Greatest Video Hits 1 at 2:31. -Chin |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Mar 21, 2021 22:05:06 GMT
First I've heard of this ! Is this documented anywhere ?
Brian and Roger mention it during their commentary on the Save Me MV on Greatest Video Hits 1 at 2:31. -Chin Thanks.
Wow - it must've been a serious fall if Roger is comparing it to Zappa. That put Frank out of commission for quite some time, and his voice never fully recovered from it.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Mar 21, 2021 22:06:39 GMT
and the Millard tape controversy Which one particularly ?
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Post by Jakelic on Mar 21, 2021 22:10:44 GMT
and the Millard tape controversy Which one particularly ? this one
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Post by The Real Wizard on Mar 22, 2021 1:15:59 GMT
Right ! Wasn't it concluded that the video is from March 2nd ?
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Post by littlequeenie97 on Mar 22, 2021 1:25:47 GMT
Right ! Wasn't it concluded that the video is from March 2nd ?
Yeah, i think so |
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Post by Jakelic on Mar 22, 2021 1:49:45 GMT
Right ! Wasn't it concluded that the video is from March 2nd ? sure was check your own website! I was very glad you included this link there. |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Mar 22, 2021 1:51:24 GMT
Right ! Wasn't it concluded that the video is from March 2nd ? sure was check your own website! ha ! But of course.
Sometimes I just want to check in - you guys know a whole lot that I don't. It takes a village.
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Post by Jakelic on Mar 22, 2021 1:54:48 GMT
sure was check your own website! ha ! But of course. Sometimes I just want to check in - you guys know a whole lot that I don't. It takes a village.
Love for Queen and Freddie binds us all |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Mar 22, 2021 2:40:37 GMT
Amen.
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Post by Mercury Roadrunner on Mar 25, 2021 22:38:25 GMT
friends, just a little addition if you would like - one more proof Save Me Promo Video was shot in Ally Pally (and also some bits and pieces were shot in Rainbow) was made by Peter Freestone just yesterday in a second part of my interview with him as it was the first video he was presented on - the details are coming sometime soon in a thread ; )
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Post by fcb101 on Mar 26, 2021 14:53:35 GMT
friends, just a little addition if you would like - one more proof Save Me Promo Video was shot in Ally Pally (and also some bits and pieces were shot in Rainbow) was made by Peter Freestone just yesterday in a second part of my interview with him as it was the first video he was presented on - the details are coming sometime soon in a thread ; ) Looking forward to that additional information. First time I hear about filming for Save me taking place at the Rainbow theatre! P.S.: I keep hoping there's more concert footage from Ally Pally. Would be so great to have more Crazy Tour footage |
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Post by mrmarioanonym on Mar 26, 2021 17:04:25 GMT
friends, just a little addition if you would like - one more proof Save Me Promo Video was shot in Ally Pally (and also some bits and pieces were shot in Rainbow) was made by Peter Freestone just yesterday in a second part of my interview with him as it was the first video he was presented on - the details are coming sometime soon in a thread ; ) Looking forward to that additional information. First time I hear about filming for Save me taking place at the Rainbow theatre! P.S.: I keep hoping there's more concert footage from Ally Pally. Would be so great to have more Crazy Tour footage With how expensive film was/is, i doubt there's much more. |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Mar 30, 2021 20:47:12 GMT
friends, just a little addition if you would like - one more proof Save Me Promo Video was shot in Ally Pally (and also some bits and pieces were shot in Rainbow) was made by Peter Freestone just yesterday in a second part of my interview with him as it was the first video he was presented on - the details are coming sometime soon in a thread ; ) I'd take that with a pinch of salt. Hiring a film crew wasn't cheap, and I doubt they'd pay for it twice to film a single song.
It was over 40 years ago, and perhaps Peter is mixing up the venues.
But of course anything is possible.
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Post by alepisa on Mar 31, 2021 11:01:19 GMT
The video for the song was filmed at Alexandra Palace on 22 December 1979 and directed by Keith "Keef" MacMillan
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Post by qlc on Mar 31, 2021 12:14:05 GMT
friends, just a little addition if you would like - one more proof Save Me Promo Video was shot in Ally Pally (and also some bits and pieces were shot in Rainbow) was made by Peter Freestone just yesterday in a second part of my interview with him as it was the first video he was presented on - the details are coming sometime soon in a thread ; ) I'd take that with a pinch of salt. Hiring a film crew wasn't cheap, and I doubt they'd pay for it twice to film a single song.
It was over 40 years ago, and perhaps Peter is mixing up the venues.
But of course anything is possible.
That's a very good point, but the fact that Roger said it too in another video that was filmed in Rainbow Theatre, it makes me question really if it was filmed in both venues. |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Mar 31, 2021 17:53:35 GMT
I'd take that with a pinch of salt. Hiring a film crew wasn't cheap, and I doubt they'd pay for it twice to film a single song.
It was over 40 years ago, and perhaps Peter is mixing up the venues.
But of course anything is possible.
That's a very good point, but the fact that Roger said it too in another video that was filmed in Rainbow Theatre, it makes me question really if it was filmed in both venues. Maybe in the Greatest Hits DVD commentary ? I don't have it handy.
To have Roger corroborate the story is substantial. Maybe it was a safety net to book the crew twice (paying a deposit or a retainer for the second night just in case) because soundcheck takes up so much of the afternoon. And besides, they were pretty rich by then.
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Post by jo on Apr 1, 2021 2:35:26 GMT
Both Brian and Roger indicate in the GH1 Video commentary that it was filmed at the Rainbow. They further indicate it was the same stage that Zappa fell into the orchestra pit, which was at the Rainbow
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