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Post by queenfanatic on Apr 22, 2021 7:05:32 GMT
 the earliest possible date for this flyer is likely dated to be September 1970 (As the party seems to be a secondary school/university arrangement, emphasis on the phrase "end of term"), but if it's from October or even November, it's interesting that the name was still being given to them as late as then. I did hear about when the band were Not sure who the group Zebedees are. Their website claims they were only active from July 7, 1973 to April 15, 1974. There was also a band named Smile active in 1973 (I believe The Marquee Club listed a band named Smile to have performed in January 1973), but November 26 is on a Monday in 1973, so that band name is likely a different band who happened to have the same name. |
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Post by oreno on Apr 22, 2021 12:52:35 GMT
Interesting, not listed on the usual sites. They were billed as Smile at several pre-booked gigs even late in 1970, specifically the 14th Nov date where they (falsely) claimed to have only changed the name after the Cavern gig a fortnight earlier. Queenconcerts.comSomeone here will know. Perhaps they cancelled? |
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Post by georg on Apr 22, 2021 15:55:38 GMT
This is undoubtedly 1970, as Air Force didn’t last beyond early 1971 (they reformed in 2015/2016) though the date doesn’t show up on setlist.fm. (And the 26th was indeed a Thursday.) A quick look through setlist.fm doesn’t show any dates for Air Force at the Corn Exchange, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t performed — or maybe it was advertised but canceled? Good find, all the same!
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Post by The Real Wizard on Apr 22, 2021 17:54:42 GMT
This is undoubtedly 1970, as Air Force didn’t last beyond early 1971 (they reformed in 2015/2016) though the date doesn’t show up on setlist.fm. (And the 26th was indeed a Thursday.) A quick look through setlist.fm doesn’t show any dates for Air Force at the Corn Exchange, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t performed — or maybe it was advertised but canceled? Good find, all the same! That, and November 26, 1970 was a Thursday - that's undoubtedly the date.
So is this a previously unknown gig to add to the Queen chronology !? I highly doubt they would've pulled out of a gig opening for Ginger Baker because they band's name changed.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Apr 22, 2021 18:34:56 GMT
my best guess is it's - as other said - 1970, but Queen probably hadn't changed their name at the time the literature, tickets etc were printed.
Yes were at the Corn Exchange the evening before (25th)
as for Air Force, here's their gigs from November of 1970
1970.11.15 Concert with 'AIRFORCE' at GUILDHALL, Plymouth :
1970.11.20 Concert with 'AIRFORCE' at CITY HALL, Leeds :
1970.11.23 Concert with 'AIRFORCE' at TOWN HALL, Birmingham :
1970.11.29 Concert with 'AIRFORCE' at COLSTON HALL, Bristol :
1970.11.30 Concert with 'AIRFORCE' at VICTORIA HALL, Hanley :
looks like the November 26th concert may not have taken place.
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Post by dysan on Apr 22, 2021 18:39:27 GMT
Was probably cancelled. Cambridge isn't a big college town.
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Post by pg on Apr 22, 2021 19:25:06 GMT
Where was this found?
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Apr 22, 2021 20:55:43 GMT
Was probably cancelled. Cambridge isn't a big college town. you posted that without as much of a hint of a smiley or wink? it's here: concerts.fandom.com/wiki/November_26,_1970_Corn_Exchange,_Cambridge,_ENG |
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Post by Mr Mercury on Apr 22, 2021 21:42:41 GMT
This is undoubtedly 1970, as Air Force didn’t last beyond early 1971 (they reformed in 2015/2016) though the date doesn’t show up on setlist.fm. (And the 26th was indeed a Thursday.) A quick look through setlist.fm doesn’t show any dates for Air Force at the Corn Exchange, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t performed — or maybe it was advertised but canceled? Good find, all the same! The other clue to the date is the ticket price. It says 12' 6 (12 shillings and 6 pence). Britain went decimal in February 1971 so it would have said something like £1. |
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Post by dysan on Apr 23, 2021 5:49:29 GMT
Was probably cancelled. Cambridge isn't a big college town. you posted that without as much of a hint of a smiley or wink? Spinal Tap quotes only work with a straight delivery  |
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Apr 23, 2021 6:08:14 GMT
This is undoubtedly 1970, as Air Force didn’t last beyond early 1971 (they reformed in 2015/2016) though the date doesn’t show up on setlist.fm. (And the 26th was indeed a Thursday.) A quick look through setlist.fm doesn’t show any dates for Air Force at the Corn Exchange, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t performed — or maybe it was advertised but canceled? Good find, all the same! The other clue to the date is the ticket price. It says 12' 6 (12 shillings and 6 pence). Britain went decimal in February 1971 so it would have said something like £1. 62½ pence |
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Post by fabiogminero on Apr 23, 2021 7:13:00 GMT
This is undoubtedly 1970, as Air Force didn’t last beyond early 1971 (they reformed in 2015/2016) though the date doesn’t show up on setlist.fm. (And the 26th was indeed a Thursday.) A quick look through setlist.fm doesn’t show any dates for Air Force at the Corn Exchange, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t performed — or maybe it was advertised but canceled? Good find, all the same! That, and November 26, 1970 was a Thursday - that's undoubtedly the date.
So is this a previously unknown gig to add to the Queen chronology !? I highly doubt they would've pulled out of a gig opening for Ginger Baker because they band's name changed.
I agree with you: opening for Baker was an unmissable opportunity for the band. When they performed in Hertford on 14 November 1970 they were billed as Smile because the concert was organized earlier in the year. So it's possible that even on this occasion Queen were referred to as Smile. |
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Post by fabiogminero on Apr 23, 2021 7:46:40 GMT
Barry Mitchell, the bass player with Queen at the time of the gig, just confirmed via Facebook that the show NEVER HAPPENED. Queen didn't performed there that night, as well as Ginger Baker's Air Force.
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Post by Mr Mercury on Apr 23, 2021 9:25:55 GMT
The other clue to the date is the ticket price. It says 12' 6 (12 shillings and 6 pence). Britain went decimal in February 1971 so it would have said something like £1. 62½ pence Cheers for that correction mate  |
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Apr 23, 2021 9:48:10 GMT
Cheers for that correction mate i was one of the generation of kids in education during the UK changeover to decimalisation. I was 8 in 1971 when the new-fangled money, weights and measures were introduced in the UK - so that one year at Junior School was an interesting one...no computers, calculators etc to help us either. On one hand it's good to be able to do things in base 12, 14 16 etc but on the other, it'd be brain capacity that could be freed up for other stuff. |
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Post by dragonkiller on Apr 23, 2021 10:32:07 GMT
Cheers for that correction mate i was one of the generation of kids in education during the UK changeover to decimalisation. I was 8 in 1971 when the new-fangled money, weights and measures were introduced in the UK - so that one year at Junior School was an interesting one...no computers, calculators etc to help us either. On one hand it's good to be able to do things in base 12, 14 16 etc but on the other, it'd be brain capacity that could be freed up for other stuff. Remember it well, you could get a decent selection of sweets for one old penny, next day it was one new penny which was more than double in price. And the sadist dentist I had made me recite the 12 times table while drilling for oil in my back molars. Good times |
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Post by Mr Mercury on Apr 23, 2021 21:59:12 GMT
Cheers for that correction mate i was one of the generation of kids in education during the UK changeover to decimalisation. I was 8 in 1971 when the new-fangled money, weights and measures were introduced in the UK - so that one year at Junior School was an interesting one...no computers, calculators etc to help us either. On one hand it's good to be able to do things in base 12, 14 16 etc but on the other, it'd be brain capacity that could be freed up for other stuff. I would have been 6 years old around this time so I would have no clue about all that really. |
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Post by ThomasQuinn on Apr 24, 2021 9:04:33 GMT
Cheers for that correction mate i was one of the generation of kids in education during the UK changeover to decimalisation. I was 8 in 1971 when the new-fangled money, weights and measures were introduced in the UK - so that one year at Junior School was an interesting one...no computers, calculators etc to help us either. On one hand it's good to be able to do things in base 12, 14 16 etc but on the other, it'd be brain capacity that could be freed up for other stuff. I was born in 1988, in The Netherlands, and we still got a couple of lessons on doing calculations with "English money", old style, in primary school. Don't ask me why they thought that'd be useful for primary school kids, but it certainly comes in handy from time to time when I'm dealing with British sources from the 19th century for my work! |
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