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Post by The Real Wizard on May 12, 2021 20:22:13 GMT
also taken by David Turner is what seems to be 1977.02.10 Providence, note that Deacon is using the Music Man bass here Excellent observation. This is why we pay you the big bucks. |
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Post by beyondthemoon on May 12, 2021 21:46:51 GMT
To revive a discussion that took place here in July 2020, there is a photo of a North American Races show taken by Paul McAlpine:
Despite being labeled as Madison Square Garden, the possibility of the shot being from this date is highly unlikely, as Brian wears white pants at Madison Square Garden:
Additionally, Deacon is playing the Music Man Stingray in the McAlpine shot, which we now know was used for the first time on stage a few days later in Providence:
Because McAlpine was a New England-based photographer, is known to have photographed shows in Providence, and the outfits match (other than Freddie, because it was taken at a different point in the show), I would suggest that his photos with the Stingray would be from Providence (unless they're from Philadelphia or some second leg date, but I would especially doubt the latter).
As a bonus, here's another Providence Races shot taken by David Turner: |
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Post by fabiogminero on May 13, 2021 8:36:54 GMT
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Post by The Real Wizard on May 13, 2021 20:34:08 GMT
Another set of photos (42!) taken by Dutch photograher Lex Van Rossen, this time from the 'A Day At The Races Tour' in Rotterdam on 17th May 1977.  This one is definitely from 4/19/78. Mercury's hair is shorter, and note May's outfit and shoes - he was wearing clogs on the Races tour, and here he has Nike sneakers. |
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Post by fabiogminero on May 14, 2021 5:34:02 GMT
Another set of photos (42!) taken by Dutch photograher Lex Van Rossen, this time from the 'A Day At The Races Tour' in Rotterdam on 17th May 1977. This one is definitely from 4/19/78. Mercury's hair is shorter, and note May's outfit and shoes - he was wearing clogs on the Races tour, and here he has Nike sneakers. e You're right! |
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Post by fabiogminero on May 14, 2021 6:52:33 GMT
Some 'Magic Tour' shots from Queen's concert in Leiden, 11th June 1986. These four photos were again taken by Dutch photographer Lex Van Rossen.     |
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Post by fabiogminero on May 15, 2021 7:54:46 GMT
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Post by Ryan Newton on May 15, 2021 8:05:25 GMT
I found these pics just yesterday, because the photographer shared them on a website dedicated to professional photography (if you are interested is called Youpic). They are credited to © Bert Trommer and labeled as Dortmund 21st January 1979. We know that these pics were certainly not taken in 1979 but during the European tour of 'Hot Space' in 1982. I think that this pictures were also not taken in Dortmund as well; during that concert, John Deacon wore a red t-shirt with white pants (Dave Matkin took photos that night and John is clearly visible with these clothes on). Judging Freddie's t-shirt and cuff, I believe these photographs may have been taken during one of the other German concerts of that period, such as Frankfurt, Hanover, Würzburg or Böblingen.        Out of the ones you listed, Fred's arrow tanktop only matches Boblingen. The wristband he's wearing also matches (with the three blue bands). Although, lets not rule out the possibility of it being Cologne, as there are no shots from those nights either (although there is a bit of film from 5/7). I'd bet on it being 5/10 though. |
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Post by fabiogminero on May 15, 2021 9:18:34 GMT
I found these pics just yesterday, because the photographer shared them on a website dedicated to professional photography (if you are interested is called Youpic). They are credited to © Bert Trommer and labeled as Dortmund 21st January 1979. We know that these pics were certainly not taken in 1979 but during the European tour of 'Hot Space' in 1982. I think that these pictures were also not taken in Dortmund as well; during that concert, John Deacon wore a red t-shirt with white pants (Dave Matkin took photos that night and John is clearly visible with these clothes on). Judging Freddie's t-shirt and cuff, I believe these photographs may have been taken during one of the other German concerts of that period, such as Frankfurt, Hanover, Würzburg or Böblingen. Yes, Cologne is one of the possibilities, but I think these are from 10th May 1982 concert because these are similar to the shots taken by Josh von Staudach. |
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Post by Leon's Crazy Game on May 15, 2021 10:44:06 GMT
I also think they are from Böblingen as the photographer seems to be from Regensburg. Böblingen is closer to Regensburg than Cologne, but on the other hand Munich would be even closer but maybe he couldn't get any tickets or they were more expensive? Doesn't matter, just wanted to share my thoughts
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Post by littlequeenie97 on May 15, 2021 14:31:39 GMT
I also think they are from Böblingen as the photographer seems to be from Regensburg. Böblingen is closer to Regensburg than Cologne, but on the other hand Munich would be even closer but maybe he couldn't get any tickets or they were more expensive? Doesn't matter, just wanted to share my thoughts We cant also rule out 2nd Munich, can we? |
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Post by pg on May 15, 2021 15:14:08 GMT
If the date is wrong and the location is wrong, why do we believe the photographer name is correct?
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Post by Ryan Newton on May 15, 2021 22:06:48 GMT
If the date is wrong and the location is wrong, why do we believe the photographer name is correct? It isn't uncommon for people to forget where they took their photos or film, especially if they're professionals and have been doing it for nearly 50 years. |
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Post by pg on May 15, 2021 22:56:50 GMT
Fair point, but it's three years out. We don't forgive the film for that....
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Post by fabiogminero on May 16, 2021 7:46:15 GMT
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Post by deathtoming on May 16, 2021 18:10:03 GMT
Melbourne - April 19, 1976 Photos by John Lamb The following two photos appeared on the The Age newspaper's site last month:   Now, regarding those striped shorts Freddie wore, as seen in that first photo. I came upon an interesting discussion on Twitter today (@skip_skip_sheep), so I thought I'd share. The red and white striped shorts with the tricolour suspenders are taken from the "Boss Chicks," a group of women who were used in promotional activities for the Philadelphia radio station WFIL. The band visited WFIL presumably around their February 1975 show (there's a picture, but it's uninteresting so I won't post it here). Almost every picture I could find has the Boss Chicks wearing stars as well, but as you can see on the far left, there is a stripes-only variation, which is what Freddie wore.  You can see the WFIL logo on the shorts.  He later switched to different suspenders:  |
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Post by dreamersball on May 16, 2021 19:33:15 GMT
JVC Studios, Wembley - May 15, 1986 Taken by Steven Bennett    |
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Post by dreamersball on May 16, 2021 19:56:35 GMT
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Post by fabiogminero on May 17, 2021 8:51:15 GMT
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Post by fractionthisday on May 17, 2021 15:48:29 GMT
I apologise if this is off topic, but one thing I find fascinating having gone through this thread is the appearance of 'anachronistic' costumes, mainly for Freddie, such as how he seems to have worn a black PVC trousers at the RDS in Dublin in 1979 (I was only aware of the red one on the Crazy Tour?), red PVC trousers at Drammen on the Hot Space tour, the black 'arrow' jacket on some Works tour dates and so on. It also seems weird to see him with the red PVC trousers and red tie on the Game tour with the moustache, and yet some gigs he had tank tops before they became his standard look. Life isn't all about neat changes, of course, transitions and rewearing old clothes are common in daily life so why not on stage also?
Plus, does anyone know why John wore the convict outfit on stage? Was it only for encores when the mood of the band often tended to be lighthearted?
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Post by martinpacker on May 17, 2021 18:21:09 GMT
Plus, does anyone know why John wore the convict outfit on stage? Was it only for encores when the mood of the band often tended to be lighthearted? It might be related to the "Birdman of Alcatraz" thing when he cut his hair really short. :-) |
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Post by donovan on May 17, 2021 20:30:30 GMT
London, UK Normandy, France Lyceum Ballroom Omaha Beach December 13, 1979 June 6, 1944 Taken by Mark Egerton Robert Capa Fixed. (For the record, I really like these chaos of these photos!) |
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Post by The Real Wizard on May 17, 2021 23:53:42 GMT
If the date is wrong and the location is wrong, why do we believe the photographer name is correct? It isn't uncommon for people to forget where they took their photos or film, especially if they're professionals and have been doing it for nearly 50 years. Exactly.
Photographers (or their estates) license their photos to such websites, and that is the one detail they will not get wrong.
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Post by The Real Wizard on May 17, 2021 23:58:33 GMT
I also think they are from Böblingen as the photographer seems to be from Regensburg. Böblingen is closer to Regensburg than Cologne, but on the other hand Munich would be even closer but maybe he couldn't get any tickets or they were more expensive? Doesn't matter, just wanted to share my thoughts We cant also rule out 2nd Munich, can we? In theory no. I guess it's all a matter of how far he was willing to travel for the gig.
But since all of their outfits match the existing 5/10 shots and Boblingen is close to where the photographer lived, that's pretty likely it.
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Post by The Real Wizard on May 18, 2021 0:02:29 GMT
Fair point, but it's three years out. We don't forgive the film for that.... To people who aren't music ardent historians (which often also includes the artists themselves), three years may well be nothing in the grand of schemes. The other day I spoke with a very musically literate friend who thought he saw Yes in 2003, but it was 1998. To most people a few years is just a tiny blip. |
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Post by Emmanuel on May 18, 2021 4:09:32 GMT
Venue: Portland, ME, USA, Exposition Hall Date: April 28, 1974 Photographer:(I don't understand the letter sorry but there is in the photo) Shared on TQD server (Also on queenlive, i don't think the Portland photo is from 1974, is from 1975)    |
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Post by vh on May 18, 2021 9:32:32 GMT
Plus, does anyone know why John wore the convict outfit on stage? Was it only for encores when the mood of the band often tended to be lighthearted? It might be related to the "Birdman of Alcatraz" thing when he cut his hair really short. :-) My memory of the first night in Brighton was that he wore the outfit from the beginning of the show until the heavy section of Bo Rhap. |
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Post by fabiogminero on May 18, 2021 19:21:46 GMT
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Post by The Real Wizard on May 19, 2021 6:08:15 GMT
Venue: Portland, ME, USA, Exposition Hall Date: April 28, 1974 Photographer:(I don't understand the letter sorry but there is in the photo) Shared on TQD server (Also on queenlive, i don't think the Portland photo is from 1974, is from 1975) Indeed, you're right - looks like the shot on my site is from '75. The person who sent me that photo insists it was taken that night, but she also insists the show was in Oregon instead of Maine - truly bizarre.
As for the letter, it looks like an inside joke between the couple people who saw the show.
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Post by fabiogminero on May 19, 2021 9:22:48 GMT
Great photos from the 'Hot Space' tour in 1982. The first one I found is labeled as Vienna 1982: it was taken by Keith Waldergrave (apparently) during 'Staying Power', because John is playing his black Fender Telecaster. I think this is from the first night, 12th May 1982.  The second one is again labeled as Vienna 1982, but I think it's from the 13th May concert, because it seems that John and Brian wears different outfits (in other photos taken by Rainer Rygalyk, Brian has the same white t-shirt). Freddie wears the same cuff on both nights.  This one of Freddie was taken by Rainer Rygalyk on the second night in Vienna.  The last one is a beautiful photo of Roger, also labeled as Vienna 1982. Since Roger isn't visible in any of the photos, it could be from either night in the Austrian capital.  |
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