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Post by mike71 on Jul 15, 2021 18:06:43 GMT
Priest Just announced a huge boxset of all their studio records, unreleased songs and live recordings. 42 CD's worth of music, celebrating 50 years as a band. This is the boxset Queen fans have given up on. Priest really do care about their fans.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Jul 15, 2021 19:18:24 GMT
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Post by pg on Jul 15, 2021 21:08:14 GMT
The Queen equivalent would be what - 16 studio albums, 6 double live albums, probably two discs of non-album songs, and three more discs of alternate versions.
33 discs of stuff we already have. Really not sure that's what Queen fans are crying out for.
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Post by pg on Jul 15, 2021 21:15:27 GMT
Hang on, all but two of the unreleased discs are concerts...
I'd like 5 unreleased Queen concerts, admittedly, but we've had Rainbow, Odeon, Budapest, which could be the equivalent of the live discs in the JP set.
In fairness to Queen, we've probably had close to two discs of studio stuff already, with NOTW and the bonus EPs.
So if you took the 20 disc cabinet from 199x, add the concerts released since 2000, combine the bonus tracks that were new, how far off the JP box would you be? ...and you wouldn't have to buy it all at once.
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Post by Frank on Jul 15, 2021 21:17:31 GMT
Still, at least Judas Priest is doing SOMETHING to celebrate 50 years. What do we have? Greatest Hits....again?
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Post by Lord Fickle on Jul 15, 2021 22:02:24 GMT
Hang on, all but two of the unreleased discs are concerts... I'd like 5 unreleased Queen concerts, admittedly, but we've had Rainbow, Odeon, Budapest, which could be the equivalent of the live discs in the JP set. In fairness to Queen, we've probably had close to two discs of studio stuff already, with NOTW and the bonus EPs. So if you took the 20 disc cabinet from 199x, add the concerts released since 2000, combine the bonus tracks that were new, how far off the JP box would you be? ...and you wouldn't have to buy it all at once. Don't give QPL any ideas of putting all that lot in a cardboard box!  |
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Post by saintjiub on Jul 16, 2021 0:06:56 GMT
Don't give QPL any ideas of putting all that lot in a cardboard box! You mean putting it all out on cassettes inside a decorative sleave??? |
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Post by Nuppiz on Jul 16, 2021 17:30:02 GMT
Yeah, I saw the details for this today and it's quite impressive. It does irk me though that should I end up buying this, I'll get some of the studio albums for the 4th time... (original vinyl, 2001/02 CD remasters, anniversary editions and now this). It's quite notable though for both containing the Gull-era albums and the "Ripper" Owens-era albums, which have usually been skimmed over in previous compilations.
Given my expertise with the band, I might as well put in some details of what's really "new".
Of the live contents - most of it has already been circulating as bootlegs as you could expect, given that many of them are recordings originally made for radio broadcast. Only Atlanta '82 and Houston '86 have never circulated in any form - based on their dates I presume these are backup recordings (for overdubs etc.) made for Live Vengeance '82 and Priest...Live!, respectively. Assuming the track lists here are correct, the following concerts have additional material not available on bootlegs:
The remaining concerts have already been available on the bootleg market, although I presume these official releases have a slightly better sound quality in some cases:
Finally, pretty much all of the live snippets in the last two discs are from already circulating radio broadcasts or soundboard tapes, although in some cases the existing bootleg versions are rather rough-sounding. The few really interesting exceptions are:
- Epitaph demo. Never circulated on the bootleg market. Also, it's from their Gull Records years so it probably cost them quite a bit to acquire it.
- 1979 and 1991 recordings. Only audience recordings from these concerts were known to exist. The 1979 recordings are presumably backups made for possible use on Unleashed in the East.
- Mother Sun live '75. An early Queen-esque track that the band never properly recorded in the studio. So far it has only been available on two audience recordings (Reading Festival 1975 and Slough College 1975), although there have been persistent rumours of a soundboard tape existing from the Slough College concert. Could this be from that?
So for someone that already has all of the official releases as well as a substantial collection of bootlegs, apart from the two previously unavailable concerts this has... less than one CDs worth of new content (and even then most of that is just upgrades from audience to pro recordings). And even the two "new" concerts are from tours that are already well documented in terms of live releases.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Jul 16, 2021 18:03:45 GMT
Priest Just announced a huge boxset of all their studio records, unreleased songs and live recordings. 42 CD's worth of music, celebrating 50 years as a band. This is the boxset Queen fans have given up on. Priest really do care about their fans. there's not an awful lot among those 42 CDs, that hasn't been heard before - maybe between 1-2 CDs' worth? that equates to less than 1 track per year. on the weight of evidence presented I'd say Priest have treated their fans no better/worse than Queen their own fans.  |
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Post by Lord Fickle on Jul 16, 2021 18:50:04 GMT
Yeah, I saw the details for this today and it's quite impressive. It does irk me though that should I end up buying this, I'll get some of the studio albums for the 4th time... (original vinyl, 2001/02 CD remasters, anniversary editions and now this). It's quite notable though for both containing the Gull-era albums and the "Ripper" Owens-era albums, which have usually been skimmed over in previous compilations.
Given my expertise with the band, I might as well put in some details of what's really "new".
Of the live contents - most of it has already been circulating as bootlegs as you could expect, given that many of them are recordings originally made for radio broadcast. Only Atlanta '82 and Houston '86 have never circulated in any form - based on their dates I presume these are backup recordings (for overdubs etc.) made for Live Vengeance '82 and Priest...Live!, respectively. Assuming the track lists here are correct, the following concerts have additional material not available on bootlegs:
The remaining concerts have already been available on the bootleg market, although I presume these official releases have a slightly better sound quality in some cases:
Finally, pretty much all of the live snippets in the last two discs are from already circulating radio broadcasts or soundboard tapes, although in some cases the existing bootleg versions are rather rough-sounding. The few really interesting exceptions are:
- Epitaph demo. Never circulated on the bootleg market. Also, it's from their Gull Records years so it probably cost them quite a bit to acquire it.
- 1979 and 1991 recordings. Only audience recordings from these concerts were known to exist. The 1979 recordings are presumably backups made for possible use on Unleashed in the East.
- Mother Sun live '75. An early Queen-esque track that the band never properly recorded in the studio. So far it has only been available on two audience recordings (Reading Festival 1975 and Slough College 1975), although there have been persistent rumours of a soundboard tape existing from the Slough College concert. Could this be from that?
So for someone that already has all of the official releases as well as a substantial collection of bootlegs, apart from the two previously unavailable concerts this has... less than one CDs worth of new content (and even then most of that is just upgrades from audience to pro recordings). And even the two "new" concerts are from tours that are already well documented in terms of live releases.
Thanks for the dissection. Got to admit, I've never really been into Priest, other than a handful of tracks, so this won't be one for me anyway. |
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Post by mike71 on Jul 16, 2021 20:24:04 GMT
Still, at least Judas Priest is doing SOMETHING to celebrate 50 years. What do we have? Greatest Hits....again? That's my point...Greatest Hits and Wembley again? |
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Post by ted on Jul 16, 2021 20:29:59 GMT
Priest Just announced a huge boxset of all their studio records, unreleased songs and live recordings. 42 CD's worth of music, celebrating 50 years as a band. This is the boxset Queen fans have given up on. Priest really do care about their fans. there's not an awful lot among those 42 CDs, that hasn't been heard before - maybe between 1-2 CDs' worth? that equates to less than 1 track per year. on the weight of evidence presented I'd say Priest have treated their fans no better/worse than Queen their own fans. I would tend to agree. With so much previously released material included in this set and it being such a huge release, I don't see how the cumulative benefits of acquiring this would justify the cost for most JP fans. It's unfortunate that they were able to include only 1 demo from the Gull Records years (again, likely due to the cost) as the 1st 2 Priest albums are my favourites.
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Post by mike71 on Jul 16, 2021 22:41:18 GMT
The early Priest was my favorite too, Sad Wings to Stained Class. I still have hope Queen have one more big release. My prediction is a boxset in November.
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Post by anotherroger on Jul 18, 2021 9:10:02 GMT
Judas Priest is extremely small compared to Queen. I know we as fans has "suffered" with boring releases. But when it comes to bringing Queen to the masses 30 years after Freddie's death they have not put a foot wrong.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Jul 18, 2021 9:54:47 GMT
there's not an awful lot among those 42 CDs, that hasn't been heard before - maybe between 1-2 CDs' worth? that equates to less than 1 track per year. on the weight of evidence presented I'd say Priest have treated their fans no better/worse than Queen their own fans. I would tend to agree. With so much previously released material included in this set and it being such a huge release, I don't see how the cumulative benefits of acquiring this would justify the cost for most JP fans. It's unfortunate that they were able to include only 1 demo from the Gull Records years (again, likely due to the cost) as the 1st 2 Priest albums are my favourites. Ted a classic example of quantity rather than quality and yet another opportunity missed. pity |
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Post by greatsoundingmaracas on Jul 18, 2021 18:54:18 GMT
The early Priest was my favorite too, Sad Wings to Stained Class. I still have hope Queen have one more big release. My prediction is a boxset in November. I'm praying you're right!  And if you're right, it hopefully releases before November 20, as that's my birthday and if you're wrong I have no idea what to wish xD |
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