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Post by ragmaram on Jul 23, 2021 18:48:19 GMT
So of course if you search a queen song on spotify it will come up with the 2011 remaster, however it is possible to access what I presume are the 1994 remasters, and in the case of the made in heaven album, the original master. They can be differentiated by the fact that it has just the song name, no (2011 Remaster) and the album covers are slightly different, as in saturation or how warm or cold it is, so can anyone confirm that these are the 1994 remasters and also does anyone know what date queen came on spotify? earliest i could guess in 2009 and of course it would have been before 2011. Not sure if compilations e.g. gh1 2 and 3 were uploaded as I can't find them
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Post by CamAaron on Jul 23, 2021 23:39:08 GMT
So of course if you search a queen song on spotify it will come up with the 2011 remaster, however it is possible to access what I presume are the 1994 remasters, and in the case of the made in heaven album, the original master. They can be differentiated by the fact that it has just the song name, no (2011 Remaster) and the album covers are slightly different, as in saturation or how warm or cold it is, so can anyone confirm that these are the 1994 remasters and also does anyone know what date queen came on spotify? earliest i could guess in 2009 and of course it would have been before 2011. Not sure if compilations e.g. gh1 2 and 3 were uploaded as I can't find them I think that if those were the 1994 remasters, it would be said like in the 2011 ones; however, it may be possible they are. I'm not an expert, but I guess it can be solved by comparing both the originals and the 1994 remasters with the Spotify tracks that you mentioned, as they may have some slight differences. For what I found, Queen are on Spotify (at least) since 2010. About the compilations, I think it depends on the country you are at. At least where I am, the compilations do appear. |
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Post by dysan on Jul 24, 2021 5:42:51 GMT
Where I am in the UK I can only see the 2011 versions - both 1 and 2 CD versions when I search on the app, although there are some anomalies if you do some fancy browser searches like the Singles Collections (which in some cases contain '2010 remasters') and also the Hollywood records versions (minus the bonus tracks) including At The BBC, NOTW and SHA:
(EDIT: I'm impressed those links created windows! However that's screwed up the next part of my original post: Info not available when I first posted - these clearly say 2011 remasters which they did not in my browser which confirms my next suspicion:)
I attempted to check the various cue mark differences but to be honest, I can't remember. My suspicion is that these are merely old uploads to Spotify (copyright info, cover variations etc) that have been repopulated with the current remasters. This is backed up when I look at some playlists I made in 2009, any Queen tracks have been replaced by the 2011 masters where I would expect them to just be removed rather than automatically swapped out. I guess this is what the OP is experiencing when seeing what appear to be 'old' masters.
The only thing I really have to add to this is that when Queen were first on Spotify (definitely in 2009) they only had releases from the then 'official' Top 100 Bootlegs series on there which I'm sure must have confused the casual listeners searching them out!
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Post by ragmaram on Jul 24, 2021 11:22:06 GMT
Where I am in the UK I can only see the 2011 versions - both 1 and 2 CD versions when I search on the app, although there are some anomalies if you do some fancy browser searches like the Singles Collections (which in some cases contain '2010 remasters') and also the Hollywood records versions (minus the bonus tracks) including At The BBC, NOTW and SHA: (EDIT: I'm impressed those links created windows! However that's screwed up the next part of my original post: Info not available when I first posted - these clearly say 2011 remasters which they did not in my browser which confirms my next suspicion:) I attempted to check the various cue mark differences but to be honest, I can't remember. My suspicion is that these are merely old uploads to Spotify (copyright info, cover variations etc) that have been repopulated with the current remasters. This is backed up when I look at some playlists I made in 2009, any Queen tracks have been replaced by the 2011 masters where I would expect them to just be removed rather than automatically swapped out. I guess this is what the OP is experiencing when seeing what appear to be 'old' masters. The only thing I really have to add to this is that when Queen were first on Spotify (definitely in 2009) they only had releases from the then 'official' Top 100 Bootlegs series on there which I'm sure must have confused the casual listeners searching them out! Yeah I can't search them up here in the UK either, but I found them through a playlist called 'Queen Albums in Order' It has the 2011 remasters up to day at the races, and news of the world onwards is 1994 remasters. |
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Post by ragmaram on Jul 24, 2021 11:31:37 GMT
Here's a link to one of my playlists which has all of the 1994 remasters from miracle
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Post by ragmaram on Jul 24, 2021 11:33:17 GMT
Here's a link to one of my playlists which has all of the 1994 remasters from miracle it's seemed to have done the same thing as you.. I wonder if the 1994 remasters aren't 'official' anymore so even if a playlist uses said remasters, when sharing it will incorrectly say 2011 |
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Post by dysan on Jul 24, 2021 12:10:34 GMT
Pretty sure it's the other way around. The new remasters are all that exist on the servers and they are fed through to the legacy albums on the Spotify system which are no longer findable on the service but still accessible through playlists and cached searches. The track cues are identical on the Hollywood and 2011 masters which is not right if they were using different masters.
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Post by Plengel on Jul 24, 2021 12:30:53 GMT
Here's a link to one of my playlists which has all of the 1994 remasters from miracle No, it does not... Your link shows the 2011 remasters on my phone.  I guess it depends on what country you're in and different versions of Spotify. |
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Post by ragmaram on Jul 24, 2021 13:40:54 GMT
Here's a link to one of my playlists which has all of the 1994 remasters from miracle No, it does not... Your link shows the 2011 remasters on my phone. I guess it depends on what country you're in and different versions of Spotify. yes I know thsts why I pointed it out |
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Post by fras444 on Jul 25, 2021 14:16:40 GMT
Interesting when you look at what other bands do, Metallica and Megadeath have kept both versions of their back-catalog. Led Zep the same as well. Def Leppard.... WOW they have gone hell for leather and emptied basically their entire house with everything including the kitchen sink and same with Metallica.... Iron Maiden have just their 2005 remasters which is sort of annoying as everything is labeled 2005, not the year that their album came out. I guess Queen is on the same boat as Iron Maiden... It would be awesome if Queen did a 'Def Leppard' and emptied their whole archives but I would love queen to give it some TLC like Metallica has...
On the note of Spotify....
I wish they would allow you to link songs together!!! It's annoying that I can't have 'Keep Yourself Alive' live at the rainbow in a play list as I would get part of the song and a drum solo 20 songs down the list then the reprise randomly next week.....
Many Queen songs especially Queen II and SHA that link up along with their live albums and many other bands that have linked songs that are listed as separate tracks... Pink Floyd being a great example
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Post by n39 on Jul 25, 2021 16:55:44 GMT
Interesting when you look at what other bands do, Metallica and Megadeath have kept both versions of their back-catalog. Led Zep the same as well. Def Leppard.... WOW they have gone hell for leather and emptied basically their entire house with everything including the kitchen sink and same with Metallica.... Iron Maiden have just their 2005 remasters which is sort of annoying as everything is labeled 2005, not the year that their album came out. I guess Queen is on the same boat as Iron Maiden... It would be awesome if Queen did a 'Def Leppard' and emptied their whole archives but I would love queen to give it some TLC like Metallica has... On the note of Spotify.... I wish they would allow you to link songs together!!! It's annoying that I can't have 'Keep Yourself Alive' live at the rainbow in a play list as I would get part of the song and a drum solo 20 songs down the list then the reprise randomly next week..... Many Queen songs especially Queen II and SHA that link up along with their live albums and many other bands that have linked songs that are listed as separate tracks... Pink Floyd being a great example That's the producer's (JSS, JJM and KF) fault for not linking KYA as one full track on the release, which it should've been. |
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Post by greatsoundingmaracas on Jul 25, 2021 20:51:18 GMT
I think it's pretty interesting that Spotify still uses the old Queen II-cover instead of the new one (at least here in Germany).
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Post by ragmaram on Jul 26, 2021 17:34:25 GMT
I think it's pretty interesting that Spotify still uses the old Queen II-cover instead of the new one (at least here in Germany). there's different covers? |
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Post by greatsoundingmaracas on Jul 29, 2021 15:31:59 GMT
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Post by VitasDB on Jul 30, 2021 12:10:58 GMT
Here is the Live Magic album on Spotify. It's not listed in the regular Spotify pages, only accessible through Google search, and none of its tracks are available (at least in my country). Still interesting tho. I will keep searching for more unlisted rarities on Spotify.
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Post by ragmaram on Jul 30, 2021 15:23:40 GMT
Here is the Live Magic album on Spotify. It's not listed in the regular Spotify pages, only accessible through Google search, and none of its tracks are available (at least in my country). Still interesting tho. I will keep searching for more unlisted rarities on Spotify. |
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Post by ragmaram on Jul 30, 2021 15:34:02 GMT
I also found the singles collection vol. 1, which does not use the 2011 remasters
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Post by ragmaram on Jul 30, 2021 15:36:31 GMT
I also found the singles collection vol. 1, which does not use the 2011 remasters volume 3 has a '2010 digital remaster' of hang on in there |
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Post by ragmaram on Jul 30, 2021 15:37:58 GMT
I also found the singles collection vol. 1, which does not use the 2011 remasters volume 3 has a '2010 digital remaster' of hang on in there vol. 4 also has a 2010 digital remaster of you dont fool me |
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Post by ragmaram on Jul 30, 2021 15:55:18 GMT
these 2010 digital remasters are a blessing in disguise; i can finally add songs like a dozen red roses and a few instrumental mixes from the eye to my liked songs
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Post by ragmaram on Jul 30, 2021 15:58:28 GMT
though im not sure if these remasters are actually remasters, i think they just put '20XX Digital Remaster' on some releases, for example Q is for Queen has 2007 'remasters' of bohemian rhapsody and a kind of magic.
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Post by Strange_frontier on Jul 30, 2021 16:16:10 GMT
The "remastered 2011" Suffix is somewhat annoying. But it's a blessing we get all the deluxe versions with the 2011 CD's on Spotify. Because with the non-suffixed versions (possibly the 1991 CD's) some songs have went missing, like Mad the Swine and Nevermore. So, I can't entirely complain.
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Post by ploughman on Aug 4, 2021 19:43:51 GMT
Didnt Queen sell their catalogue to Universal Records before going to digital platforms? That is the reason why they only have those 2011 remasters there, since they were deliberatly done for rerelasing their catalogue by Universal Records?
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Post by hoopdiddy on Aug 31, 2021 7:28:56 GMT
Spotify oddly has the actual 40th Anniversary boxsets as albums themselves...
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Post by VitasDB on Sept 8, 2022 1:58:21 GMT
I just found this weird rarity:
Stormtroopers in Stilettos single... that doesn't contain Stormtroopers in Stilettos
Edit: nevermind, just found out that this was an actual release back in the day, I initially thought Spotify had some glitch with the tracklist lol. Still a weird release in my opinion.
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Post by The Fairy King on Sept 8, 2022 6:52:25 GMT
Here's a link to one of my playlists which has all of the 1994 remasters from miracle Where's IWIA?! |
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Post by imgoingslightlymad on Oct 8, 2023 14:28:48 GMT
While scrolling trough spotify I found the non remastered version of Innuendo that I’ve been searching for weeks for spotify.link/7uOCS2RpJDb |
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Post by pg on Oct 8, 2023 16:22:25 GMT
Spotify is 320kbps, that's top whack MP3 quality.
Surely that renders all this minutiae, moot? Differentiating between mastering versions requires the best possible "container", doesn't it?
Also, there's the obvious gap in this "history" - anything before 1994! Whatever individuals may think about the original masterings, they are part of the sequence.
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Post by jeroeng on Oct 10, 2023 21:59:15 GMT
There are so much more 'hidden' Queen releases on Spotify then what's searchable via the Spotify page.
Most of them are the pre-2011 (pre-Island/Universal) version of the albums.
Most of them have 1993/4 copyright date for Europe and 1991 for the US. The US versions all contain the bonus remixes (not playable anymore of course)
Did you also notice that there are 4(!) different sleeves for most albums? The current European (post-2011) sleeve, the current USA (post-2011) sleeve, the European pre-2011 sleeve and the US pre-2011 sleeve. They are all slightly (or less slightly in some cases) different, I downloaded all of them to compare them.
Also available on Spotify before 2011, but now deleted: Live Magic, Live at the BBC, Singles Collection pts 1-2-3-4, Greatest Hits (pre-2011 version), Classic Queen (USA 1991), Greatest Hits (USA 1992 red sleeve version), Greatest Hits I&II (gold sleeve version), Queen Rocks, Absolute Greatest, Barcelona (original version), Mr Bad Guy (original version), Lover Of Life Singer Of Songs, Shove It (first version), Q+PR Live In Ukraine ... and probably some more.
Also various older singles like Q+PR Bohemian Rhapsody Hyde Park, It's A Beautiful Day Remix, FM Love Kills (2006 remix), Another One Bites The Dust (The Miami Project version, more than one single), Q+PR C-Lebrity (incl Fire And Water + Show Must Go On Live), Stormtrooper In Stilettos.
I have saved most sleeves on my computer and many of those older releases are documented now on Discogs.
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Post by jeroeng on Oct 11, 2023 7:57:52 GMT
Example of the different Spotify/i-Tunes sleeves for each version:  The Game Europe pre-2011  The Game USA pre-2011  The Game Europe post-2011  The Game USA post-2011 Even a relatively simply sleeve like Hot Space has four different versions:  Hot Space Europe pre-2011  Hot Space USA pre-2011  Hot Space Europe post-2011  Hot Space USA post-2011 (sorry, somehow I can't make the The Game images smaller, despite making the source images smaller where I uploaded them) |
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