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Post by Sammy B. Willickers on Aug 2, 2021 2:03:01 GMT
Hey guys, So as you guys know, the mix for We Will Rock You in Bohemian Rhapsody is a bit different than the original one, especially in the 3rd verse. I've been seeing that it COULD be from the first Paris gig, but I've been listening to their second performance in Munich on the Jazz Tour, and it sounds pretty spot-on (aside from the vocals being moved around a bit, plus the "Got Mud on your face" line and the "do it" lines not being in the broadcast, but on the soundtrack)
But I wanna hear what you guys think, since it doesn't seem to be an open-and-shut case
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Post by greatsoundingmaracas on Aug 3, 2021 7:56:44 GMT
That sounds very similar! But it could theoretically be any Jazz EU show, as they were all multi-tracked.
The thing with the 1st night in Paris is, that they already took FBG from that show and by now we know how lazy QPL is, but that are just my thoughts...
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Post by Sammy B. Willickers on Aug 3, 2021 18:10:18 GMT
That sounds very similar! But it could theoretically be any Jazz EU show, as they were all multi-tracked. The thing with the 1st night in Paris is, that they already took FBG from that show and by now we know how lazy QPL is, but that are just my thoughts... Yeah, We'll probably never know. Even if it is from any of the shows I mentioned, it was absolutely slaughtered with pitch-correction and autotune, making it sound like a robot is singing rather than Freddie Mercury. Why they decided to autotune an amazing vocalist, who wasn't even that off in the original recording, is beyond me. |
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Post by LuigiRZ on Aug 3, 2021 20:49:44 GMT
Hey guys, So as you guys know, the mix for We Will Rock You in Bohemian Rhapsody is a bit different than the original one, especially in the 3rd verse. I've been seeing that it COULD be from the first Paris gig, but I've been listening to their second performance in Munich on the Jazz Tour, and it sounds pretty spot-on (aside from the vocals being moved around a bit, plus the "Got Mud on your face" line and the "do it" lines not being in the broadcast, but on the soundtrack) But I wanna hear what you guys think, since it doesn't seem to be an open-and-shut case It only remains to compare audios of the Jazz Tour. |
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Post by greatsoundingmaracas on Aug 4, 2021 12:53:00 GMT
Hey guys, So as you guys know, the mix for We Will Rock You in Bohemian Rhapsody is a bit different than the original one, especially in the 3rd verse. I've been seeing that it COULD be from the first Paris gig, but I've been listening to their second performance in Munich on the Jazz Tour, and it sounds pretty spot-on (aside from the vocals being moved around a bit, plus the "Got Mud on your face" line and the "do it" lines not being in the broadcast, but on the soundtrack) But I wanna hear what you guys think, since it doesn't seem to be an open-and-shut case It only remains to compare audios of the Jazz Tour. Problem: there are still a bunch of shows that don't have any audience tape, soundboard, etc. |
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Post by scapp70 on Aug 4, 2021 17:09:35 GMT
That sounds very similar! But it could theoretically be any Jazz EU show, as they were all multi-tracked. The thing with the 1st night in Paris is, that they already took FBG from that show and by now we know how lazy QPL is, but that are just my thoughts... Yeah, We'll probably never know. Even if it is from any of the shows I mentioned, it was absolutely slaughtered with pitch-correction and autotune, making it sound like a robot is singing rather than Freddie Mercury. Why they decided to autotune an amazing vocalist, who wasn't even that off in the original recording, is beyond me. I don't hear any robotic voices. However, if they did correct his pitch, maybe they just wanted to match the live to the studio. If the live version was sung a little higher or lower, they would need to match. No big deal |
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Post by Lord Fickle on Aug 4, 2021 17:39:52 GMT
Even if it is from any of the shows I mentioned, it was absolutely slaughtered with pitch-correction and autotune, making it sound like a robot is singing rather than Freddie Mercury. Why they decided to autotune an amazing vocalist, who wasn't even that off in the original recording, is beyond me. I've seen this commented on a few times on here, and honestly, I don't consider myself tone deaf, but I can't say I've ever heard anything 'robotic' sounding on any of their live recordings. I'd much rather hear Freddie in tune on the official live stuff, and listen to the bootlegs if I want to hear all the bum notes and voice cracks. 🙂 |
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Post by Sammy B. Willickers on Aug 4, 2021 17:48:59 GMT
Even if it is from any of the shows I mentioned, it was absolutely slaughtered with pitch-correction and autotune, making it sound like a robot is singing rather than Freddie Mercury. Why they decided to autotune an amazing vocalist, who wasn't even that off in the original recording, is beyond me. I've seen this commented on a few times on here, and honestly, I don't consider myself tone deaf, but I can't say I've ever heard anything 'robotic' sounding on any of their live recordings. I'd much rather hear Freddie in tune on the official live stuff, and listen to the bootlegs if I want to hear all the bum notes and voice cracks. 🙂 I think what I was trying to say was that it didn't sound human. At least with stuff like Live Killers, Freddie still hit those notes (just in a studio), whereas Live At The Rainbow, for example, many fixes on the March show are just artificially changing the note (Fairy Fellers is the most glaring example of this) |
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Post by LuigiRZ on Aug 4, 2021 20:03:12 GMT
It only remains to compare audios of the Jazz Tour. Problem: there are still a bunch of shows that don't have any audience tape, soundboard, etc. It's true... |
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Post by dysan on Aug 4, 2021 20:25:17 GMT
It can't help that it's been time stretched to match the tempo of the studio cut. A jarring version worthy of Rick Rubin  |
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Post by robbybloodshed on Aug 5, 2021 21:11:15 GMT
Even if it is from any of the shows I mentioned, it was absolutely slaughtered with pitch-correction and autotune, making it sound like a robot is singing rather than Freddie Mercury. Why they decided to autotune an amazing vocalist, who wasn't even that off in the original recording, is beyond me. I've seen this commented on a few times on here, and honestly, I don't consider myself tone deaf, but I can't say I've ever heard anything 'robotic' sounding on any of their live recordings. I presume you’ve never listened to the Fairy Feller’s Master Stroke from ‘74. |
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Post by Lord Fickle on Aug 5, 2021 21:37:18 GMT
I've seen this commented on a few times on here, and honestly, I don't consider myself tone deaf, but I can't say I've ever heard anything 'robotic' sounding on any of their live recordings. I presume you’ve never listened to the Fairy Feller’s Master Stroke from ‘74. Of course I have. Which bit specifically are you referring to? The only bit that sounds possibly maniupluated to me is "Soldier sailor tinker tailor PLOUGH-boy", but as I said, I don't listen to it trying to hear all the tweaks. |
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Post by robbybloodshed on Aug 5, 2021 22:07:58 GMT
I presume you’ve never listened to the Fairy Feller’s Master Stroke from ‘74. Of course I have. Which bit specifically are you referring to? The only bit that sounds possibly maniupluated to me is "Soldier sailor tinker tailor PLOUGH-boy", but as I said, I don't listen to it trying to hear all the tweaks. 0:27-0:30, 0:38, 0:43-0:44, 0:47-0:50, 0:55-0:58, 1:05-1:07, 1:55-1:58 It is absolutely tuned during these time stamps. I don’t love it or hate it, they had to work with what they had. Understandable. We don’t know how it sounded direct to the board, so maybe it was the best compromise in order to release it with a guilt free conscious on Freddie’s behalf. It loses a bit of the vibrato and sounds completely unnatural. I don’t listen to decipher all the mistakes, but after listening to pinpoint specifics for you, it’s obvious. To simply not hear it..is a bit of a stretch, when you know how Freddie naturally sounds and how humans sound raw. Now if you were to say you can’t hear the autotune on a recording like Hammersmith Odeon in ‘75, that’s more forgiving as they used it noticeably sparingly in comparison to the Rainbow. |
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Post by Lord Fickle on Aug 5, 2021 22:56:40 GMT
Of course I have. Which bit specifically are you referring to? The only bit that sounds possibly maniupluated to me is "Soldier sailor tinker tailor PLOUGH-boy", but as I said, I don't listen to it trying to hear all the tweaks. 0:27-0:30, 0:38, 0:43-0:44, 0:47-0:50, 0:55-0:58, 1:05-1:07, 1:55-1:58 It is absolutely tuned during these time stamps. I don’t love it or hate it, they had to work with what they had. Understandable. We don’t know how it sounded direct to the board, so maybe it was the best compromise in order to release it with a guilt free conscious on Freddie’s behalf. It loses a bit of the vibrato and sounds completely unnatural. I don’t listen to decipher all the mistakes, but after listening to pinpoint specifics for you, it’s obvious. To simply not hear it..is a bit of a stretch, when you know how Freddie naturally sounds and how humans sound raw. Now if you were to say you can’t hear the autotune on a recording like Hammersmith Odeon in ‘75, that’s more forgiving as they used it noticeably sparingly in comparison to the Rainbow. Thanks for the analysis. I'll listen to it more closely on headphones when I get the chance. It would be much easier to hear when he's out of tune though! Otherwise it's like trying to find a crack in a wall once it's been papered over. |
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Post by n39 on Aug 7, 2021 11:33:51 GMT
I presume you’ve never listened to the Fairy Feller’s Master Stroke from ‘74. Of course I have. Which bit specifically are you referring to? The only bit that sounds possibly maniupluated to me is "Soldier sailor tinker tailor PLOUGH-boy", but as I said, I don't listen to it trying to hear all the tweaks. The second line: ' To see the feller crack a nut at night's moon-time' is especially thin sounding for Freddie's voice, it's definitely been manipulated. And: ' wait till you hear the sound' sounds very artificial, not like Freddie's natural voice at all. |
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Post by Lord Fickle on Aug 7, 2021 12:31:20 GMT
Of course I have. Which bit specifically are you referring to? The only bit that sounds possibly maniupluated to me is "Soldier sailor tinker tailor PLOUGH-boy", but as I said, I don't listen to it trying to hear all the tweaks. The second line: ' To see the feller crack a nut at night's moon-time' is especially thin sounding for Freddie's voice, it's definitely been manipulated. And: ' wait till you hear the sound' sounds very artificial, not like Freddie's natural voice at all. Not trying to be annoying, and not disputing what's been said, but I've listened to it again on headphones, and I still can't really hear anything that sounds unnatural. I think the problem is we've not got the original to compare it with, as if we had, any differences would be clear. |
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Post by Aryan on Aug 8, 2021 7:38:32 GMT
Hey guys, So as you guys know, the mix for We Will Rock You in Bohemian Rhapsody is a bit different than the original one, especially in the 3rd verse. I've been seeing that it COULD be from the first Paris gig, but I've been listening to their second performance in Munich on the Jazz Tour, and it sounds pretty spot-on (aside from the vocals being moved around a bit, plus the "Got Mud on your face" line and the "do it" lines not being in the broadcast, but on the soundtrack) But I wanna hear what you guys think, since it doesn't seem to be an open-and-shut case i hope you have seen my video on the Fat Bottomed Girls (Paris / 1979) in which I find that a part sounds as if it’s from Munich.. |
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