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Post by Twilightsitoo on Sept 22, 2021 15:06:50 GMT
Which do you think is the best / your favorite Queen lighting rig?
My Top 5 is in the next order:
5) Hot Space Tour
4) Crown Rig / News Of The World Tour
3) Magic Tour
2) Pizza Oven / Jazz Tour
1) The Works Tour
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Post by greatsoundingmaracas on Sept 22, 2021 15:44:38 GMT
Mine are (probably):
5. Magic Tour -> Looks awesome, especially in the dark, not like it's seen on Wembley, but in Budapest, but somehow I don't like it that much
4. Hot Space Tour -> Is very well implemented into the whole stage
3. News Of The World Tour -> It's a crown, what are you gonna say? Of course it's awesome!
2. Jazz Tour -> It's a pizza oven, what are you - wait, I've already said that... But I prefer the Jazz version over the Crazy Tour version, as it's bigger, so it looks more impressive
1. The Gamer Tour -> I just love it! The opening is awesome with the thunder noises and the lighting showing the lightning aaah I love it so much!
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Post by vh on Sept 24, 2021 19:13:35 GMT
The Crown rig was more impressive at Earls Court than the version used on The News Of The World Tour.
The Magic Tour rig was huge but somehow had something missing. Certainly on the bigger stage used at Wembley and Knebworth the opposite was true, it was spread out to far to have the impact it was designed for.
Hot Space was ok.
The Game Rig provided some great set pieces due to it’s mobility, the the show intro was essentially the same as The Jazz/ Crazy Tour.
The Works Tour. The visual impact was huge, as was the rig and back drop.
The Jazz Tour intro was worth the entrance fee alone. What was basically 10 58 ft wide trusses with blocks of colour was a simple layout, but the choice of lighting patterns that were possible with it were huge. At the time no one had toured with a rig like it.
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Post by baronlutenvank on Sept 26, 2021 15:40:27 GMT
5. Freddie Mercury Tribute - I don't know, but the whole rig feels scattered to me. 4. Magic Tour - Worked better in the smaller or darker venues like in Leiden and Budapest. I don't know how it was for the people who were there, but the lights' effectiveness looked a little diminished in the 1st half of their Wembley shows as well as Knebworth. 3. The Crown (Earls Court) - The choice of Procession as the opening music was perfect for it. I've always wanted to see the Crown open up, but with the Game tour intro drone. I always thought they would work well too. 2. The Game Tour - A little smaller than their later light shows, but effective and elegant if you ask me, especially with GDML 1. The Works Tour - That thing looked huge when I 1st saw pictures of it in the booklet of GH2 as a kid.
Honorable mention: Q+AL's 2014-2015 "Q"-stage - Can't say I'm a fan of the collab, but that rig looked good.
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Post by vh on Sept 26, 2021 16:56:56 GMT
Budapest wasn't a small venue, it was an open air sports stadium.
The reason the lighting looked good was because the whole of that show took place in darkness, as did Paris. The indoor shows such as Leiden were just that, indoor so had the advantage of darkness.
Apart from the PA wings and roof structure, the actual stage platform used on The Magic toucr was a standard 60x40 stage. That is what the stage set and lighting were designed for. Wembley and Knebworth used a much bigger stage, much bigger than the lighting was designed for, that combined with a day light start time it would never look as Impressive as the other shows.
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Post by MisterSandmanAU on Oct 4, 2021 2:48:32 GMT
Somebody should make colour diagrams for all of the rigs. Hell, I probably could do so.
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Post by vh on Oct 5, 2021 3:21:14 GMT
Somebody should make colour diagrams for all of the rigs. Hell, I probably could do so. You can actually trace the colour affect of Queen's lighting designs all the way back to The Sheer Heart Attack tour. The rigs have always been based around blocks of colour, the idea being to give a vivid colour wash to the stage, then pick out band members with white or coloured spots against the colour wash. There have been some exceptions to the rule where a particular song or musical passage may have used flashes of stabbing colour. in 1974 the lights were hung in groups of two, each group being a colour repeated in the whole rig. A different colour appearing in the vertical hang but repeating across the stage. The 76 rig used the same idea but on a bigger scale. The 77/78 Crown used the same colour idea but hung the lights in rows on trusses, again the result was a strong vivid wash. By The Jazz tour the blocks of colour were much more obvious and the rig had a huge impact. Green, Red and white were the colours most used so these were the one used in the main rig. The down stage truss provided blues and some pink. All the rigs after the Jazz tour were variations of that big block format and the Jazz tour established that as a Queen live trade mark. It reached its zenith with The Works tour, size and impact wise. For some reason, A Kind Of Magic used a big rig, in the number of lights but lost the impact of those huge banks of colour. The rig over used blues but also had a lot of small numbers of lamps dedicated to certain colours. The result was a rig that, colour wise, no longer had that Queen look. The rig wouldn't have looked out of place with AC/DC or Van Halen at the time. The Q+PR tours used lighting that had no visual conection to classic Queen. However the Q+AL rigs have, most of the time, certainly echoed the 70's and 80's rigs Queen were famous for.
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Post by deathtoming on Apr 24, 2022 16:19:40 GMT
For fans of the Hot Space tour lighting rig, you can now get a 33cm x 90cm tenugui (Japanese multipurpose towel-thing) with the same design. Has there been any other merchandise based strictly on the lighting rig?
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Post by ActionThisDay on Apr 27, 2022 18:15:50 GMT
^ Love it but they could've at least got the number of 'lights' correct - 8 x 10 for the US/Japan leg.
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Post by munichqueenfan on Mar 20, 2023 14:05:15 GMT
5. News of the World Tour - Great colour combinations
4. Jazz Tour - Very impressive lighting patterns. Only the number of colours in the main rig is very limited compared to previous rigs (only white, green and red).
3. The Game Tour - Great moving lights and very impressive colour combinations!
2. Magic Tour - Overwhelming number of lights (especially the larger versions used for Wembley and Knebworth). Makes Ben Hur look like the muppets ;-). Unfortunately the lights change too fast in many songs compared to previous lighting rigs.
1. Works Tour - Very impressive lighting rig covering the whole stage and provide many different colours with large banks of lights.
One word to Hot Space lighting rig: I am a little disappointed of this one. In terms of number of lights, number of colours and moving lights it is a step back compared to the previous Game Tour. Especially the first version using only 3 colours looks a bit thin. The one with 4 colours is OK, but still not overwhelming. 2 years later the band did a remarkable step forward!
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Post by boffy on Apr 25, 2024 8:20:32 GMT
Here is a collection of interesting pages about their various lighting rigs from the SHA tour in 1974 up to the second QPR tour in 2008. www.queenconcerts.com/lighting-rigs.htmlTo look at, I really like the Pizza Oven. That might largely be down to me being hooked on live footage from that era at the mo. I’ve always loved the particular teal green in the video of the November ’74 Rainbow show, though I’m not sure if that comes from the lights themselves or how the cameras captured them.
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Post by saintjiub on Apr 25, 2024 13:46:35 GMT
Here is a collection of interesting pages about their various lighting rigs from the SHA tour in 1974 up to the second QPR tour in 2008. www.queenconcerts.com/lighting-rigs.htmlTo look at, I really like the Pizza Oven. That might largely be down to me being hooked on live footage from that era at the mo. I’ve always loved the particular teal green in the video of the November ’74 Rainbow show, though I’m not sure if that comes from the lights themselves or how the cameras captured them. Looking at the News of the World Tour photos, why does the Houston video appear to be so much dimmer, diffuse and eerier?
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Post by boffy on Apr 25, 2024 17:49:16 GMT
Looking at the News of the World Tour photos, why does the Houston video appear to be so much dimmer, diffuse and eerier? I’d presume the photos on that site have been adjusted to best show the lighting rig itself, whereas the concert video is exposed/graded to show off the band. Other than that, it’s analogue 480i NTSC video, murkiness is expected. Also, I understand it was only shot to appear on the venue’s jumbotron screens as opposed being for broadcast. Plus, we mostly only have a bootleg copy. It’s honestly amazing it looks as good as it does, due in no small part to the talented people on this forum who’ve worked to get the best out of it.
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Post by saintjiub on Apr 26, 2024 0:26:48 GMT
Looking at the News of the World Tour photos, why does the Houston video appear to be so much dimmer, diffuse and eerier? I’d presume the photos on that site have been adjusted to best show the lighting rig itself, whereas the concert video is exposed/graded to show off the band. Other than that, it’s analogue 480i NTSC video, murkiness is expected. Also, I understand it was only shot to appear on the venue’s jumbotron screens as opposed being a for broadcast. Plus, we mostly only have a bootleg copy. It’s honestly amazing it looks as good as it does, due in no small part to the talented people on this forum who’ve worked to get the best out of it. I just noticed that the photos that you link all have dry ice that especially reflects the lighting. When I look at the Houston video tape during the opening WWRY song with loads of dry ice, the brightness seems similar. I guess I was just remembering the "eerie" parts of the Houston show with primarily only spotlights and without dry ice.
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