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Post by inuliger on Jun 1, 2022 19:50:54 GMT
So, for those who’ve long been wondering whether a ‘46664’ version of “Say It’s Not True” exists or not, I’m happy to report that there is in fact a studio recording of this, as I’ve acquired an acetate reference CD-R of this (at high expense!): www.discogs.com/release/23412941-Queen-Say-Its-Not-TrueOf particular note: -Extra synth bit at the start, as heard on the Q+PR video version -Roger solo vocal, no backup harmonies. Same phase effect (slightly less polished) -Completely acoustic, with acoustic guitars all the way and keyboards, plus a little hi hat or maraca percussive bit in the background -The ending is slightly different to what we’d expect -The most surprising thing for me is that most of the first two minutes were re-used for “The Cosmos Rocks” version, albeit no acoustic guitar until the chorus but with keyboard in place instead, and some other minor mixing differences
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Post by Golden Salmon on Jun 1, 2022 20:00:09 GMT
Amazing find! Thank you for the info!
Any chance we can listen to a snippet?
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Post by inuliger on Jun 1, 2022 21:47:38 GMT
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Post by florians on Jun 2, 2022 4:47:02 GMT
Thank you very much!
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Post by rogercz on Jun 2, 2022 7:24:30 GMT
Oh, thank you very much! That could be my favourite version, I love Roger's voice and this song is one of his best. Hope it will see the light of the day in the future!
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Post by dave76 on Jun 2, 2022 10:24:21 GMT
It's very lovely indeed. Now when i think of it, he could've included this in the "The Lot" boxset as another rare gem. Thanks for sharing pal!
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Post by bananawig on Jun 2, 2022 10:53:24 GMT
Thanks so much for sharing this! A (possibly) random question, but do you know if "The Call" also made it to a CD-R?
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Post by funinspace81 on Jun 2, 2022 11:18:43 GMT
It's very lovely indeed. Now when i think of it, he could've included this in the "The Lot" boxset as another rare gem. Thanks for sharing pal! It would have never made it to The Lot. Roger wanted all the Queen related stuff to stay away from it. He even didn't want the IWTBF and RTWW live B-Sides in there.
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Post by inuliger on Jun 2, 2022 18:06:24 GMT
Thanks so much for sharing this! A (possibly) random question, but do you know if "The Call" also made it to a CD-R? Wilki mentioned on my Facebook post that there was also a BBC CD-R with "Say It's Not True" on it, but he hasn't divulged yet whether anything else was on that, so... I would say, maybe?
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Post by inuliger on Jun 2, 2022 18:06:51 GMT
It's very lovely indeed. Now when i think of it, he could've included this in the "The Lot" boxset as another rare gem. Thanks for sharing pal! It would have never made it to The Lot. Roger wanted all the Queen related stuff to stay away from it. He even didn't want the IWTBF and RTWW live B-Sides in there. This is absolutely correct. Which was a shame too.
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Post by cmsdrums on Jul 12, 2022 16:35:28 GMT
It's very lovely indeed. Now when i think of it, he could've included this in the "The Lot" boxset as another rare gem. Thanks for sharing pal! It would have never made it to The Lot. Roger wanted all the Queen related stuff to stay away from it. He even didn't want the IWTBF and RTWW live B-Sides in there. Yet he included The Cosmos Rocks demos…which ARE ‘Queen’ tracks!…..
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Post by funinspace81 on Jul 12, 2022 17:08:58 GMT
It would have never made it to The Lot. Roger wanted all the Queen related stuff to stay away from it. He even didn't want the IWTBF and RTWW live B-Sides in there. Yet he included The Cosmos Rocks demos…which ARE ‘Queen’ tracks!….. That's not the case IMHO: 'Whole House Rockin' was not a "Cosmos Rockin" QPR demo but a "real" RT solo unreleased track from the FOE sessions that was included in The Lot as a bonus to FOE. In other words, that track was as much a RT / Cross track like "Say It's Not True" from FOE, "Small" and "Heaven For Everyone" were. The track discussed in this thread is a Queen recording, which would have been out of context in The Lot (just like A Human Body or Hijack My Heart would have been, to name a few).
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Post by Egietje on Jul 12, 2022 18:34:58 GMT
Sorry if this isn't the right place for this, but after seeing this I decided to have a quick look at some different versions of Say It's Not True, and I found this version:
It has only Roger on vocals, but it seems to have the backing track of the Q+PR version. Does anyone recognize this version and know where it might originate? I couldn't find any other references to it, although I admit I didn't do a too extensive search.
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Post by Golden Salmon on Jul 12, 2022 19:02:44 GMT
Sorry if this isn't the right place for this, but after seeing this I decided to have a quick look at some different versions of Say It's Not True, and I found this version: It has only Roger on vocals, but it seems to have the backing track of the Q+PR version. Does anyone recognize this version and know where it might originate? I couldn't find any other references to it, although I admit I didn't do a too extensive search. This is a fan version made from AI-generated stems. There used to be a "Small" version that featured Queen's backing track and Roger's vocals, but I think it's been taken down.
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Post by Egietje on Jul 12, 2022 19:45:01 GMT
Sorry if this isn't the right place for this, but after seeing this I decided to have a quick look at some different versions of Say It's Not True, and I found this version: It has only Roger on vocals, but it seems to have the backing track of the Q+PR version. Does anyone recognize this version and know where it might originate? I couldn't find any other references to it, although I admit I didn't do a too extensive search. This is a fan version made from AI-generated stems. There used to be a "Small" version that featured Queen's backing track and Roger's vocals, but I think it's been taken down. Ah that makes sense, thought there might be some AI magic involved here
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Post by djgreg on Jul 13, 2022 8:53:15 GMT
Sorry if this isn't the right place for this, but after seeing this I decided to have a quick look at some different versions of Say It's Not True, and I found this version: It has only Roger on vocals, but it seems to have the backing track of the Q+PR version. Does anyone recognize this version and know where it might originate? I couldn't find any other references to it, although I admit I didn't do a too extensive search. This is a fan version made from AI-generated stems. There used to be a "Small" version that featured Queen's backing track and Roger's vocals, but I think it's been taken down. Here you go - Download link removed. If it was taken down it would have been for a copyrights breach. We can't have it uploaded on here. - LF
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Post by inuliger on Oct 19, 2022 17:09:40 GMT
Hi guys, I’ve decided to put up the CD for auction. My financial situation over the past year has been a bit up and down like a yo yo, and I’ve been carefully mulling over some items I’m comfortable parting with to help ease my situation. I’ve started the opening bid at about a third of the price I originally paid, and it will have the postage (registered mail) included in the bid amount. Thought there might be someone here who would be interested in a chance to get this for their collection. www.ebay.com/itm/334598450576
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Post by Golden Salmon on Oct 19, 2022 17:32:05 GMT
Sorry to hear that. Here's hoping your situation gets better soon enough!
Not sure this will be a popular idea, but what if we crowd-bid for this? You get money, we get an unreleased track!
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Post by Lord Fickle on Oct 19, 2022 17:39:02 GMT
Sorry to hear that. Here's hoping your situation gets better soon enough! Not sure this will be a popular idea, but what if we crowd-bid for this? You get money, we get an unreleased track! Not sure that would be possible, at least not through the forum. The notification of the eBay listing is fine, but we can't start getting into monetary arrangements on here.
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Post by Golden Salmon on Oct 19, 2022 17:50:34 GMT
Yeah, I understand. Just thinking of a win-win strategy for all.
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Post by inuliger on Oct 24, 2022 14:54:19 GMT
Just a quick little reminder, the auction ends in about a couple hours from now.
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