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Post by gerben on Feb 27, 2023 18:34:39 GMT
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Post by Lplix on Feb 27, 2023 19:04:16 GMT
if we are lucky we have to wait 10 years again….😁
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Post by Lord Fickle on Feb 27, 2023 20:53:56 GMT
I'm not really sure I'd want to relive those last few years. And I can't quite see why Brian and Roger would want to either. Surely it can't be for the money? Brian talks about a lot of things that never happen.
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Post by akirafish on Feb 27, 2023 23:13:49 GMT
I don’t see it really coming either. But Brian does crave for all the attention the movie brought.
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Post by Raf on Feb 28, 2023 1:03:57 GMT
I'm not really sure I'd want to relive those last few years. And I can't quite see why Brian and Roger would want to either. Surely it can't be for the money? Brian talks about a lot of things that never happen. They've been putting a lot of work into turning Freddie into some sort of hero over the past years. I suppose it's a mix of nostalgia/legitimately missing their old friend and actually realising that the public opinion is buying the whole "Freddie is a legend" idea and it helps keep them relevant. Maybe the money counts, I don't know, but they're very rich and somewhat old, and at this point I assume most Queen things they do is to remain relevant and enjoy themselves, and they cleary enjoy seeing people still talking about them, buying their merch and packing arenas to see them. And they certainly owe much of it to the fact that years after his death Freddie became a mythical character.
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Post by puma on Feb 28, 2023 7:47:50 GMT
I am not a big fan of the idea. I think the last days of Freddie's would be uneasy to watch.
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Post by The Fairy King on Feb 28, 2023 9:31:53 GMT
I'm not really sure I'd want to relive those last few years. And I can't quite see why Brian and Roger would want to either. Surely it can't be for the money? Brian talks about a lot of things that never happen. They've been putting a lot of work into turning Freddie into some sort of hero over the past years. I suppose it's a mix of nostalgia/legitimately missing their old friend and actually realising that the public opinion is buying the whole "Freddie is a legend" idea and it helps keep them relevant. Maybe the money counts, I don't know, but they're very rich and somewhat old, and at this point I assume most Queen things they do is to remain relevant and enjoy themselves, and they cleary enjoy seeing people still talking about them, buying their merch and packing arenas to see them. And they certainly owe much of it to the fact that years after his death Freddie became a mythical character. They were selling out arenas for years without the movie. I don't think they need a sequel for that. Sequels usually suck and a sequel for a biopic? Terrible idea.
This article reeks of clickbait, i mean it's Daily Star ffs.
I have seen this subject pop up ever since the movie came out.
Etc..i could go on
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Post by awordinyourear on Feb 28, 2023 10:51:22 GMT
Not sure if a sequel would actually work, most people want to feel good after coming out from a cinema. If this new movie covers the time period from "Live Aid to Freddie's death" and what he has to deal with, as heartfelt as they try to make it, it would come across a very depressing story to tell... although if the do it as Sequel/Prequel, Freddie reflecting on his life & do it as a origins type of tale, I suppose that would work as a movie, but not sure how they could fit in all the Songs..
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Post by Raf on Feb 28, 2023 16:15:49 GMT
They've been putting a lot of work into turning Freddie into some sort of hero over the past years. I suppose it's a mix of nostalgia/legitimately missing their old friend and actually realising that the public opinion is buying the whole "Freddie is a legend" idea and it helps keep them relevant. Maybe the money counts, I don't know, but they're very rich and somewhat old, and at this point I assume most Queen things they do is to remain relevant and enjoy themselves, and they cleary enjoy seeing people still talking about them, buying their merch and packing arenas to see them. And they certainly owe much of it to the fact that years after his death Freddie became a mythical character. They were selling out arenas for years without the movie. I don't think they need a sequel for that. Sequels usually suck and a sequel for a biopic? Terrible idea.
I'm not saying a movie on its own sells tickets, but the whole mix of overexposing the brand Queen in media, building the myth of Freddie Mercury and, let's face it, joining forces with a younger singer, with a stronger appeal to younger audiences (and the whole LGBTQIA+ audience) than two 70-something-year-old straight gray heads. Let's face it, back in the QPR days, playing a mixed setlist with an equally older singer they were mostly playing smaller arenas, with an odd exception here and there. Now, after churning a ton of re-releases of Greatest Hits + live albums with literally just a pic of Freddie Mercury on the cover and playing a setlist more filled with Freddie-penned songs sung by a younger, charismatic and fashionable singer they're doing festival tours. I'd love to agree that the music is what matters, but we know damn well public image and good marketing have a stronger impact on sales. I think the biopic is part of the whole "make Queen cool again" package. But just to make it clear, I do agree with you that it could be bollocks that there'll be another movie. I just think it makes sense considering the possibility that Brian and Roger really want to end their careers on a high note rather than just fading into history, no matter how much money they already have and how much easier it would've been to just retire and spend the rest of their lives mowing the lawn and living off royalties.
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Post by Golden Salmon on Feb 28, 2023 18:42:26 GMT
If this does happen, it'll flop. To say the least, it will fall short compared to the original for the sad ending alone.
That said, bets for the film's title:
- Who Wants To Live Forever - The Show Must Go On - Made In Heaven
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Post by The Fairy King on Feb 28, 2023 19:56:34 GMT
If this does happen, it'll flop. To say the least, it will fall short compared to the original for the sad ending alone. That said, bets for the film's title: - Who Wants To Live Forever- The Show Must Go On - Made In Heaven
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Post by merplot on Mar 1, 2023 9:37:43 GMT
If it ever does get made I hope they get a better film editor. That first one gave me motion sickness with all the jump cuts.
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Post by gary on Mar 1, 2023 16:13:10 GMT
Well I hated the first one, thought the timeline and Rami Malek's acting was awful. I for one will not be rushing to see it.......IF it ever gets made. They will probably cover Freddie's demise in the first 30 minutes, then devote the rest of the film to how they have continued without him ( which they should never have done IMO)
Just wish they would release the definitive live collection (covering every tour) then........... RETIRE!!!
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Post by Lord Fickle on Mar 1, 2023 16:49:57 GMT
Well I hated the first one, thought the timeline and Rami Malek's acting was awful. I for one will not be rushing to see it.......IF it ever gets made. They will probably cover Freddie's demise in the first 30 minutes, then devote the rest of the film to how they have continued without him ( which they should never have done IMO) Just wish they would release the definitive live collection (covering every tour) then........... RETIRE!!! To be fair, I get the impression the actors were chosen for their looks, rather than acting ability, but I've always thought Luke Spiller from The Struts would have made a good Freddie. The guy who played Brian, however, had him down to a tee. 🙂
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Post by gooddrills on Mar 1, 2023 22:45:12 GMT
Luke Spiller - that’s not a bad call. I’m not a fan of the original, watched it once, won’t ever watch it again. I didn’t like what they did with the story/timeline and I really didn’t think Rami was a good fit. I do like that it attracted a new generation of fans. A sequel sounds like an awful idea though, but then what do I know?
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Post by pg on Mar 2, 2023 7:05:29 GMT
Who says Freddie has to die in the sequel?
It's not as if the first one was accurate...
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Post by angusscrimm on Mar 2, 2023 16:24:49 GMT
Hell no. First one was bad enough. And I'm also not up for reliving the loss.
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Post by Makka on Mar 2, 2023 16:25:23 GMT
Horrible idea. I can see it being a massive failure compared to the first. I hope it doesn't happen. Enjoy the success of the first and leave it there.
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Post by Maxi Dries on Mar 2, 2023 17:16:54 GMT
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Post by kosimodo on Mar 3, 2023 19:34:39 GMT
I dont mind if. Startong with lived aid.. then the magic of queen. Having aids. A miracle. Innuendos.. dying. made in heaven. a movie ending with mother love with only His vocals would bring tears in everybodys eyes. Nothing wrong with that.
As long as they stick to reality. The last movie i couldnt watch again.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Mar 4, 2023 10:41:14 GMT
Not one of their best ideas. The golden years of the band were 1975-85. 1986-97 mean practically nothing at all to the casual movie-going music fan. This'll tank and find itself in Suitable Sequel Company Lest we forget...
Basic Instinct 2 Caddyshack 2 Highlander II: The Quickening Jaws: the Revenge Species 2 Speed II - Cruise Control Staying Alive Teen Wolf Too The Ring 2 The Sting II
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Post by Lord Fickle on Mar 4, 2023 11:22:43 GMT
Not one of their best ideas. The golden years of the band were 1975-85. 1986-97 mean practically nothing at all to the casual movie-going music fan. This'll tank and find itself in Suitable Sequel Company Lest we forget... Basic Instinct 2 Caddyshack 2 Highlander II: The Quickening Jaws: the Revenge Species 2 Speed II - Cruise Control Staying Alive Teen Wolf Too The Ring 2 The Sting II ... and puts them in danger of going out on a low, rather than a high, which I think would hurt Brian in particular. All the years rebuilding, only to finish with 'Fred's dead again', doesn't really seem a fitting way to retire. The only way to do it might be to have half of the movie documenting Freddie's illness and death, then the second half showing the gradual resurfacing, up to the present day. They could then go out on a final tour to close the book.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Mar 4, 2023 12:16:44 GMT
... and puts them in danger of going out on a low, rather than a high, which I think would hurt Brian in particular. All the years rebuilding, only to finish with 'Fred's dead again', doesn't really seem a fitting way to retire. in that case it'll need a fitting title: ♦ Drop Dead Fred (already done) ♦ MAMMA MIA! HERE WE GO AGAIN - BISMILLAH NO! ♦ Return of the Fredi ♦ Return of the Living Fred here's a couple:
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Post by primejiveusa on Mar 4, 2023 18:16:02 GMT
I think another reason it would fail, at least in America, is that the music they released during the later years was not popular or well known. The trailers that piqued the interest for the first film utilised WWRY/AOBTD/BoRhap. For the sequel the music just wouldn't resonate with general audiences...One Vision...A Kind of Magic...These Are the Days of our Lives would illicit a collective "huuuuhhh???". The later stuff still gets zero radio exposure here. It's all about 1973-81 here.
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Post by coolcat27 on Apr 22, 2023 16:51:58 GMT
I think it could work if they stuck to the real story. As others have said, there's a ton of drama in this sad yet inspiring tale. Freddie facing certain doom but throwing himself into his music. The band backing Freddie against the evil tabloids. Freddie hanging on for far longer than his doctors expected, continuing to live life on his terms. Working hard to keep his condition secret, though it grew harder every day. I would focus solely on 1985 to 1991. That's the story. If they want to give it a happy ending, end with the Tribute Concert or Made in Heaven. Nothing beyond that. Also, I think that even though the band's latter day songs aren't that well known in America, a film like this could serve to introduce US audiences to brilliant tracks like I Want It All, Innuendo, The Show Must Go On, These Are The Days of Our Lives, Was It All Worth It, Don't Try So Hard, etc. Queen's profile has been raised through the success of the first film. Americans really didn't hear those songs back in the day because Queen had such a low profile in the US in the mid-'80s and beyond. I have a feeling people would love those songs as much as I did when I finally heard them.
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Post by jw224 on Apr 27, 2023 13:47:50 GMT
Didn't they already say that it would focus on the band after Freddie?
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Post by billy on May 2, 2023 4:50:23 GMT
Not one of their best ideas. The golden years of the band were 1975-85. 1986-97 mean practically nothing at all to the casual movie-going music fan. This'll tank and find itself in Suitable Sequel Company Lest we forget... Basic Instinct 2 Caddyshack 2 Highlander II: The Quickening Jaws: the Revenge Species 2 Speed II - Cruise Control Staying Alive Teen Wolf Too The Ring 2 The Sting II Good point. But they’re probably only looking at films like The Godfather Part II Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior Toy Story 2 Terminator 2: Judgement Day Aliens So instead of continuing the story, why not retell the same story but this time focus on Brian? While Freddie’s handling baggage at the airport we see Brian building a guitar with his dad and watching the Sky at Night. Then he’s studying at school but also playing with Smile. He goes to Tenerife and writes Tie Your Mother Down (or ‘39) but then drops out of of his Doctorate program when Freddie joins the band. His dad is upset about that. Brian gets married and has kids as Queen become a success, but struggles with life on the road and in the studio away from his family. Then his marriage falls apart and he falls in love with Anita and then finishes his PhD while Freddie is off in Munich. (Montage to Save Me?) And just before they play Live Aid he and his dad reconcile when he becomes Dr Brian May! Still working on getting badgers in there somewhere. And fresh new jokes taking the piss out of I’m in Love With My Car. And of course his Knighthood... It will be great I tell you! Boffo box office! The kids will eat it up! /s
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Post by Dimitris on May 2, 2023 12:36:35 GMT
Not one of their best ideas. The golden years of the band were 1975-85. 1986-97 mean practically nothing at all to the casual movie-going music fan. This'll tank and find itself in Suitable Sequel Company Lest we forget... Basic Instinct 2 Caddyshack 2 Highlander II: The Quickening Jaws: the Revenge Species 2 Speed II - Cruise Control Staying Alive Teen Wolf Too The Ring 2 The Sting II Good point. But they’re probably only looking at films like The Godfather Part II Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior Toy Story 2 Terminator 2: Judgement Day Aliens So instead of continuing the story, why not retell the same story but this time focus on Brian? While Freddie’s handling baggage at the airport we see Brian building a guitar with his dad and watching the Sky at Night. Then he’s studying at school but also playing with Smile. He goes to Tenerife and writes Tie Your Mother Down (or ‘39) but then drops out of of his Doctorate program when Freddie joins the band. His dad is upset about that. Brian gets married and has kids as Queen become a success, but struggles with life on the road and in the studio away from his family. Then his marriage falls apart and he falls in love with Anita and then finishes his PhD while Freddie is off in Munich. (Montage to Save Me?) And just before they play Live Aid he and his dad reconcile when he becomes Dr Brian May! Still working on getting badgers in there somewhere. And fresh new jokes taking the piss out of I’m in Love With My Car. And of course his Knighthood... It will be great I tell you! Boffo box office! The kids will eat it up! /s If they are clever , they could create a nice "comedy" based on Queen touring. So we will have a good soundtrack with live songs and "comedy" full of energy film with different situations on the road, backstage and on stage.
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Post by Lord Fickle on May 2, 2023 13:00:43 GMT
Good point. But they’re probably only looking at films like The Godfather Part II Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior Toy Story 2 Terminator 2: Judgement Day Aliens So instead of continuing the story, why not retell the same story but this time focus on Brian? While Freddie’s handling baggage at the airport we see Brian building a guitar with his dad and watching the Sky at Night. Then he’s studying at school but also playing with Smile. He goes to Tenerife and writes Tie Your Mother Down (or ‘39) but then drops out of of his Doctorate program when Freddie joins the band. His dad is upset about that. Brian gets married and has kids as Queen become a success, but struggles with life on the road and in the studio away from his family. Then his marriage falls apart and he falls in love with Anita and then finishes his PhD while Freddie is off in Munich. (Montage to Save Me?) And just before they play Live Aid he and his dad reconcile when he becomes Dr Brian May! Still working on getting badgers in there somewhere. And fresh new jokes taking the piss out of I’m in Love With My Car. And of course his Knighthood... It will be great I tell you! Boffo box office! The kids will eat it up! /s If they are clever , they could create a nice "comedy" based on Queen touring. So we will have a good soundtrack with live songs and "comedy" full of energy film with different situations on the road, backstage and on stage. There's nothing much 'comedic' about the way it ended though, so that would very much be a film of two halves. If you mean just concentrate on the Magic tour, that would then pave the way for a second sequel... 😱🫣😫
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Post by Dimitris on May 2, 2023 13:36:38 GMT
If they are clever , they could create a nice "comedy" based on Queen touring. So we will have a good soundtrack with live songs and "comedy" full of energy film with different situations on the road, backstage and on stage. There's nothing much 'comedic' about the way it ended though, so that would very much be a film of two halves. If you mean just concentrate on the Magic tour, that would then pave the way for a second sequel... 😱🫣😫 I mean a movie focusing on touring days especially on the things that happened which may have fun. For sure there are many stories. In terms of costumes, lighting rigs Hollywood could do miracles. The soundtrack could be a live compilation.
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