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Post by Golden Salmon on May 9, 2022 5:11:31 GMT
it seems as well that in a spanish interview to Brian May about the rerelease of Another World he confirms that The Miracle Box Set will be released. I need to buy that magazine Please provide links or any specific info on the magazine. |
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Post by jjmillenium on May 9, 2022 13:30:31 GMT
Is on This Is Rock, a spanish magazine. I need to buy it and check it
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Post by donovan on May 9, 2022 13:43:03 GMT
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Post by Ri on May 9, 2022 16:37:20 GMT
It seems so, thank you!
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Post by velizar on May 9, 2022 18:59:04 GMT
Just a question... How are we sure that the link above is trustworthy? The box still isn't announced officially. Plus, it seems unreal for a box of one single LP to contain 8 discs, doesn't it? |
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Post by pg on May 9, 2022 19:50:41 GMT
Although the Metallica box is indeed 8 discs, I agree that's unlikely to be replicated.
In short, no bugger knows, it's all speculation and hope
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Post by highlander on May 9, 2022 20:10:51 GMT
Just a question... How are we sure that the link above is trustworthy? The box still isn't announced officially. Plus, it seems unreal for a box of one single LP to contain 8 discs, doesn't it?
Here is the size comparison I made earlier in this thread.
Size: 5 x 14 x 12.5 cm
Weight: 819 g
It can't be a box-set with the CD singles as they would not have enough room to be placed in a box with the measurements we have on the Amazon website.
From my knowledge about different music packaging formats it looks either like a very fat digipack or a box with CDs in card sleeves but still at the shape of one normal jewel case from the front.
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Post by Lord Fickle on May 9, 2022 20:34:02 GMT
Although the Metallica box is indeed 8 discs, I agree that's unlikely to be replicated. In short, no bugger knows, it's all speculation and hope ... including from Amazon. I don't see the point of listing an unknown product with no release date. It's not as though anyone can pre-order it. I know it's nice to dream, but I really don't see any reason to get excited until there's an official announcement. |
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Post by wijnand on May 10, 2022 13:59:16 GMT
8 discs in cardsleeves will be something like:
Disc 1 - Album
Disc 2 - The Miracle single
Disc 3 - The Invisible Man single
Disc 4 - Scandal single
Disc 5 - I Want It All single
Disc 6 - Breakthru single
Disc 7 - Instrumentals or Extended versions
Disc 8 - Inverview disc
Well... We just wait and see :-)
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Post by Chinwonder2 on May 11, 2022 21:07:59 GMT
Just spotted this listing... no idea if there's any truth in any of this...
www.yes24.com/product/goods/107094635?fbclid=iwar3aoeixvmjiwcer3b1w0i52rxq58a-j3lec1nzujiemvxyoilfylqsqj1i‘THE MIRACLE’ SUPER DELUXE COLLECTOR’S EDITION (8 DISC)
- CD1: 2011 Bob Ludwig master
- CD2: The Miracle Sessions & Outtakes
- CD3: Single Versions, B-Sides & Live Versions
- CD4: Instrumentals & Backing Tracks
- CD5: Band Interviews (includes the last ever interview with the 4 band members together)
- DISC 6 (Blu-ray): HD Promo Videos & Other ‘The Miracle’ Era Footage
- DISC 7 (DVD): HD Promo Videos & Other ‘The Miracle’ Era Footage
- DISC 8 (LP): 180-gram 1LP vinyl featuring the 2011 Bob Ludwig master plus additional track “Too Much Love Will Kill You”, in a different version to the one that came out on ‘Made In Heaven’, creating the Original Long Lost Cut
- 72 Page Hardcover Book
- 4 x Individual Band Head Shot Photos
- 2 x Posters
- 2 x Postcards
... Expected release date October 28, 2022
Converted to around £191.52 |
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Post by Lord Fickle on May 11, 2022 21:23:26 GMT
Just spotted this listing... no idea if there's any truth in any of this...
www.yes24.com/product/goods/107094635?fbclid=iwar3aoeixvmjiwcer3b1w0i52rxq58a-j3lec1nzujiemvxyoilfylqsqj1i‘THE MIRACLE’ SUPER DELUXE COLLECTOR’S EDITION (8 DISC)
- CD1: 2011 Bob Ludwig master
- CD2: The Miracle Sessions & Outtakes
- CD3: Single Versions, B-Sides & Live Versions
- CD4: Instrumentals & Backing Tracks
- CD5: Band Interviews (includes the last ever interview with the 4 band members together)
- DISC 6 (Blu-ray): HD Promo Videos & Other ‘The Miracle’ Era Footage
- DISC 7 (DVD): HD Promo Videos & Other ‘The Miracle’ Era Footage
- DISC 8 (LP): 180-gram 1LP vinyl featuring the 2011 Bob Ludwig master plus additional track “Too Much Love Will Kill You”, in a different version to the one that came out on ‘Made In Heaven’, creating the Original Long Lost Cut
- 72 Page Hardcover Book
- 4 x Individual Band Head Shot Photos
- 2 x Posters
- 2 x Postcards
... Expected release date October 28, 2022
Converted to around £191.52CD3 looks iffy - what live versions? If I've got to buy another sodding vinyl to get one interesting disc (Hello NOTW), I won't be very happy. |
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Post by antonio on May 11, 2022 21:25:55 GMT
Live versions.... Stone Cold Crazy & My Melancholy Blues...As B-Sides....
EDIT: Well...Or they think to include songs like I Want It All played on Another World Tour or with Adam Lambert....
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Post by jjmillenium on May 11, 2022 21:47:26 GMT
well, feels like very 'queen productions' kind of project to me, so it could be true
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Post by Steve on May 11, 2022 22:13:59 GMT
That yes24 link has been removed.
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Post by Egietje on May 11, 2022 22:27:30 GMT
That yes24 link has been removed. Seems to work fine for me Also for disc 8 (assuming this is indeed what'll be released): - DISC 8 (LP): 180-gram 1LP vinyl featuring the 2011 Bob Ludwig master plus additional track “Too Much Love Will Kill You”, in a different version to the one that came out on ‘Made In Heaven’, creating the Original Long Lost Cut
Didn't we always assume or know the version from Made In Heaven was the same that would have been on The Miracle and wasn't worked on at all after Freddie's death for Made In Heaven, unlike the other songs on there? At least that's what I think I've heard somewhere. Would this then maybe just be a demo/rough version, or was it reworked after all? (of course there'll be no way to tell until it's released, just something to ponder) |
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Post by leroybrown on May 11, 2022 22:35:52 GMT
The disc breakdown looks like a genuine Queen product to me.
As soon as I saw a disc of interviews it felt like the real thing. The instrumentals disc is also a likely addition. Lastly and sadly is the inclusion of a vinyl. Whilst I appreciate Brian’s opinion on the sound of vinyl it is foolish for Queen to assume everyone has a turntable. The vinyl adds dead weight to a product and is wasteful if customers can’t enjoy it.
The Brian box sets confirms further that Brian believes there’s only one customer type out there, and that customer only wants what Brian wants. The idea of The Miracle vinyl with the missing track is a very nice addition for those that will spin the disc.
The ‘live tracks’ disc sounds odd because I think they will veer away from including non-era tracks. I do love the live version of My Melancholy Blues but it belongs elsewhere. I can see this disc being the extended, singles, b-sides and bonus tracks.
So my vote is this listing is near accurate.
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Post by Raf on May 11, 2022 22:40:56 GMT
Live versions.... Stone Cold Crazy & My Melancholy Blues...As B-Sides....
EDIT: Well...Or they think to include songs like I Want It All played on Another World Tour or with Adam Lambert....
Probably I Want It All from the Freddie Tribute Concert, Q+PR and/or Q+AL. Still bummed they don't play any other Miracle song either on solo concerts or Q+ projects.  TMLWKY from the Freddie Tribute could be an option too. I don't think they'd put solo stuff on a boxset, compilation or re-release, considering the only time they've ever done that was on GH3. But then I've never seen them include Q+PR/Q+AL on the 2011 re-releases either... |
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Post by leroybrown on May 11, 2022 22:41:16 GMT
That yes24 link has been removed. Seems to work fine for me Also for disc 8 (assuming this is indeed what'll be released): - DISC 8 (LP): 180-gram 1LP vinyl featuring the 2011 Bob Ludwig master plus additional track “Too Much Love Will Kill You”, in a different version to the one that came out on ‘Made In Heaven’, creating the Original Long Lost Cut
Didn't we always assume or know the version from Made In Heaven was the same that would have been on The Miracle and wasn't worked on at all after Freddie's death for Made In Heaven, unlike the other songs on there? At least that's what I think I've heard somewhere. Would this then maybe just be a demo/rough version, or was it reworked after all? (of course there'll be no way to tell until it's released, just something to ponder) It cannot be a rough mix. It will have to be a version that fits with the more polished production throughout the album. That said, it’s possible there’ll be minor differences because Brian and Co may have polished the released version a little for Made in Heaven. There was a promo single released titled ‘Too Much Love’. Did anyone here own this and was it a different version? That’s the best guideline for what version was intended on the original album. |
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Post by Lord Fickle on May 11, 2022 22:47:45 GMT
Surely they wouldn't put a different version of TMLWKY only on the vinyl? That would be a real kick in the guts for non-vinylers. Forced to buy an LP we can't play, which includes an exclusive track we can't hear. 🤨
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Post by pg on May 11, 2022 22:58:32 GMT
Weren't there live tracks as B sides for The Miracle single? maybe that's how "live tracks" are making it on....assuming this is real, which feels depressingly possible at this point.
Instrumentals AND backing tracks? How spoilt are we?
Blu Ray players can play DVDs can't they? So unless the video content was originally on film AND has been transferred to 4K, the Blu Ray disc is redundant.
Vinyl should be separate. Sell a CD box, a single CD, a vinyl LP, and a special combo purchase of the box and the LP. To do otherwise is environmentally irresponsible, Brian - zero use plastic!
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Post by hoopdiddy on May 11, 2022 23:33:23 GMT
Blu Ray players can play DVDs can't they? So unless the video content was originally on film AND has been transferred to 4K, the Blu Ray disc is redundant. They can but SD material will still look better on Blu-ray than on their DVD counterpart. |
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Post by inuliger on May 12, 2022 0:26:34 GMT
That yes24 link has been removed. Seems to work fine for me Also for disc 8 (assuming this is indeed what'll be released): - DISC 8 (LP): 180-gram 1LP vinyl featuring the 2011 Bob Ludwig master plus additional track “Too Much Love Will Kill You”, in a different version to the one that came out on ‘Made In Heaven’, creating the Original Long Lost Cut
Didn't we always assume or know the version from Made In Heaven was the same that would have been on The Miracle and wasn't worked on at all after Freddie's death for Made In Heaven, unlike the other songs on there? At least that's what I think I've heard somewhere. Would this then maybe just be a demo/rough version, or was it reworked after all? (of course there'll be no way to tell until it's released, just something to ponder) There was a Capitol Records executive promo tape that had the same version as MIH on there, so maybe we might end up getting an earlier mix instead? |
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Post by inuliger on May 12, 2022 0:28:37 GMT
There was a promo single released titled ‘Too Much Love’. Did anyone here own this and was it a different version? That’s the best guideline for what version was intended on the original album. If you're talking about the US and UK promo CD-Singles issued around 1996, those had an edited version done by David Richards which trimmed the song (rather effectively). |
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Post by leroybrown on May 12, 2022 0:50:21 GMT
There was a promo single released titled ‘Too Much Love’. Did anyone here own this and was it a different version? That’s the best guideline for what version was intended on the original album. If you're talking about the US and UK promo CD-Singles issued around 1996, those had an edited version done by David Richards which trimmed the song (rather effectively). Around the time of The Miracle there was a promo single vinyl being sold thru the Record Collector magazine. I remember it well because when the album was released I was left wondering what happened to the song. |
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Post by highlander on May 12, 2022 1:14:12 GMT
I'd like to buy disc 2, 4 and 6 individually!
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Post by velizar on May 12, 2022 4:39:57 GMT
Actually, it looks more promising than the contents on the NOTW box. We will see demos, instrumentals and HD footage. So it's not all too bad. Would love to put my hands on the box once it gets out.
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Post by Plengel on May 12, 2022 5:33:25 GMT
If this is it, then I'm actually quite happy with it. Some thoughts though:
* I really do hope that the Live Versions on the third disc are the Live B-sides of the single releases or mabel they have rehearsed some songs for one off Live performance. It would be a real bumper if it would turn out to be Q+AL or Q+PR performance of I Want It All. Even solo Live or Tribute concert performances would be a dissapointment to me.
* If they are doing an Instrumental and Backing Tracks disc, I hope they will do one for every original track. I alwaar have the feeling of incompleteness when the include only a couple of instrumentals. There is so much to discover there!
* Blu-ray and DVD with the same contents seems a bit too much of the same to me. Choose one please.
* The sessions, demo's and rarities disc looks interesting, but be aware that it might be that the lot on this disc we might have already heard. How many minutes of mysic fit on one CD nowadays? 80? We have already heard a lot, e.g. I Guess We're Falling Out, Stealin' (12 minutes version), etc. If these are included as well, there might be not too much room left for something unheard. It would be in pristine quality though, which is fine by me.
* Although I'm not able to play LP's currently, I think it adds to the Limited, Extended, Special edition type of thing. Hell, I would find it rather cool if they'd include a cassette copy of The Teaser Tape or the Capitol Records Preview Tape
* If the converted price is somewhere in the range of what the real product will cost, then it is actually not that bad. Still a overpriced when compared to other artists special releases, but since it includes twee as many discs as the NOTW boxset, they could have easily charges double for it.
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Post by dysan on May 12, 2022 6:44:09 GMT
Looks like a nice bundle tbh. If they feel the need to stick on some out-of-era live stuff in order to sweeten the deal of releasing out takes and demos, I'm totally fine with that. A shame it's not coming out in the summer though as for me it's probably the ultimate 'summer' album of my younger years. Would've been nice to spend a couple of sunny day exploring this new version and tap right back into summer '89 when this album was hot stuff (no hindsight applied).
Looks wistfully out of window.
EDIT: just whacked it on as it's sunny here. First time in ages and you know what, it hit me right in the feels. 'Party' still feels as insane as it did in 1989. I guess you had to be there. TMLWKY would really ruin the flow.
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Post by highlander on May 12, 2022 10:10:06 GMT
Actually, it looks more promising than the contents on the NOTW box. We will see demos, instrumentals and HD footage. So it's not all too bad. Would love to put my hands on the box once it gets out. The problem though is that despite HD meaning "High Definition" it does not guarantee that it will be the same "HD" as maybe the nice restored Hungarian Rhapsody concert footage as example. It can be upscaled to HD and still be an old transfer for Greatest Flix II. It does not say "restored" which would make more sence if the video were shot on film in the first place and then this would be an indicator, that we would see the videos in true high definition.
Upscaled is better than nothing of course but if it makes a huge part of the price I have mixed feelings about this. Other artists have upscaled versions of their videos on YouTube... for free.
Does anyone here have the feeling too that the Instrumentals & Backing Tracks are included so that people can either make remixes of these songs or that people can filter the vocals via AI to create more fake-live versions of Queen songs that were never performed live? Now that would be a very nice and creative move.
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Post by Lord Fickle on May 12, 2022 10:15:01 GMT
Does anyone here have the feeling too that the Instrumentals & Backing Tracks are included so that people can either make remixes of these songs or that people can filter the vocals via AI to create more fake-live versions of Queen songs that were never performed live? Now that would be a very nice and creative move. No, I don't believe they would want to encourage that sort of behaviour. 😁 The Instrumentals and Backing Tracks are probably just an easy way to create an extra disc to bolster the product and inflate the retail price. If they provided downloads for all the multitracks, that would be a different matter. |
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