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Post by leroybrown on May 14, 2022 23:33:23 GMT
Around the time of The Miracle there was a promo single vinyl being sold thru the Record Collector magazine. I remember it well because when the album was released I was left wondering what happened to the song. Are you absolutely sure about this? I've never heard of that promo vinyl, and that is one of my collecting specialties there... Do you recall which Record Collector issue advertised this? I’m certain. It was in the back page classifieds where they sold the promos being sent to radio dj’s. When Brian played it at the Freddie Tribute I wondered if it were the same song, and whether the lyrics would have stirred up press rumours if Queen had released it. i can’t say what issue it was in but I can tell you I knew a song called Too Much Love existed at the time of The Miracle.
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Post by gooddrills on May 15, 2022 1:53:55 GMT
Sorry if this has been mentioned in the forum and I’ve missed it, but has anyone else noticed that most versions of Face It Alone have been removed from YouTube? I can’t find any with vocals now and there used to be a handful. I assume it could be linked to this up and coming release, depending on when the demo was worked on i.e. 1988/89
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Post by velizar on May 15, 2022 5:53:00 GMT
Sorry if this has been mentioned in the forum and I’ve missed it, but has anyone else noticed that most versions of Face It Alone have been removed from YouTube? I can’t find any with vocals now and there used to be a handful. I assume it could be linked to this up and coming release, depending on when the demo was worked on i.e. 1988/89 That's actually interesting. I found some videos with vocals floating in YT though
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on May 15, 2022 6:02:29 GMT
well the FIA demo is from '89 - so it's more likely it wasn't considered - or much had been done on it during the Miracle sessions, but was brought back and worked up to "demo" status for possible inclusion on Innuendo?
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Post by pg on May 15, 2022 6:22:18 GMT
Are you absolutely sure about this? I've never heard of that promo vinyl, and that is one of my collecting specialties there... Do you recall which Record Collector issue advertised this? I’m certain. It was in the back page classifieds where they sold the promos being sent to radio dj’s. When Brian played it at the Freddie Tribute I wondered if it were the same song, and whether the lyrics would have stirred up press rumours if Queen had released it. i can’t say what issue it was in but I can tell you I knew a song called Too Much Love existed at the time of The Miracle. The big deal at the time was the IWIA promo 7" with the silhouette artwork, a Q in the bottom right corner. I don't remember this either, and I would have scoured those classifieds...
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Post by inuliger on May 15, 2022 6:54:35 GMT
I’m certain. It was in the back page classifieds where they sold the promos being sent to radio dj’s. When Brian played it at the Freddie Tribute I wondered if it were the same song, and whether the lyrics would have stirred up press rumours if Queen had released it. i can’t say what issue it was in but I can tell you I knew a song called Too Much Love existed at the time of The Miracle. The big deal at the time was the IWIA promo 7" with the silhouette artwork, a Q in the bottom right corner. I don't remember this either, and I would have scoured those classifieds... That's right, you're talking about this one www.discogs.com/release/4963061-Queen-I-Want-It-All
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Post by rogercz on May 15, 2022 8:32:36 GMT
I hope that we will not get IWIA single version, Khashoggi's Ship (Deep Cuts version) we already have, but I guess that this will fill a major space on the only interesting discs. I don't understand why they include both DVD and BR, my laptop doesn't even have any CD/DVD/BR-ROM and most of people don't have a special player device connected to TV for this case... Download link would be better for me.
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Post by Dimitris on May 15, 2022 8:47:55 GMT
I believe depending on how many different formats and its content, The Miracle has big potential to be number #1 again.
Probably if there is any interesting song almost completed, a single could promote the re-issue, TMLWKY, IGWAFO or FIA are potentially candidates.
Unless they will re-issue any of The Miracle singles.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on May 15, 2022 8:59:53 GMT
Probably if there is any interesting song almost completed, a single could promote the re-issue, TMLWKY, IGWAFO or FIA are potentially candidates. hard to see that happening, really. cold light of day and QPL history tells us that single album re-issues are usually a remastering, rather than an overhaul of the content. "if" The Miracle does see the light of day as a standalone re-issue, it's unlikely there'll be anything different to the tracklisting of the "Bob Ludwig master" - why would they be bothered to reinvent their own wheel?
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Post by Golden Salmon on May 15, 2022 9:51:58 GMT
why would they be bothered to reinvent their own wheel? *cough* greatest hits *cough*
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Post by Dimitris on May 15, 2022 9:53:45 GMT
Probably if there is any interesting song almost completed, a single could promote the re-issue, TMLWKY, IGWAFO or FIA are potentially candidates. hard to see that happening, really. cold light of day and QPL history tells us that single album re-issues are usually a remastering, rather than an overhaul of the content. "if" The Miracle does see the light of day as a standalone re-issue, it's unlikely there'll be anything different to the tracklisting of the "Bob Ludwig master" - why would they be bothered to reinvent their own wheel? The only reason to include or do something special is to create a story for selling the album to new audience. For example a new unheard song from the final years, when the miracle could be their last album etc. The years 1988-1991 are not popular in general public. The album was not successful in US and was huge in Europe, but after its cycle was completed, it didn't stay in puplic conscience like The Game or The Works even AKOM. These albums from 80s did very good catalog sales for many years. I think that, Queen will announce in mid-summer a US mini tour or something similar, in order to promote the album in US.
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Post by Lord Fickle on May 15, 2022 10:29:01 GMT
why would they be bothered to reinvent their own wheel? *cough* greatest hits *cough* That's recycling, not reinventing. That album should have a zero carbon footprint. 😄
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on May 15, 2022 13:30:08 GMT
hard to see that happening, really. cold light of day and QPL history tells us that single album re-issues are usually a remastering, rather than an overhaul of the content. "if" The Miracle does see the light of day as a standalone re-issue, it's unlikely there'll be anything different to the tracklisting of the "Bob Ludwig master" - why would they be bothered to reinvent their own wheel? The only reason to include or do something special is to create a story for selling the album to new audience. For example a new unheard song from the final years, when the miracle could be their last album etc. the 2011 Deluxe re-release did as much as the band were willing to do. All of the other tracks not included in that release were already well-known in fan circles in 2011. In fact many of them had already been "leaked" in one form or another by 2011. If the band were disinterested in issuing this "leaked stuff" back in 2011, I can't see their motivation for doing so now. The 2011 QAL tour was accompanied by a plethora of these "deluxe reissues" - that was the motivation then - and the extra tracks in that release were what they were willing to let us have on a standalone release. The boxset *may* have some extras, but not a standalone reissue - as (in addition to the above) it discourages sales of the boxset
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Post by Dimitris on May 15, 2022 14:35:24 GMT
The only reason to include or do something special is to create a story for selling the album to new audience. For example a new unheard song from the final years, when the miracle could be their last album etc. the 2011 Deluxe re-release did as much as the band were willing to do. All of the other tracks not included in that release were already well-known in fan circles in 2011. In fact many of them had already been "leaked" in one form or another by 2011. If the band were disinterested in issuing this "leaked stuff" back in 2011, I can't see their motivation for doing so now. The 2011 QAL tour was accompanied by a plethora of these "deluxe reissues" - that was the motivation then - and the extra tracks in that release were what they were willing to let us have on a standalone release. The boxset *may* have some extras, but not a standalone reissue - as (in addition to the above) it discourages sales of the boxset In 2011 I think that, they (Queen) were less interest and gave less bonus, is because their first contract with island records- its period was only for 3 years and included Forever compilation. Things changed after 2014. The 2012 tour was not as big as 2015-2016 even the 2014 US tour. In 2012 Queen made a contract with itunes covering Russia and Eastern Europe. Thus the small East Europe tour.
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Post by djgreg on May 16, 2022 7:36:42 GMT
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Post by Golden Salmon on May 16, 2022 7:48:48 GMT
Haha, you just brought back memories from 20 years ago: Funny to think this was mentioned in 2001...
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Post by georg on May 16, 2022 12:47:39 GMT
Wow, a 21-year-old relic from the past there! How little we knew back then…
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Post by baronlutenvank on May 16, 2022 14:29:15 GMT
Whoa! He really promised all that?
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Post by The Real Wizard on May 16, 2022 14:32:37 GMT
Are you absolutely sure about this? I've never heard of that promo vinyl, and that is one of my collecting specialties there... Do you recall which Record Collector issue advertised this? I’m certain. It was in the back page classifieds where they sold the promos being sent to radio dj’s. When Brian played it at the Freddie Tribute I wondered if it were the same song, and whether the lyrics would have stirred up press rumours if Queen had released it. i can’t say what issue it was in but I can tell you I knew a song called Too Much Love existed at the time of The Miracle. If someone could track down this ad, it'd be a helluva find.
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Post by Plengel on May 16, 2022 14:49:50 GMT
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Post by pg on May 16, 2022 15:32:50 GMT
The front cover is irrelevant. You just need the first half of 1989, and lots of patience.
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Post by Cj on May 18, 2022 19:34:31 GMT
I just got a Copyright takedown of a I Guess We're Falling Out upload on my yt channel, has this happened before? could this be related to The Miracle Box Set somehow?
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Post by Golden Salmon on May 18, 2022 19:48:48 GMT
I just got a Copyright takedown of a I Guess We're Falling Out upload on my yt channel, has this happened before? could this be related to The Miracle Box Set somehow? Any chance that the beginning is recognized automatically as Breakthru, maybe?
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Post by Cj on May 18, 2022 19:58:24 GMT
No, it was never recognized automatically as any song when i uploaded it, the RIAA deleted the video and i got a strike for it.
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Post by Lord Fickle on May 18, 2022 20:42:34 GMT
I just got a Copyright takedown of a I Guess We're Falling Out upload on my yt channel, has this happened before? could this be related to The Miracle Box Set somehow? I've just had a look at your YouTube channel, and it does seem strange that they've picked on that, over all the other stuff you have on there.
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Post by Golden Salmon on May 18, 2022 21:05:41 GMT
No, it was never recognized automatically as any song when i uploaded it, the RIAA deleted the video and i got a strike for it. Whooops! I got "I Guess We're Falling Out" (starts like "My Baby Does Me") mixed with "A New Life Is Born" (starts like "Breakthru"), but my point still stands. Not that I want to encourage anything, but it would be interesting to keep uploading Miracle-era demos and see what happens...
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Post by Chinwonder2 on May 18, 2022 21:09:45 GMT
I've noticed there are little to no uploads of "I Guess We're Falling Out". Hmm
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Post by Arnaldo Ogre- on May 18, 2022 21:37:15 GMT
I just got a Copyright takedown of a I Guess We're Falling Out upload on my yt channel, has this happened before? could this be related to The Miracle Box Set somehow? Sorry to hear that, pal. Hang on in there! Cheers, Ogre-
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Post by velizar on May 18, 2022 21:38:47 GMT
My uploads of I Guess We're Falling Down are taken down and I've received a copyright strike too. Afterwards I deleted all Miracle-related videos from my channel to prevent getting more strikes.
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Post by velizar on May 19, 2022 11:25:24 GMT
That's quite an interesting upload, I'll keep an eye on it in case it gets blocked too
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