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Post by Emmanuel on May 15, 2024 15:24:55 GMT
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Post by Dudemang on May 15, 2024 17:29:47 GMT
I was quite upset that Montreal was getting ANOTHER rerelease, and frankly would still rather get something else.
But man, this does look really good. The colors are excellent
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Post by thesirhc on May 17, 2024 1:36:24 GMT
I watched a bit of it on Disney+. They have both the "Imax Enhanced" version and the full widescreen version, which is nice. The only thing notable to me was that the sound was very quiet and maybe a little narrow. I had to crank the volume and it still wasn't very loud.
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Post by boffy on May 17, 2024 4:59:00 GMT
I watched a bit of it on Disney+. They have both the "Imax Enhanced" version and the full widescreen version How did you get the 16:9 version to play on D+? Whether I hit Play on the main page, or go into Versions and choose the IMAX or original, I'm always only seeing the 4:3 one there.
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Post by thesirhc on May 17, 2024 15:40:24 GMT
I watched a bit of it on Disney+. They have both the "Imax Enhanced" version and the full widescreen version How did you get the 16:9 version to play on D+? Whether I hit Play on the main page, or go into Versions and choose the IMAX or original, I'm always only seeing the 4:3 one there. There are the two different versions in the Versions section for me.
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Post by akirafish on May 17, 2024 15:58:56 GMT
Rock Montreal is No. 6 in official chart update. Could anyone please tell me what’s its relation to official chart? I
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Post by onevision2013 on May 17, 2024 17:14:41 GMT
I've watched the first 4 songs on disc 2, HDR with Atmos. Sound is great to me, It gave the concert experience I suppose as best as possible with audience all around. Picture is stunning on 55 inch TV most of the time. Shots of Roger seem less defined. Disc pause for 5 seconds on Let Me Entertain I'll clean the disc and hopefully will be ok next time.
I didn't get the menu to watch the concert until I reset my Sony UHD again. I wonder if the problem is not the disc but non-standard UHD players or disc specification across manufacturers.
Somebody To Love is wonderful on this disc.
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Post by eiricd on May 17, 2024 17:26:34 GMT
I watched a bit of it on Disney+. They have both the "Imax Enhanced" version and the full widescreen version, which is nice. The only thing notable to me was that the sound was very quiet and maybe a little narrow. I had to crank the volume and it still wasn't very loud. don't know what your setup is. Is the audio through tv speakers, soundbar, or reciever? regardless - my experience is that any audio streaming via my apple tv (4k updated version) pales compared to a physical disc. tech savy people can enter here and talk about bitrates etc which should explain why. which is also why I'll prefer physical media if it means better audio (and picture)
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Post by boffy on May 17, 2024 19:26:34 GMT
How did you get the 16:9 version to play on D+? Whether I hit Play on the main page, or go into Versions and choose the IMAX or original, I'm always only seeing the 4:3 one there. There are the two different versions in the Versions section for me. Yeah it shows two versions, but selecting either plays the 4:3 on my TV. Looks like it might be an issue with the D+ Android/Android TV app, based on discussions on other forums. I've tried it on my PC and selecting the version works correctly.
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Post by eiricd on May 17, 2024 19:55:35 GMT
ordered, and still waiting for, the 4K disc.
in the meantime, I've watched about half of it via apple tv. (Full screen version)
have to say, in terms of picture quality, all the shots that were great on the dvd, superb on the blu ray, are now stunning. The source material is what it is, what's dark is dark and thus a bit limited. But the shots that are well lit, especially the close ups of Freddie on the piano? Remarkable.
Dolby atmos is the sole option it seems, and as I mentioned above, agin the stream seems less impressive than the 2007 blu ray. Will wait for the disc to make a comparison.
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Post by Dimitris on May 18, 2024 7:35:37 GMT
UK charts:
Top 100 album #31 Top 100 album physical sales #4 Top 50 vinyl sales #6
Music video chart #15 (754weeks) re-enter
The music video was in charts for almost 2023 and early 2024,during the announcement of IMAX and its time of cinema release.
It seems that the majority of sales are from streaming ,thus no high position in top 100 album sales combined. With the very little promo and effort the results are very well. The cinema run was huge success world wide.
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Post by donovan on May 18, 2024 13:45:54 GMT
Watched on Disney+ and this looks so fantastic (to me). I've yet to see any of the extra fingers that AI was supposed to add.
My only complaint (and maybe this is in previous edits and I just missed it) is the split second cuts to the crowd that have been added in places that weren't in the original VHS release that I have committed to memory. I find it so jarring.
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Post by boffy on May 18, 2024 14:35:11 GMT
My only complaint (and maybe this is in previous edits and I just missed it) is the split second cuts to the crowd that have been added in places that weren't in the original VHS release that I have committed to memory. I find it so jarring. From what brief comparison I’ve made, these seem to have been done in 2007 for the original QRM release. I’m not a fan of those fairly pointless visual changes, especially because these shots replace footage of the band. However, I’m very happy for at least one. QPL used shots from elsewhere in the film to reconstruct the intro to NIH. The beginning of this song was butchered in the older editions on VHS, etc..
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Post by boffy on May 18, 2024 15:15:58 GMT
There is a very minor difference between the 4:3 version on UHD Blu-ray and the one on Disney Plus. On disc, the credits are larger and usually centred. On D+, they're smaller and placed lower down. UHD BD on the left, Disney on the right. I presume the standard BD would be the same as the UHD one? I think it's mostly just a curiosity that they didn't use exactly the same master file, though I suppose it could be useful for filling in certain parts if someone wanted to create a clean, textless version of the intro/outro for some reason. I haven't been able to spot any differences in the widescreen version between disc and streaming.
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Post by thesirhc on May 18, 2024 20:15:35 GMT
I watched a bit of it on Disney+. They have both the "Imax Enhanced" version and the full widescreen version, which is nice. The only thing notable to me was that the sound was very quiet and maybe a little narrow. I had to crank the volume and it still wasn't very loud. don't know what your setup is. Is the audio through tv speakers, soundbar, or reciever? regardless - my experience is that any audio streaming via my apple tv (4k updated version) pales compared to a physical disc. tech savy people can enter here and talk about bitrates etc which should explain why. which is also why I'll prefer physical media if it means better audio (and picture) I listen through a receiver and I have the 4k Apple TV too. I'm used to the volume differences between streamers, like tv channels in days of yore, but this stood out as a little extreme. I guess it could be because I want this to be extra loud!
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Post by thesirhc on May 18, 2024 20:17:45 GMT
There are the two different versions in the Versions section for me. Yeah it shows two versions, but selecting either plays the 4:3 on my TV. Looks like it might be an issue with the D+ Android/Android TV app, based on discussions on other forums. I've tried it on my PC and selecting the version works correctly. I guess I could have been a little more helpful and say that I was watching on a 4k Apple TV. I do like the fact that the two versions on Disney+ stay in sync so it's easy to switch back and forth to obsessively check for differences.
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Post by blackqueen on May 20, 2024 16:15:08 GMT
Hi,
Did anyone outside the UK receive the blue vinyl from Queen Online ? My was shipped on May 8th but "Processed at Deutsche Post Mailterminal" since May 10th...
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Post by fcb101 on May 20, 2024 19:27:36 GMT
Hi, Did anyone outside the UK receive the blue vinyl from Queen Online ? My was shipped on May 8th but "Processed at Deutsche Post Mailterminal" since May 10th... I received mine last friday (Belgium). Sounds great!
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Post by The Real Wizard on May 21, 2024 6:24:48 GMT
I hate to be the grinch, but I'm not too impressed or convinced this is an upgrade. Maybe it's the fact that it's YouTube compression somehow affecting this, but I still ultimately prefer Chief Mouse's clean-up of the previous version. The 16:9 cropping is an obvious issue, but the film grain is still there - it looks like a beautiful film from 1981. The new version is just too clean (if such a thing can be said) and loses that analog feel, similar to what was done for the Get Back documentary. And it's darker, and there's less definition overall. To my eyes, the only thing that's an improvement in these two screenshots is Freddie's wristband being redder. Chief Mouse: 2024 version:
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Post by blackqueen on May 21, 2024 9:26:56 GMT
Hi, Did anyone outside the UK receive the blue vinyl from Queen Online ? My was shipped on May 8th but "Processed at Deutsche Post Mailterminal" since May 10th... I received mine last friday (Belgium). Sounds great! Thanks. I just received mine
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Post by Dimitris on May 21, 2024 14:47:00 GMT
The total sales for cd, vinyl, download and streaming for Queen - Rock Montreal (3,422)
I wonder how something is collectable, when the sales these days are poor.Not only in Queen , of course there are artist who still have good numbers.
In the old good days of big sales, a limited edition of 500-1000-2000 copies were true collectable items, since the demand was huge and the offer or availability was small.
Now the marketing is like a lie. Out of 5000 or 10000 pressing copies the 500-2000 are limited. I think is a ridiculous cheat on collectors. Not to mention the high prices.
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Post by boffy on May 21, 2024 15:18:40 GMT
The total sales for cd, vinyl, download and streaming for Queen - Rock Montreal (3,422) That's very interesting, where does that figure come from? Do you know if it also includes the Blu/UHD sales and/or D+ streams, or if those figures are available too?
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Post by Dimitris on May 21, 2024 15:50:43 GMT
The total sales for cd, vinyl, download and streaming for Queen - Rock Montreal (3,422) That's very interesting, where does that figure come from? Do you know if it also includes the Blu/UHD sales and/or D+ streams, or if those figures are available too? From music week, also I have a friend who work in music industry once in a while I asked him. I dont have any picture of Blue ray or D+ streams numbers.
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Post by pg on May 21, 2024 17:31:50 GMT
I'm trying to decide whether I prefer 4:3 or wide-screen.
4:3 is the most "content", but cropping brings one nearer to the action (marginally - the TV is 4 metres away anyway!), but at the theoretical cost of fidelity (not that my aging eyes can tell)
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Post by Emmanuel on May 21, 2024 20:41:04 GMT
I hate to be the grinch, but I'm not too impressed or convinced this is an upgrade. Maybe it's the fact that it's YouTube compression somehow affecting Indeed is the compression, the noise is there on lossless copies. Also the "4:3" version is cropped at the sides like this two images with are full resolution screenshots from the UHD Blu-Ray. (4:3 Copy UHD) (16:9 Copy UHD)
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Post by boffy on May 21, 2024 20:50:30 GMT
It’s weirdly counterintuitive that the 4:3 of that shot has a hair more of the image on the right, while the widescreen has a wee bit more on top.
I’m sure there’s a good reason, like creating a balanced composition for each shot, but it still confuses me.
I wish there was some kind of featurette about the new restoration which might cover this sort of thing.
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Post by The Real Wizard on May 21, 2024 23:07:57 GMT
I hate to be the grinch, but I'm not too impressed or convinced this is an upgrade. Maybe it's the fact that it's YouTube compression somehow affecting Indeed is the compression, the noise is there on lossless copies. Also the "4:3" version is cropped at the sides like this two images with are full resolution screenshots from the UHD Blu-Ray. (4:3 Copy UHD) (16:9 Copy UHD)Excellent - then I stand corrected. And I second boffy's point about the 4:3 edition still being cropped. Bizarre.
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Post by cmi on May 22, 2024 6:27:22 GMT
Why there was a need to crop Full Frame to non-Full Frame and present it that way...
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Post by disco_mart on May 22, 2024 9:11:03 GMT
I hate to be the grinch, but I'm not too impressed or convinced this is an upgrade. Maybe it's the fact that it's YouTube compression somehow affecting this, but I still ultimately prefer Chief Mouse's clean-up of the previous version. The 16:9 cropping is an obvious issue, but the film grain is still there - it looks like a beautiful film from 1981. The new version is just too clean (if such a thing can be said) and loses that analog feel, similar to what was done for the Get Back documentary. And it's darker, and there's less definition overall. To my eyes, the only thing that's an improvement in these two screenshots is Freddie's wristband being redder. Chief Mouse: 2024 version: I've no intention of buying anything related to this release as I have the original WWRY DVD from the early 00s and the '07 release on Blu-Ray and CD (i've not watched either in years, so no need for more dust magnets). But, I easily prefer the lower shot as you can actually see the colours present in the lighting rig used that night (the green and red hues). Its all washed out in the upper grab.
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Post by The Real Wizard on May 23, 2024 2:59:47 GMT
I've no intention of buying anything related to this release as I have the original WWRY DVD from the early 00s and the '07 release on Blu-Ray and CD (i've not watched either in years, so no need for more dust magnets). But, I easily prefer the lower shot as you can actually see the colours present in the lighting rig used that night (the green and red hues). Its all washed out in the upper grab. Yeah, definitely true. I guess we're grasping straws. It's a beautifully filmed show no matter how we dissect the finer details of each version that's 1% different from the other.
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