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Post by creepy on Oct 15, 2024 14:48:54 GMT
I agree that Queen II and Jazz need a remix, but, except for those two albums, I wouldn't remix any other albums either. Without going any further, the sound of Sheer Heart Attack seems great to me.
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Post by Maxi Dries on Oct 15, 2024 15:04:55 GMT
Why most people want to remix Queen II?
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Post by airpodsmax on Oct 15, 2024 15:09:09 GMT
Why most people want to remix Queen II? Maybe because it will allow to get bonus content |
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Post by Dimitris on Oct 15, 2024 15:32:52 GMT
the next boxset, for me and just me, should be or could be “the game” for the 45 years or, I hope, “innuendo” for the 35 years. these two, Ithink, are the only with a surplus of unrealased tracks. 🤞 Innuendo song session alone is a worth to be released. Those who attended the townhouse studio in 2017 were very impressed. Despite I don't like the album Hot Space, according to the press release of Forever (TMBMTLTT 1981) and the Brian's 1982 interview shared in this discussion forum. Hot Space must have the most interesting material very different from what Queen released in 1982 and also lot of unreleased stuff, including jamming with David Bowie. But first Queen II remix with bonus unreleased stuff. |
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Post by Maxi Dries on Oct 15, 2024 15:43:37 GMT
Why most people want to remix Queen II? Maybe because it will allow to get bonus content That's is not an answer. NOTW wasn't remixed and the box set did include great material.
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Post by leighburne on Oct 15, 2024 16:23:34 GMT
I’d assume the actual answer is because they might give it a surround mix.
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Post by airpodsmax on Oct 15, 2024 16:38:24 GMT
I’d assume the actual answer is because they might give it a surround mix. Wait and see! Leaving in the lap of the Sony |
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Post by gooddrills on Oct 15, 2024 20:38:50 GMT
I would actually like to see the boys do a reimagined version of Hot Space. Drop the drum machines or update them. Some 80’s music dates really well with synths and drum machines, Hot Space sadly doesn’t. It feels really dated and it wasn’t even well received at the time. They really just missed the mark, and I do like the album. When I first got into Queen 30+ years ago I played Hot Space to death. I think there are good songs on there that are poorly executed/produced. Freddie’s vocals are great on that album. I would like to hear how Brian and Roger would have preferred it to sound. Maybe there are some decent raw takes that feature real drums, piano, base and guitar? I loved hearing Football Fight and The Kiss in their raw early states.
Another cool idea I’ve thought about over the years is to let some other artists interpret the album. There’s an awesome live version of Staying Power by Extreme on YouTube as an example.
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Post by Jake12 on Oct 15, 2024 21:26:05 GMT
What is Greg going on about now??   |
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Post by saintjiub on Oct 15, 2024 22:28:12 GMT
What is Greg going on about now?? Taking photos and videos at a Queen convention? Oh my God!!! How shocking!! |
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Post by manymilesaway on Oct 16, 2024 5:16:00 GMT
Why most people want to remix Queen II? Because the mix doesn't hold up well. C_Matt did an EXCELLENT job with Queen II years ago without even having the multitracks, so a remix with the resources of the true multitrack would be amazing. |
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Post by kosimodo on Oct 16, 2024 8:42:37 GMT
What is Greg going on about now?? Taking photos and videos at a Queen convention? Oh my God!!! How shocking!! Remember those days u werent allowed to record, take pics and film? |
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Post by mikusguitarius on Oct 16, 2024 12:57:09 GMT
One big thing of Queen II is the drums (mainly toms) distort badly as they were bounced down like that (unintentionally). If QPL have the early multitracks before bouncing (like The Beatles have) then the mix will really clean up. There'll be other benefits too... including a Dolby Atmos mix if the multitracks are available. I'm 100% behind having Queen II remixed.
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Post by Maxi Dries on Oct 16, 2024 14:05:35 GMT
Why most people want to remix Queen II? Because the mix doesn't hold up well. C_Matt did an EXCELLENT job with Queen II years ago without even having the multitracks, so a remix with the resources of the true multitrack would be amazing. Yes. I heard it back on the day and love it. Even more, I personally told him that when we met a few years ago. |
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Post by Queen II 74 on Oct 18, 2024 4:42:19 GMT
Queen II box set, or a ANATO box set will be welcomed to me.
Queen II sounds much better with C Matt's Revision, and with for me they will do the same thing that they did in Queen I album... so for this i wanted the bonus CDs, the takes, rough tracks, demos, takes from BBC, maybe a version of Brighton Rock, i readed in some place that this song maybe was concepted for this album but they not finished. The live material will be curious, or not, of course a lot of things os Rainbow but we can take some hope felling with something from a concert never heard before.
For ANATO, i think they will do the same, but with some surprise equals "You Know You Belong to Me" & "Water" in The Miracle Box... maybe they have a lote of demo tapes like first version of I'm in Love with my car, or the guitar process of Good Company, or the takes from Psycho Legs, some curious things i think.
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Post by Dimitris on Oct 18, 2024 5:56:35 GMT
In 2024 they reissue Rock Montreal and Queen boxset is about to come.
I am hoping for Queen II and ANATO in 2025 not holding my breath.
C-mat Queen II revision was an improvement,specialy in bass and drums sound, considering he hasn't access to multitracks, he did great job. One thing I don't like is the way of backing vocals in his mix, they lost their dynamic and their place.
I am thinking that, Sony records might not want boxsets like ANATO to be released under EMI-Universal. They are waiting for Queen's contract to expire, in order to have full product under their company.
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Post by The great pretender on Oct 22, 2024 17:40:06 GMT
Taking photos and videos at a Queen convention? Oh my God!!! How shocking!! Remember those days u werent allowed to record, take pics and film? Who’s basje? |
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Post by eiricd on Oct 22, 2024 18:54:43 GMT
In termns of mixing; Queen II is miles better than Queen. Also, the 2011 remaster was probably the best improvement of all the albums.
What Queen II needs is a surround mix, which would open up the amount of tracks filled with all kinds of brilliant details. Sadly, they don't seem to bother.
(I just remembered that Queen I will have a digital only atmos mix? Curious to see a review there...)
What I find strange is that if the drum sound was the number 1 reason to remix the debut album - they should have done the same thing on The Miracle, and at a future point; on Innuendo.
Fake (and bad!) drum tracks are too heavily featured on both albums..
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Post by ThomasQuinn on Oct 23, 2024 6:29:54 GMT
Why most people want to remix Queen II? Because there's quite a lot wrong with the mix we have - hard clipping on some guitars and vocals, bad balance between instruments, separation issues, noise in places, etc. |
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Post by Maxi Dries on Oct 23, 2024 13:55:46 GMT
Why most people want to remix Queen II? Because there's quite a lot wrong with the mix we have - hard clipping on some guitars and vocals, bad balance between instruments, separation issues, noise in places, etc. Yes. I agree with that. BUT...it's the record we have since forever, and the creators were OK with that. How long this 'prefectionist - revisionism thing' would take? Every album has is flaws, for sure. But just imagine they redo all albums, and YET the quality, the audio, the plugins, the clipping, is not the greatest...would we call for another mixing? I think we should move on and let those imperfections alone. It's part of the magic, the technical limitations, the arguments, the direction taken on the mixing desk.... |
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Post by mercurialfreddie on Oct 23, 2024 14:52:56 GMT
Because there's quite a lot wrong with the mix we have - hard clipping on some guitars and vocals, bad balance between instruments, separation issues, noise in places, etc. Yes. I agree with that. BUT...it's the record we have since forever, and the creators were OK with that. How long this 'prefectionist - revisionism thing' would take? Every album has is flaws, for sure. But just imagine they redo all albums, and YET the quality, the audio, the plugins, the clipping, is not the greatest...would we call for another mixing? I think we should move on and let those imperfections alone. It's part of the magic, the technical limitations, the arguments, the direction taken on the mixing desk.... In the recent Mojo review Brian has said that "we'll stop there" so Queen II should be the last album to get that kind of treatment as Queen I had gotten. |
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Post by Lord Fickle on Oct 23, 2024 14:58:08 GMT
Yes. I agree with that. BUT...it's the record we have since forever, and the creators were OK with that. How long this 'prefectionist - revisionism thing' would take? Every album has is flaws, for sure. But just imagine they redo all albums, and YET the quality, the audio, the plugins, the clipping, is not the greatest...would we call for another mixing? I think we should move on and let those imperfections alone. It's part of the magic, the technical limitations, the arguments, the direction taken on the mixing desk.... In the recent Mojo review Brian has said that "we'll stop there" so Queen II should be the last album to get that kind of treatment as Queen I had gotten. Which, if true, is a little disappointing, as both Jazz and Innuendo could do with a remix. |
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Post by alepisa on Oct 23, 2024 21:54:32 GMT
Next realease 50th anniversary of bo rhap/anato. Box set included:
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ANATO full album remastered
ANATO backing track
ANATO Demo session
DVD/BLU RAY
Hammy 1975
ANATO Documentary revisited with new material
Bo Rhap Story
7" Replica of the royal blue
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Post by creepy on Oct 23, 2024 22:32:48 GMT
Next realease 50th anniversary of bo rhap/anato. Box set included: CD: ANATO full album remastered ANATO backing track ANATO Demo session DVD/BLU RAY Hammy 1975 ANATO Documentary revisited with new material Bo Rhap Story 7" Replica of the royal blue At the Hammersmith Odeon concert in 1975 they only played one song from A Night at the Opera. It is not representative of that album. I have serious doubts that they include that show. I think that they include an audio concert (or part) of the ANATO tour that has never been released before (like San Diego or another one). I also think it will include a DVD that may include a documentary, the video clips and some live performances of certain songs from the album (Hyde Park or some other concert that was recorded on video, if it exists). |
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Post by manymilesaway on Oct 23, 2024 22:54:30 GMT
Next realease 50th anniversary of bo rhap/anato. Box set included: CD: ANATO full album remastered ANATO backing track ANATO Demo session DVD/BLU RAY Hammy 1975 ANATO Documentary revisited with new material Bo Rhap Story 7" Replica of the royal blue Hammersmith 75 would SUUUUUUUUUCK as a release with A Night At The Opera. The only song from ANATO on that setlist is Bohemian Rhapsody, and it doesn't even have the opera or rock parts like the rest of the tour does. Hyde Park on the other hand has all parts of Bohemian Rhapsody, the earliest pro-shot of You're My Best Friend, the only pro-shot Sweet Lady, the earliest pro-shot of '39, and the only pro-shot version of The Prophet's Song in full. For a live ANATO video blu-ray, I'd do this Queen - Hyde Park (1976-09-18) full show, with that you get these songs from A Night At The Opera: - Bohemian Rhapsody
- Sweet Lady
- You're My Best Friend
- '39
- The Prophet's Song
Bonus Disc: Queen - Earls Court (1977-06-06 or 1977-06-07) (One of only two filmed version of the full song) Queen - Santa Monica (1976-03-09), or any other version in QPL's vaults that is better. - Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon
(Sadly, this will be the only song in the collection with no footage) Queen - Paris (1979-02-27) (At last, footage of the famous speech before Live Killers' rendition) Here's where it'll get a bit unorthodox: The Cross + John Deacon + Brian May - Le Palais (1988-04-12) (Closest thing to a Queen show after Knebworth and before Freddie's death + it's got an amateur video) Brian May + Roger Taylor - Buckingham Palace (2002-02-06) (Only true live version + it's professionally filmed) Brian May - High Wycombe (2012/11/19) (Best live version + it's got an amateur video) This would give live representation to EVERY single song on A Night At The Opera besides Seaside Rendezvous, which hasn't been done by any member of Queen. As a bonus, since the song was chopped up at Hyde Park, Queen - Hammersmith (1979-12-26) (This version is one of the best of all time, and THE best filmed version, yet it hasn't leaked.)
This is the BEST CASE SCENARIO, I'd say. But it's not going to happen, of course. |
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Post by ted on Oct 23, 2024 23:23:11 GMT
This is what I'd like to have in a ANATO Anniversary Edition release from alepisa's posted list further above:
CD:
ANATO Demo session
DVD/BLU RAY:
ANATO Documentary revisited with new material
Bo Rhap Story (if not previously released)
7" Replica of the royal blue
Ted
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Post by The Real Wizard on Oct 24, 2024 0:05:45 GMT
Because there's quite a lot wrong with the mix we have - hard clipping on some guitars and vocals, bad balance between instruments, separation issues, noise in places, etc. Yes. I agree with that. BUT...it's the record we have since forever, and the creators were OK with that. Not necessarily true. It was recorded on 16-track tape, when many studios were already starting to upgrade to 24. No doubt plenty of compromises were made with the mix, as layers of vocals and guitars had to be bounced to single tracks. They may have loved the music on that album, but that doesn't mean they were happy with the mix. |
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Post by manymilesaway on Oct 24, 2024 0:46:55 GMT
Yes. I agree with that. BUT...it's the record we have since forever, and the creators were OK with that. They may have loved the music on that album, but that doesn't mean they were happy with the mix. The fact Brian specifically said he thinks Queen II could do with a remix is the most proof that you could get of that. |
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Post by creepy on Oct 24, 2024 11:08:37 GMT
The A Night at the Opera tour ran between November 1975 and April 1976. Does anyone have any information regarding the existence of video footage of this stage? (excluding, obviously, the concert on 12/24/1975).
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Post by fcb101 on Oct 24, 2024 13:23:27 GMT
Next realease 50th anniversary of bo rhap/anato. Box set included: CD: ANATO full album remastered ANATO backing track ANATO Demo session DVD/BLU RAY Hammy 1975 ANATO Documentary revisited with new material Bo Rhap Story 7" Replica of the royal blue Hammersmith 75 would SUUUUUUUUUCK as a release with A Night At The Opera. The only song from ANATO on that setlist is Bohemian Rhapsody, and it doesn't even have the opera or rock parts like the rest of the tour does. Hyde Park on the other hand has all parts of Bohemian Rhapsody, the earliest pro-shot of You're My Best Friend, the only pro-shot Sweet Lady, the earliest pro-shot of '39, and the only pro-shot version of The Prophet's Song in full. For a live ANATO video blu-ray, I'd do this Queen - Hyde Park (1976-09-18) full show, with that you get these songs from A Night At The Opera: - Bohemian Rhapsody
- Sweet Lady
- You're My Best Friend
- '39
- The Prophet's Song
Bonus Disc: Queen - Earls Court (1977-06-06 or 1977-06-07) (One of only two filmed version of the full song) Queen - Santa Monica (1976-03-09), or any other version in QPL's vaults that is better. - Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon
(Sadly, this will be the only song in the collection with no footage) Queen - Paris (1979-02-27) (At last, footage of the famous speech before Live Killers' rendition) Here's where it'll get a bit unorthodox: The Cross + John Deacon + Brian May - Le Palais (1988-04-12) (Closest thing to a Queen show after Knebworth and before Freddie's death + it's got an amateur video) Brian May + Roger Taylor - Buckingham Palace (2002-02-06) (Only true live version + it's professionally filmed) Brian May - High Wycombe (2012/11/19) (Best live version + it's got an amateur video) This would give live representation to EVERY single song on A Night At The Opera besides Seaside Rendezvous, which hasn't been done by any member of Queen. As a bonus, since the song was chopped up at Hyde Park, Queen - Hammersmith (1979-12-26) (This version is one of the best of all time, and THE best filmed version, yet it hasn't leaked.)
This is the BEST CASE SCENARIO, I'd say. But it's not going to happen, of course. I like your idea of including Hyde Park even though I would prefer complete audio from San Diego 76 since we haven't got that one yet (soon 2 songs 😍). I don't like the idea of including all the post Queen renditions. They always stick to just the Queen era (Brian - Freddie - Roger - John) and I prefer that. |
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