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Post by littlequeenie97 on Apr 7, 2021 7:10:35 GMT
You might wanna update it now that we know what Freddie actually wore in Inglewood 77 according to Queenlive.ca  |
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Post by Ryan Newton on Apr 7, 2021 7:18:46 GMT
You might wanna update it now that we know what Freddie actually wore in Inglewood 77 according to Queenlive.ca I was planning on it but I can't edit the original thread! |
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Post by martinpacker on Apr 7, 2021 8:55:32 GMT
As for the "only wore for the WATC shoot" black-and-white leotard, I vaguelly recall a version of the video where he is using the design to half appear. Spotlit from one side or something?
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Post by Chopin1995 on Apr 7, 2021 12:15:17 GMT
I wonder what's the story behind these new photos from Inglewood, and futhermore, when and where those old photos (attributed to 22nd December date before) were taken? The Real Wizard ? |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Apr 7, 2021 14:42:15 GMT
I wonder what's the story behind these new photos from Inglewood, and futhermore, when and where those old photos (attributed to 22nd December date before) were taken? The Real Wizard ? Ryan Newton actually figured it out, so I'll let him have the honours.
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Post by Ryan Newton on Apr 7, 2021 22:37:59 GMT
I wonder what's the story behind these new photos from Inglewood, and futhermore, when and where those old photos (attributed to 22nd December date before) were taken? The Real Wizard ? Alright, so I can't take full credit, as Darren1379 was the one who initially pointed it out, but in short, in some of the encore shots of 12/22, you can see one of the tour cases on John's side of the stage with a "BASS" label on the back flipped upside down. Neil Zlozower, who was a west coast photographer, took many shots from this tour, many of which have Fred in the striped outfit, but in some shots the box is flipped and in some its right side up, so we concluded that at least two of the California shows had Fred in the stripes. Furthermore, it couldn't be Long Beach, as the box on Neil Zlozower's Long Beach shots is up right. |
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Post by Chopin1995 on Apr 8, 2021 13:28:30 GMT
I wonder what's the story behind these new photos from Inglewood, and futhermore, when and where those old photos (attributed to 22nd December date before) were taken? The Real Wizard ? Alright, so I can't take full credit, as Darren1379 was the one who initially pointed it out, but in short, in some of the encore shots of 12/22, you can see one of the tour cases on John's side of the stage with a "BASS" label on the back flipped upside down. Neil Zlozower, who was a west coast photographer, took many shots from this tour, many of which have Fred in the striped outfit, but in some shots the box is flipped and in some its right side up, so we concluded that at least two of the California shows had Fred in the stripes. Furthermore, it couldn't be Long Beach, as the box on Neil Zlozower's Long Beach shots is up right. This is brilliant! Thanks to both of you. |
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Post by littlequeenie97 on Apr 8, 2021 17:50:51 GMT
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Post by The Real Wizard on Apr 8, 2021 17:56:44 GMT
Alright, so I can't take full credit, as Darren1379 was the one who initially pointed it out, but in short, in some of the encore shots of 12/22, you can see one of the tour cases on John's side of the stage with a "BASS" label on the back flipped upside down. Neil Zlozower, who was a west coast photographer, took many shots from this tour, many of which have Fred in the striped outfit, but in some shots the box is flipped and in some its right side up, so we concluded that at least two of the California shows had Fred in the stripes. Furthermore, it couldn't be Long Beach, as the box on Neil Zlozower's Long Beach shots is up right. This is brilliant! Thanks to both of you. Furthermore - to distinguish between the Oakland and LA photos, Mercury's belt buckle seems to be more centred in Oakland and off to his right in LA (at least for some of the show - of course it's possible he could have adjusted it at any point).
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Post by Ryan Newton on Apr 8, 2021 22:38:38 GMT
Nope. He travelled to the UK in 1978 to take shots of them at Wembley. |
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Post by Chopin1995 on Apr 8, 2021 23:14:27 GMT
This is brilliant! Thanks to both of you. Furthermore - to distinguish between the Oakland and LA photos, Mercury's belt buckle seems to be more centred in Oakland and off to his right in LA (at least for some of the show - of course it's possible he could have adjusted it at any point).
That is right! Although it's easier to adjust a belt than to put the tour case upside down  Or should I say "upside up" in this case. |
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Post by Dimitris on Apr 10, 2021 11:30:43 GMT
Great photos and hard task to find which concert come from. Thanks for the info!
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Post by bobbythecat on Apr 10, 2021 12:17:33 GMT
I have noticed that there are three different black outfits; one with the diamantes going left to right, one right to left and one only in the middle. here are some examples Columbus 15-01-1977  Inglewood 03-03-1977  Liverpool 03-06-1977  But as the News of the World tour is concerned, I can only find this version (albeit, slightly altered to the earlier model)  |
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Post by sciadi on Apr 14, 2021 23:04:58 GMT
Hi everyone, sorry for bothering you all.
I tried asking a woman who attended the Inglewood show under Queen’s new post on Instagram whether Freddie wore the checkered or the striped jampsuit, and she told me he wore the checkered one.
Should we take the information with a grain of salt? I can try to ask her if she actually saw the boys in Long Beach.
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Post by Ryan Newton on Apr 14, 2021 23:08:47 GMT
Hi everyone, sorry for bothering you all. I tried asking a woman who attended the Inglewood show under Queen’s new post on Instagram whether Freddie wore the checkered or the striped jampsuit, and she told me he wore the checkered one. Should we take the information with a grain of salt? I can try to ask her if she actually saw the boys in Long Beach. I'd rather go with the photographic evidence than someone's memory. There is still a bit of mystery regarding what Fred wore at this show but right now the evidence swings in favour of the stripes. (Even more so because there now exists amateur shots of Fred in the stripes which also claim to be LA). |
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Post by littlequeenie97 on Apr 14, 2021 23:24:23 GMT
Hi everyone, sorry for bothering you all. I tried asking a woman who attended the Inglewood show under Queen’s new post on Instagram whether Freddie wore the checkered or the striped jampsuit, and she told me he wore the checkered one. Should we take the information with a grain of salt? I can try to ask her if she actually saw the boys in Long Beach. I'd rather go with the photographic evidence than someone's memory. There is still a bit of mystery regarding what Fred wore at this show but right now the evidence swings in favour of the stripes. (Even more so because there now exists amateur shots of Fred in the stripes which also claim to be LA). In the queen touring america book there is a set of pictures from inglewood where Freddie appears in the first one with the striped outfit and in the same set there is a photo of the crazy encore. |
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Post by sciadi on Apr 14, 2021 23:40:57 GMT
I'd rather go with the photographic evidence than someone's memory. There is still a bit of mystery regarding what Fred wore at this show but right now the evidence swings in favour of the stripes. (Even more so because there now exists amateur shots of Fred in the stripes which also claim to be LA). In the queen touring america book there is a set of pictures from inglewood where Freddie appears in the first one with the striped outfit and in the same set there is a photo of the crazy encore. Those pictures are unmistakably from LA, even the cables on Roger’s drumkit microphones perfectly match the encore shots. I was wondering if Freddie didn’t actually wear both outfits (starting with the striped jumpsuit and switching to the other one somewhere in the middle of the show), since it was the final night, but I find this unlikely. |
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Post by Ryan Newton on Apr 14, 2021 23:51:31 GMT
I'd rather go with the photographic evidence than someone's memory. There is still a bit of mystery regarding what Fred wore at this show but right now the evidence swings in favour of the stripes. (Even more so because there now exists amateur shots of Fred in the stripes which also claim to be LA). In the queen touring america book there is a set of pictures from inglewood where Freddie appears in the first one with the striped outfit and in the same set there is a photo of the crazy encore. Good eye. So that makes at least three sets of photos from the show with Fred in the stripes. |
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Post by Darren1379 on Apr 15, 2021 6:11:28 GMT
Here are a few contributions to this thread 1. Silver lurex at Boston 11/12/77. Photographed by Waring Abbott who took some of the well-known shots from this gig although was labeled as MSG (which shouldn't be the case).  2. Red lurex at Stafford 5/7/78. Photographed by Kevin Cummins where his other shots have been attributed to this date.  3. Silver lurex alongside the red one at 5/12/78. Taken by Robert Ellis.  |
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Post by Ryan Newton on Apr 15, 2021 10:30:31 GMT
3. Silver lurex alongside the red one at 5/12/78. Taken by Robert Ellis. Thanks, although this one is curious, as this shot below is also usually attributed to 5/12/78. Surely he wouldn't have worn both.  |
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Post by Darren1379 on Apr 15, 2021 16:52:50 GMT
3. Silver lurex alongside the red one at 5/12/78. Taken by Robert Ellis. Thanks, although this one is curious, as this shot below is also usually attributed to 5/12/78. Surely he wouldn't have worn both. I believe Robert Ellis only photographed at 5/12 so I would assume they're from the same show. He has other shots of the star vest and encore shots with the red lurex. He also doesn't have any shots with the red straps or the wristband. |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Apr 15, 2021 17:32:17 GMT
3. Silver lurex alongside the red one at 5/12/78. Taken by Robert Ellis. Thanks, although this one is curious, as this shot below is also usually attributed to 5/12/78. Surely he wouldn't have worn both. Long explanation here, so buckle up !
The Robert Ellis shots are labelled as 5/12, but these ones are in the set too:
And the Pete Still shots are from 5/12 as well:
In this shot from 5/13 (taken by our good pal master marathon runner) there is dry ice and Mercury is singing Champions:
If it's like all the previous shows and Freddie switched to the lurex suit for only the second encore (they swapped the encores for the final night, and it was SHA/Jailhouse followed by WWRY/WATC) then the Robert Ellis shot with him in silver should be from 5/11, as Brian is playing a lead in Jailhouse Rock and Deacon is higher up on the fretboard (i.e. not playing WWRY or Champions).
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Post by Darren1379 on Apr 15, 2021 18:47:52 GMT
Yep, my earlier assumption of Robert Ellis only photographing at only 1 show was probably wrong. I put together a list of outfit combinations at 5/12 based on labeled shots by Robert Ellis and Alan Perry and it seems to me that there are too many combinations for just 1 show. Freddie: Jacket Brian: White Jacket Freddie: Straps Brian: White Jacket Freddie: Star Vest (Includes piano shot and standing shot) Brian: White Jacket Freddie: Jacket (2nd time) Brian: Drapes Freddie: Straps (Includes Freddie coming out of trapdoor) Brian: Drapes Freddie: Straps Brian: Black Vest Freddie: Silver Lurex Brian: Patterned Jacket Freddie: Red Lurex Brian: Black Vest Also, are the Pete Still shots from 5/12 because he labels them as 5/11 on Getty and on the whole set on ebay?  |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Apr 15, 2021 20:44:29 GMT
Yep, my earlier assumption of Robert Ellis only photographing at only 1 show was probably wrong. I put together a list of outfit combinations at 5/12 based on labeled shots by Robert Ellis and Alan Perry and it seems to me that there are too many combinations for just 1 show. Also, are the Pete Still shots from 5/12 because he labels them as 5/11 on Getty and on the whole set on ebay? Yeah, you may well be right.
Alan Perry's shots could be also be from multiple nights, as Roger Taylor is seen in two different outfits:
...the latter of which he's seen in on 5/13 (taken by Philip Day):
But he changed outfits at some point on 5/13. Nailing all this down may be trickier than we'd thought.
As per the original discussion - it's pretty clear that it's red lurex suit for the second encore on 5/11 and 5/12, and silver for 5/13.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Apr 16, 2021 23:48:54 GMT
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Post by Chopin1995 on Apr 19, 2021 15:01:00 GMT
There seems to be evidence of what Freddie wore in Springfield. QueenHouse85 uploaded a video recently entitled "La Exposición Fotográfica de Freddie Mercury (DVD-ROM, 2000)". In that video there are two photos from Springfield. The first one looks like this (already on queenlive.ca under the same date):  But the most important part is now. The very next photo, also captioned with the same venue and photographer looks like this. The angles and the quality of these 2 photos are strikingly similar:  Here's the entire video (both photos at around 4:40): |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Apr 20, 2021 1:46:56 GMT
But the most important part is now. The very next photo, also captioned with the same venue and photographer looks like this. The angles and the quality of these 2 photos are strikingly similar: Interesting - then it looks like he shot them on more than one night on that tour:
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Post by Ryan Newton on Apr 20, 2021 2:08:35 GMT
But the most important part is now. The very next photo, also captioned with the same venue and photographer looks like this. The angles and the quality of these 2 photos are strikingly similar: Interesting - then it looks like he shot them on more than one night on that tour:
And considering his shots aren't known to be properly labelled (note his Races Tour shots which are falsely labelled as MSG), I'd like to think the striped shots may actually be Boston and the checkered shots may be Springfield. Although, he apparently shot bands in Providence as well. Surely his photos are from those three cities but which one it is is unknown. |
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Post by Emmanuel on Apr 20, 2021 5:02:19 GMT
But the most important part is now. The very next photo, also captioned with the same venue and photographer looks like this. The angles and the quality of these 2 photos are strikingly similar:  I have this alt take |
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Post by beyondthemoon on Apr 22, 2021 21:45:08 GMT
As others have pointed out in this thread, Neil Zlozower photographed at least three California News of the World shows. One of them is Inglewood, as evidenced by the upside down bass box. These shots show Freddie in the striped outfit:
He also was shooting at the first night in Long Beach, as evidenced by Freddie wearing the checkered outfit and the unique backdrop behind the stage, especially visible in shots with good lighting (to my knowledge, this backdrop only appears in Long Beach):
He also was shooting at a third date, which in the past has been labeled as Oakland (these can't be from Inglewood, note that the bass box is right side up here)
Another Zlozower 12/20 shot shows the backdrop visible next to the drum kit and to the right of the bass box (seems to be a light(?) there that shows it more clearly):
In some of these striped shots with the bass box right side up, the same backdrop present at 12/20 can be seen with varying degrees of visibility. Here are two of the better examples I've found: In this one with the bass box visible, you can faintly see the backdrop, although like the 12/20 shot above, it is most visible at the bottom:
This shot does not have the bass box, but clearly shows the same backdrop next to the drum kit as it appears the previous night:
Based on these observations, it seems that Zlozower was present at all three LA area shows on this tour leg, that Freddie wore the striped outfit on the 21st (unless he changed outfits on the 20th, which I would doubt), and that the existing shots labeled as the 21st are of the previous night.
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Or should I say "upside up" in this case. 
