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Post by NathanH on Jul 21, 2020 22:25:39 GMT
I've never understood this decision as (especially in the UK) it was one of their biggest and most successful songs back in 1976. I always find the song to be very dramatic live and am surprised to see that it was dropped during the A Night At The Opera Tour. To have no songs represented from Queen II for six or something years a couple of years later, surely it would've been the obvious song to have resurrected especially that it was Brian's favourite Queen album for years. To me it seems like it was a technical reason why it was dropped.
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Post by saintjiub on Jul 22, 2020 1:25:30 GMT
Hammy '75 only had one song from A Night at the Opera song performed, but instead they played Seven Seas of Rhye. Something had to be replaced later in the tour to showcase other songs from their latest album. I am glad that they did not drop White Queen, Ogre Battle or The March of the Black Queen later in the tour.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Jul 22, 2020 2:25:52 GMT
It was hard to play, and their vocal harmonies were getting a bit lazy even in 77. Simple as that. Easier to play Keep Yourself Alive than that one.
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Post by NathanH on Jul 22, 2020 7:22:57 GMT
It was hard to play, and their vocal harmonies were getting a bit lazy even in 77. Simple as that. Easier to play Keep Yourself Alive than that one. I was expecting there to be a response saying it was hard to play. I suppose Liar was easier to play too and that got plays on following tours. Them perhaps rarely playing SSOR in America might've not been because it wasn't a hit there (as majority of the set in 1976 were not hits) but because it was difficult to play hiding but therefore it looks like the former point. I'm glad they played it again live on The Works and Magic Tours despite it being only the first half. Having a fourth person to sing backing vocals (Spike) must've made singing the middle height easier to do. Brian said that he wrote this section and Freddie must've had a point when he said Brian keeps writing things that I can't sing! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 23:46:39 GMT
It was hard to play, and their vocal harmonies were getting a bit lazy even in 77. Simple as that. Easier to play Keep Yourself Alive than that one. I was expecting there to be a response saying it was hard to play. I suppose Liar was easier to play too and that got plays on following tours. Them perhaps rarely playing SSOR in America might've not been because it wasn't a hit there (as majority of the set in 1976 were not hits) but because it was difficult to play hiding but therefore it looks like the former point. I'm glad they played it again live on The Works and Magic Tours despite it being only the first half. Having a fourth person to sing backing vocals (Spike) must've made singing the middle height easier to do. Brian said that he wrote this section and Freddie must've had a point when he said Brian keeps writing things that I can't sing! The only thing about Seven Seas in the 80's is that the Magic Tour versions vocally are so boring. No version on the tour has Freddie going for the A's which is a shame because on his best nights, he could have totally nailed it. |
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Post by Chopin1995 on Jul 23, 2020 18:33:25 GMT
I was expecting there to be a response saying it was hard to play. I suppose Liar was easier to play too and that got plays on following tours. Them perhaps rarely playing SSOR in America might've not been because it wasn't a hit there (as majority of the set in 1976 were not hits) but because it was difficult to play hiding but therefore it looks like the former point. I'm glad they played it again live on The Works and Magic Tours despite it being only the first half. Having a fourth person to sing backing vocals (Spike) must've made singing the middle height easier to do. Brian said that he wrote this section and Freddie must've had a point when he said Brian keeps writing things that I can't sing! The only thing about Seven Seas in the 80's is that the Magic Tour versions vocally are so boring. No version on the tour has Freddie going for the A's which is a shame because on his best nights, he could have totally nailed it. Absolutely. He could have nailed many notes he didn't went for. A perfect example is Frejus show when he out of nowhere goes for Bb4 on Carry On. In my opinion it shows that he wasn't very concerned about reaching high notes throughout his career. It doesn't really matter because rating singers for their vocal range is like rating basketball players for their height. And Freddie's job was much more than just hitting the right notes. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 19:06:36 GMT
The only thing about Seven Seas in the 80's is that the Magic Tour versions vocally are so boring. No version on the tour has Freddie going for the A's which is a shame because on his best nights, he could have totally nailed it. Absolutely. He could have nailed many notes he didn't went for. A perfect example is Frejus show when he out of nowhere goes for Bb4 on Carry On. In my opinion it shows that he wasn't very concerned about reaching high notes throughout his career. It doesn't really matter because rating singers for their vocal range is like rating basketball players for their height. And Freddie's job was much more than just hitting the right notes. Another example is If You Can't Beat Them. In 1979. They're so bland, at least in 78 he was going for stuff. Particularly on the Crazy Tour (albeit we only have 2 recording of it on that tour) he never went for the A's. It's not like it's a hard song to sing either, seen as in Saarbrucken a few months earlier he nailed the song. |
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Post by Chopin1995 on Jul 23, 2020 19:19:03 GMT
Absolutely. He could have nailed many notes he didn't went for. A perfect example is Frejus show when he out of nowhere goes for Bb4 on Carry On. In my opinion it shows that he wasn't very concerned about reaching high notes throughout his career. It doesn't really matter because rating singers for their vocal range is like rating basketball players for their height. And Freddie's job was much more than just hitting the right notes. Another example is If You Can't Beat Them. In 1979. They're so bland, at least in 78 he was going for stuff. Particularly on the Crazy Tour (albeit we only have 2 recording of it on that tour) he never went for the A's. It's not like it's a hard song to sing either, seen as in Saarbrucken a few months earlier he nailed the song. Yeah, another very good example. But when it's happening on stage it doesn't matter to the audience. I was at the concert of another very famous band and it was absolutely incredible show. I couldn't hear any mistakes (I didn't really care, I was looking at legends), I was just following the music, enjoying it and appreciating the fact where I was and what I was doing. After the show the guitarist wrote that he was terrible at the show, so I listened to some songs from the show and I was hearing things I didn't hear while being there and experiencing the moment. So I'd say it's easy to point out some bad notes, chords after the fact when we can hear all those shows numerous of times, but for people who attended all those shows it usually didn't matter. Big difference between attending a concert and listening to it years after. |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Jul 28, 2020 0:58:53 GMT
A perfect example is Frejus show when he out of nowhere goes for Bb4 on Carry On. In my opinion it shows that he wasn't very concerned about reaching high notes throughout his career. It doesn't really matter because rating singers for their vocal range is like rating basketball players for their height. And Freddie's job was much more than just hitting the right notes. Excellent analogy.
Nobody at a Queen gig in 1986 was listening to which notes Mercury was singing. They were focused on his showmanship, and taking in the entire presentation as a whole.
We're only doing that now because we've heard these songs ten thousand times.
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