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Post by kosimodo on Oct 10, 2020 15:02:44 GMT
Been lurking there over 20 years.. not posted much. About ones a week i can see. Basicly this queenchat should merge with queenzone. I guess all here come from qz.. and yes, we could do without the bots and nuts.
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BrƎИsꓘi
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Oct 10, 2020 15:08:27 GMT
Basicly this queenchat should merge with queenzone. I guess all here come from qz.. and yes, we could do without the bots and nuts. i don't follow you. why do we need to merge? this place is doing very well standing on its own two feet. |
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emrabt
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Post by emrabt on Oct 10, 2020 15:31:25 GMT
The amazing migration of posters to this forum in the first month pretty much sealed the deal I think. Something new was needed and everyone felt the same way.
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Frank
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Post by Frank on Oct 10, 2020 15:34:16 GMT
Basicly this queenchat should merge with queenzone. I guess all here come from qz.. and yes, we could do without the bots and nuts. i don't follow you. why do we need to merge? this place is doing very well standing on its own two feet. I think merging the two is a bad idea, no offense. Queenzone had its day and served its purpose well...for a time. Let the past die, as they say. |
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BrƎИsꓘi
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Oct 10, 2020 15:42:32 GMT
i don't follow you. why do we need to merge? this place is doing very well standing on its own two feet. I think merging the two is a bad idea, no offense. Queenzone had its day and served its purpose well...for a time. Let the past die, as they say. ...and merging the two (if it were even possible) would just get QZ out of a hole, while consigning this place (and it's efforts) to the mists of time. |
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Post by Mack Mantilla on Oct 10, 2020 15:51:51 GMT
A lot of memories there on QZ.
But, nowadays here is the best forum to be in.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Oct 10, 2020 15:55:47 GMT
At a time where nothing happened in the world of Queen it was a great place to interract with like minded people. For me this site provided a very good portal of some serious discussion about Queen music and their history. It was the only place were Queen fans analyzed everything with detail. Bang on. Although even in the early days, the discussion was not embraced by all - we still had the "stepford" fans who refused to acknowledge any constructive criticism about the band, especially when such things were being brought to light for the first time.
And there was still all kinds of nonsense in the late '90s too. I remember a thread that said Dragon Attack was about gay sex, and I even fell for it. Such innocence...
But no doubt the positive still outweighed the negative. It served its purpose when it was needed most, but it was on life support long past its expiry date. |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Oct 10, 2020 16:01:45 GMT
It is in a shocking state but I'm concerned there is much valuable research and so on that will become lost. Would be good if it could be archived, but I suppose that would cost, and all the tons of trash would need deleting. So it's probably best to let it go. It'll just take a bunch of copy/pasting - arduous, but not impossible. If people want to preserve anything, then they should go back and revisit some of the good threads, and we can create a section of the forum with the older posts worth hanging onto.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Oct 10, 2020 16:04:18 GMT
georg which troll is here, Georg? Chevyman. Most of his posts here are just quoting existing posts and not saying anything, and on QZ he was a serial spammer of nonsense.
He's history.
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emrabt
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Post by emrabt on Oct 10, 2020 16:08:01 GMT
archive.is/ can archive snapshots of any interesting pages of sites you want kept. unlike The wayback archived the pages are searchable, but it doesn't store the whole site.
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Jake12
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Post by Jake12 on Oct 10, 2020 16:09:05 GMT
georg which troll is here, Georg? Chevyman. Most of his posts here are just quoting existing posts and not saying anything, and on QZ he was a serial spammer of nonsense.
He's history.
I was thinking the same but looking at his post history he may not no how to use Quote unless he’s doing it on purpose |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Oct 10, 2020 16:17:17 GMT
Chevyman. Most of his posts here are just quoting existing posts and not saying anything, and on QZ he was a serial spammer of nonsense.
He's history.
I was thinking the same but looking at his post history he may not no how to use Quote unless he’s doing it on purpose He was nonetheless useless, adding nothing to discussions.
This is not a place to learn how to use basic forum functions - it's kind of a prerequisite to being a member, which everyone else seems to have figured out.
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pg
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Post by pg on Oct 10, 2020 16:19:32 GMT
My recollection of the history
Before / alongside the early QZ, there was the QueenRocker forum. There might have been a Fan Club forum too, alongside the queen-fip one.
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georg
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Post by georg on Oct 10, 2020 16:43:48 GMT
georg which troll is here, Georg? Chevyman. Most of his posts here are just quoting existing posts and not saying anything, and on QZ he was a serial spammer of nonsense.
He's history.
That was the one. |
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Post by emrabt on Oct 10, 2020 18:31:18 GMT
WITHOUT QUEENZONE WE WILL BE HOMELESS  WHERE WILL WE GO? I feel so sorry for the bots at this time. |
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Post by eiricd on Oct 10, 2020 19:15:45 GMT
Is John S Stuart around still?
He had some sensational posts and information- if he’s telling the truth he sits on some stuff QP do not, but wish they did..
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Lord Fickle
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Post by Lord Fickle on Oct 10, 2020 19:24:23 GMT
Is John S Stuart around still? He had some sensational posts and information- if he’s telling the truth he sits on some stuff QP do not, but wish they did.. Sadly John passed away just over a year ago. |
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georg
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Post by georg on Oct 10, 2020 21:46:42 GMT
Is John S Stuart around still? He had some sensational posts and information- if he’s telling the truth he sits on some stuff QP do not, but wish they did.. Sadly John passed away just over a year ago. Crikey, has it been that long? |
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Raf
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Post by Raf on Oct 10, 2020 22:03:59 GMT
It is in a shocking state but I'm concerned there is much valuable research and so on that will become lost. Would be good if it could be archived, but I suppose that would cost, and all the tons of trash would need deleting. So it's probably best to let it go. It'll just take a bunch of copy/pasting - arduous, but not impossible. If people want to preserve anything, then they should go back and revisit some of the good threads, and we can create a section of the forum with the older posts worth hanging onto.
It'd be much easier to make a bot for that. A small script to enter the main forum page, then enter each topic and sweep through each page copying username + date and time + post content. However, I feel we, human beings, would have lots of hard work to manually go through all that content later on to find the posts worth saving among all the repeated content, irrelevant posts and spam.  |
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georg
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Post by georg on Oct 10, 2020 22:10:04 GMT
It's a shame because there was a time when it was a great site to visit and have discussions, find new information and talk with people who know a lot more about the band than I do. It was starting to turn to shit and then exploded with fuckheads and trolls once the band teamed up with Adam Lambert. Without moderators the place just ate itself alive. Ah, don’t you recall 2004, when Brian and Roger teamed up with Paul Rodgers? You’d’ve thought it was the end of the world... Or Brian and Roger with Robbie Williams? Or the Pepsi fiasco? Or........ |
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Post by angusscrimm on Oct 10, 2020 22:20:35 GMT
Great forum at one point, with many colourful, knowledgeable and witty posters - now it's just a shit storm. Time to put Old Yeller to sleep.
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Post by soxtalon on Oct 10, 2020 22:22:25 GMT
It is a sad day. But it is also a long time coming. I'm glad this place was set up though. A lot of memories there. Hopefully the trolls don't find their way here...
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Steve
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Post by Steve on Oct 10, 2020 22:22:44 GMT
It is in a shocking state but I'm concerned there is much valuable research and so on that will become lost. Would be good if it could be archived, but I suppose that would cost, and all the tons of trash would need deleting. So it's probably best to let it go. It'll just take a bunch of copy/pasting - arduous, but not impossible. If people want to preserve anything, then they should go back and revisit some of the good threads, and we can create a section of the forum with the older posts worth hanging onto.
That's a good idea Bob. |
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Post by Steve on Oct 10, 2020 22:24:01 GMT
It is a sad day. But it is also a long time coming. I'm glad this place was set up though. A lot of memories there. Hopefully the trolls don't find their way here... They'll be gone quicker than they arrive! No trolls last longer than a few minutes here!!! |
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Post by soxtalon on Oct 10, 2020 22:28:49 GMT
Very true!
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Post by Golden Salmon on Oct 10, 2020 22:33:09 GMT
It is a sad day. But it is also a long time coming. I'm glad this place was set up though. A lot of memories there. Hopefully the trolls don't find their way here... They'll be gone quicker than they arrive! No trolls last longer than a few minutes here!!! Music to my ears. Or rather, literature to my eyes. |
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Post by Lord Fickle on Oct 10, 2020 23:21:24 GMT
They'll be gone quicker than they arrive! No trolls last longer than a few minutes here!!! Music to my ears. Or rather, literature to my eyes. We do need people to be vigilant though, and to report any suspicious activity via the Report Post function. The forum staff will always do our best to act quickly, but we can't all be here 24/7.  |
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Steve
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Post by Steve on Oct 11, 2020 0:29:00 GMT
Music to my ears. Or rather, literature to my eyes. We do need people to be vigilant though, and to report any suspicious activity via the Report Post function. The forum staff will always do our best to act quickly, but we can't all be here 24/7. Well said mate! |
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Post by pokemaniacjunk on Oct 11, 2020 0:42:55 GMT
I hope Fatty's stories get saved before it closes
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Raf
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Post by Raf on Oct 11, 2020 0:56:47 GMT
It'll just take a bunch of copy/pasting - arduous, but not impossible. If people want to preserve anything, then they should go back and revisit some of the good threads, and we can create a section of the forum with the older posts worth hanging onto.
It'd be much easier to make a bot for that. A small script to enter the main forum page, then enter each topic and sweep through each page copying username + date and time + post content. However, I feel we, human beings, would have lots of hard work to manually go through all that content later on to find the posts worth saving among all the repeated content, irrelevant posts and spam. Update: I made a script to do that. If anyone's got: a) Python 3 installed and... b) Probably DAYS of computer time to spare and... c) Permission from Richard to "brute force" into every thread on Queenzone's database... ...feel free to run it. github.com/rafaelmmoreira/QZBackupMakerI have performed small tests (such as scanning one entire page from a forum and scanning the last few pages of a forum) to make sure it's able to understand when a forum is over and move on to the next one on itself and it worked well. All results are exported to a neat json file, so it should be easy to rebuild it into a readable web page. I'll accept any commits fixing potential bugs or optimizations to decrease load on QZ servers. |
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