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Post by CrazyColdStone06 on Nov 24, 2020 10:31:20 GMT
I'm very courious about, which album will win
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Post by dragonkiller on Nov 24, 2020 10:54:14 GMT
I`m a early fan ,gotta be Queen 2 for me
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Post by Lord Fickle on Nov 24, 2020 11:06:05 GMT
It's a struggle to just pick one, but ADATR just edges in over NOTW for me.
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Post by Dimitris on Nov 24, 2020 14:45:16 GMT
It is very difficult to choose, I love Queen II, A Day at the Races and Innuendo. Also I appreciate Flash Gordon as instrumental work. I like very much the ideas behind it and the fact that has some parts of early- mid 70s sounds.
So I choose the one I listen these days, it is A Day at the Races.
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Post by saintjiub on Nov 24, 2020 16:08:02 GMT
A Day at the Races for me by a mile ...
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Post by ted on Nov 24, 2020 18:28:38 GMT
I'm glad to see Queen II with the most votes (at the moment), although my favourite album is SHA so I picked that one.
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Post by n39 on Nov 24, 2020 21:41:18 GMT
Close call between Queen II and Made in Heaven for me.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Nov 24, 2020 22:59:16 GMT
always used to be II for me - with I a close second.
but the older I get, the album i play the most is Races.
While II is just incredible, there are 2 poor tracks at the end of Side White.
I is a great LP - raw and interesting and full of energy.
But Races has something that neither LP has - great production and no filler.
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Post by Steve on Nov 25, 2020 8:28:42 GMT
Innuendo for me!
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Nov 25, 2020 15:54:23 GMT
i love the songs on Innuendo.
but the Synstrumentation weakens it for me. It's like they had to throw every electronic gadget possible at it: drum machines, Korg M1, Talkbox, programmed orchestra, keyboards and percussion ...even to the point of someone deciding that the Korg "powerup demo" - was good enough to use as part of a song - FFS....the curious similarities to Smiths, INXS, Police and Pachelbel
also David Richards did a lot of the heavy lifting, then throw in Moran, Howe - rendering the whole thing not solely a Queen album.
One one hand - it's Queen sounding like Queen (so much better than Game, HS, Works & AKOM), on the other hand (in places) the production is woeful.
despite all of the above, I do like it. Quite a lot.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Nov 25, 2020 17:52:40 GMT
i love the songs on Innuendo. but the Synstrumentation weakens it for me. It's like they had to throw every electronic gadget possible at it: drum machines, Korg M1, Talkbox, programmed orchestra, keyboards and percussion ...even to the point of someone deciding that the Korg "powerup demo" - was good enough to use as part of a song - FFS....the curious similarities to Smiths, INXS, Police and Pachelbel also David Richards did a lot of the heavy lifting, then throw in Moran, Howe - rendering the whole thing not solely a Queen album. One one hand - it's Queen sounding like Queen (so much better than Game, HS, Works & AKOM), on the other hand (in places) the production is woeful. despite all of the above, I do like it. Quite a lot. I agree with this about the production. There were certainly some songs that would have benefitted from a more 'organic' sound, but there are also some real clunkers on it, such as All God's People, I Can't Live With You (improved somewhat by the Rocks mix), Don't Try So Hard, The Hitman, and of course, Deiliah. It's quite a polarised album, with brilliance and utter shite in almost equal measure. |
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Post by Steve on Nov 25, 2020 18:17:53 GMT
i love the songs on Innuendo. but the Synstrumentation weakens it for me. It's like they had to throw every electronic gadget possible at it: drum machines, Korg M1, Talkbox, programmed orchestra, keyboards and percussion ...even to the point of someone deciding that the Korg "powerup demo" - was good enough to use as part of a song - FFS....the curious similarities to Smiths, INXS, Police and Pachelbel also David Richards did a lot of the heavy lifting, then throw in Moran, Howe - rendering the whole thing not solely a Queen album. One one hand - it's Queen sounding like Queen (so much better than Game, HS, Works & AKOM), on the other hand (in places) the production is woeful. despite all of the above, I do like it. Quite a lot. I agree with this about the production. There were certainly some songs that would have benefitted from a more 'organic' sound, but there are also some real clunkers on it, such as All God's People, I Can't Live With You (improved somewhat by the Rocks mix), Don't Try So Hard, The Hitman, and of course, Deiliah. It's quite a polarised album, with brilliance and utter shite in almost equal measure. Delilah is definitely not great. The Hitman however, is one of my favourites! |
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Post by Lord Fickle on Nov 25, 2020 18:31:32 GMT
I agree with this about the production. There were certainly some songs that would have benefitted from a more 'organic' sound, but there are also some real clunkers on it, such as All God's People, I Can't Live With You (improved somewhat by the Rocks mix), Don't Try So Hard, The Hitman, and of course, Deiliah. It's quite a polarised album, with brilliance and utter shite in almost equal measure. Delilah is definitely not great. The Hitman however, is one of my favourites! The trouble with it is, it's such a stifled production. It just feels like it wants to be let out, but it's stuffed behind a cushion. And it's got a fade. A good rocker never fades. 🙂 |
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Nov 25, 2020 18:36:08 GMT
Delilah is definitely not great. The Hitman however, is one of my favourites! The trouble with it is, it's such a stifled production. It just feels like it wants to be let out, but it's stuffed behind a cushion. i always though that Hitman was a complete mess wrapped up in a "noise for noise's sake". the other thing i don't like is there's an allusion to be drawn (whether intentional or not) about Freddie's illness: I'm the hitman - I'm your prize - But this hitman can cut you down to size - Love me (baby)
Don't be so cool - Love me love me baby - I've been to the hitman schoolAnd it's got a fade. A good rocker never fades. 🙂 exactly. but "fade rule" only applies to a fade-out. a fade-in can define a classic rocker : More Than A Feeling |
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Post by Lord Fickle on Nov 25, 2020 20:23:17 GMT
The trouble with it is, it's such a stifled production. It just feels like it wants to be let out, but it's stuffed behind a cushion. i always though that Hitman was a complete mess wrapped up in a "noise for noise's sake". the other thing i don't like is there's an allusion to be drawn (whether intentional or not) about Freddie's illness: I'm the hitman - I'm your prize - But this hitman can cut you down to size - Love me (baby)
Don't be so cool - Love me love me baby - I've been to the hitman schoolI think The Hitman is possibly Brian's worst song. And it's got a fade. A good rocker never fades. 🙂 exactly. but "fade rule" only applies to a fade-out. a fade-in can define a classic rocker : More Than A Feeling Fade-ins play havoc with a a playlist, though. I managed to find a stems mix of MTAF which starts complete (no fade), so that was a box ticked. 🙂 |
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Post by oreno on Nov 25, 2020 20:39:07 GMT
Sheer Heart Attack!
With runners up places for The Game and News of the World. Then.. Hot Space/Queen. Not much love for the 80s here is there?
Queen II and Races are always the uber-fan favourites, no surprise they're in the lead. In both cases I much prefer the albums either side of them. Q1 and SHA feel more urgent and immediate than QII, ANATO I prefer the songs overall and NOTW is heftier and more direct.
I wonder if people associate albums with certain life experiences - how old you were, what you were doing in life, etc. and if that influences our tastes. I might be guilty of that.
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Post by ted on Nov 25, 2020 21:11:14 GMT
While II is just incredible, there are 2 poor tracks at the end of Side White. But Races has something that neither LP has - great production and no filler. I disagree about Some Day One Day and Loser In The End; I think both tracks are quite good, though not stellar and in the same league as the previous 3 songs on Side White.
Also, although you possibly could argue that ADATR has better production than QII, I don't think it's considerably better considering the 3 year gap between the recording of both and the technical advances and additional experience Queen had in the studio when recording Races.
Plus I don't consider either Queen nor QII to have any real filler tracks; to me Races has one when you compare it to the quality of the other 9 songs on the album: STL. (Yes, you read that right)
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Post by Lord Fickle on Nov 25, 2020 21:31:20 GMT
While II is just incredible, there are 2 poor tracks at the end of Side White. But Races has something that neither LP has - great production and no filler. I disagree about Some Day One Day and Loser In The End; I think both tracks are quite good, though not stellar and in the same league as the previous 3 songs on Side White.
Also, although you possibly could argue that ADATR has better production than QII, I don't think it's considerably better considering the 3 year gap between the recording of both and the technical advances and additional experience Queen had in the studio when recording Races.
Plus I don't consider either Queen nor QII to have any real filler tracks; to me Races has one when you compare it to the quality of the other 9 songs on the album: STL. (Yes, you read that right)
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Nov 25, 2020 22:53:08 GMT
]Fade-ins play havoc with a a playlist, though. I managed to find a stems mix of MTAF which starts complete (no fade), so that was a box ticked. 🙂 that's the same one I have. i'll annoy you now, by telling you I've tried restoring the fade-in.  to me Races has one when you compare it to the quality of the other 9 songs on the album: STL. (Yes, you read that right) Ted i think you just set the world spinning on a reversed axis...civilsation is about to unravel before us. seriously. you have got to be kidding. forget the casual fans and the mainstream. the song is epic, because of what it is. listen to the ogg stems, load them into Cool Edit / Audition and mute everything. then start constructing the song by un-muting individual tracks. it's a mind-blowing listen. |
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Post by Steve on Nov 25, 2020 23:04:52 GMT
Delilah is definitely not great. The Hitman however, is one of my favourites! The trouble with it is, it's such a stifled production. It just feels like it wants to be let out, but it's stuffed behind a cushion. And it's got a fade. A good rocker never fades. 🙂 I just love the whole overall sound of it. Definitely in my top 10 songs. |
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Post by Steve on Nov 25, 2020 23:08:02 GMT
The trouble with it is, it's such a stifled production. It just feels like it wants to be let out, but it's stuffed behind a cushion. i always though that Hitman was a complete mess wrapped up in a "noise for noise's sake". the other thing i don't like is there's an allusion to be drawn (whether intentional or not) about Freddie's illness: I'm the hitman - I'm your prize - But this hitman can cut you down to size - Love me (baby)
Don't be so cool - Love me love me baby - I've been to the hitman schoolAnd it's got a fade. A good rocker never fades. 🙂 exactly. but "fade rule" only applies to a fade-out. a fade-in can define a classic rocker : More Than A Feeling Never looked at it with regards to AIDS. Just seems Brian was portraying this fictitious Hitman character. |
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Post by Steve on Nov 25, 2020 23:12:13 GMT
While II is just incredible, there are 2 poor tracks at the end of Side White. But Races has something that neither LP has - great production and no filler. I disagree about Some Day One Day and Loser In The End; I think both tracks are quite good, though not stellar and in the same league as the previous 3 songs on Side White.
Also, although you possibly could argue that ADATR has better production than QII, I don't think it's considerably better considering the 3 year gap between the recording of both and the technical advances and additional experience Queen had in the studio when recording Races.
Plus I don't consider either Queen nor QII to have any real filler tracks; to me Races has one when you compare it to the quality of the other 9 songs on the album: STL. (Yes, you read that right)
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Post by Lord Fickle on Nov 25, 2020 23:26:24 GMT
Fade-ins play havoc with a a playlist, though. I managed to find a stems mix of MTAF which starts complete (no fade), so that was a box ticked. 🙂 that's the same one I have. i'll annoy you now, by telling you I've tried restoring the fade-in. LMAO! What's the bloody point of that? Oh, I guess the stems mix has an ending as well, although, it's a bit of a jarring one. I tried to add some reverb to make it sound a bit less like the plug had been pulled. 😄 |
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Post by Frank on Nov 26, 2020 16:00:53 GMT
I wanted to respond to this topic sooner, but couldn't make up my mind...and honestly, I still can't. But today I'll go with Innuendo.
In my mind, it puts together all of my favorite Queen elements. The epic masterpiece (Innuendo), the tongue-in-cheek playfulness (I'm Going Slightly Mad and Delilah), the heaviness (The Hitman), the dramatic (The Show Must Go On), the reserved beauty (Bijou), and the rock and roll (Headlong). And that's not everything I love about it. It's got a unique atmosphere drenched in what I can only describe as self-aware. It's clearly a "signing off" record, especially with the tranquility of Bijou just prior to the greatest send-off song, The Show Must Go On. And Freddie sounds absolutely brilliant. On The Miracle, he had me worried. His voice was sounding rougher...still powerful...but for me it was leagues away from his crystal clear voice in the early to mid seventies. I've heard people argue Innuendo has filler...but I'll say it again, Delilah is super fun. Brian's guitar work is stellar! And I hear a lot about The Hitman. Yep, the fade out almost ruins it. But it didn't. Yeah, it's kind of stupid, but they sound like they're having fun. And given the circumstance, that's a miracle.
My other choice would be A Day at the Races. It's the culmination of my favorite era. All the pomp and circumstance! It's another Queen album that has no filler. From beginning to end it's ace and they never reached that level of quality again until Innuendo.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Nov 26, 2020 16:14:17 GMT
I'm surprised mate! Never heard anything bad about STL before. It's your favourite song too isn't it Martin? yes. usually STL or Nevermore (only downside being it's too short) There's probably a dozen or so Queen songs that I think are untouchable: Somebody To Love ♦ Nevermore ♦ Side Black (minus Ogre) ♦ Liar ♦ SSOR ♦ TSMGO ♦ It's Late ♦ Innuendo ♦ Drowse ♦ IWIA ♦ Was It All Worth It ♦ TATDOOL |
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Post by ted on Nov 26, 2020 16:19:31 GMT
Lord Fickle wrote: Controversial! I've never heard STL being called a filler before. I would say for the vast majority of people, it's one of Queen's most popular tracks, and was, I believe, Freddie's favourite song.
I figured my appraisal of STL would incite opposing viewpoints...I've always considered the song to be quite repetitious. I will state that I've always admired the guitar solo within, and the promo vid. for the song is actually my favourite from Queen.
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Post by ted on Nov 26, 2020 16:27:05 GMT
Brenski wrote: i think you just set the world spinning on a reversed axis...civilization is about to unravel before us.
seriously. you have got to be kidding. forget the casual fans and the mainstream. the song is epic, because of what it is. listen to the ogg stems, load them into Cool Edit / Audition and mute everything. then start constructing the song by un-muting individual tracks. it's a mind-blowing listen.
Not kidding. I'm serious. Regarding your suggestions, it appears to me that the song could be greatly improved by doing that.
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Post by ted on Nov 26, 2020 16:58:44 GMT
I'm surprised mate! Never heard anything bad about STL before. It's your favourite song too isn't it Martin? yes. usually STL or Nevermore (only downside being it's too short) There's probably a dozen or so Queen songs that I think are untouchable: Somebody To Love ♦ Nevermore ♦ Side Black (minus Ogre) ♦ Liar ♦ SSOR ♦ TSMGO ♦ It's Late ♦ Innuendo ♦ Drowse ♦ IWIA ♦ Was It All Worth It ♦ TATDOOL Well, there are quite a few Queen songs I would rate below STL (almost entirely from their post-Jazz output).
I consider it unfortunate that Brenski doesn't rate OB as being at par with the rest of Side Black but I'm pleased he rates the remainder of that album side so highly - I would place FTS and WQ along with TMOTBQ, TFFMS and OB on my list of favourites by Queen.
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Post by Steve on Nov 26, 2020 18:01:08 GMT
I'm surprised mate! Never heard anything bad about STL before. It's your favourite song too isn't it Martin? yes. usually STL or Nevermore (only downside being it's too short) There's probably a dozen or so Queen songs that I think are untouchable: Somebody To Love ♦ Nevermore ♦ Side Black (minus Ogre) ♦ Liar ♦ SSOR ♦ TSMGO ♦ It's Late ♦ Innuendo ♦ Drowse ♦ IWIA ♦ Was It All Worth It ♦ TATDOOL Innuendo is my favourite Queen song by far. Love NM and STL. WIAWI is my 3rd favourite Queen song. |
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Post by ted on Nov 26, 2020 22:12:59 GMT
Great to see that Queen II now has a fairly good lead and SHA has edged into 2nd place!
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