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Post by kimmlogan on Jan 16, 2021 3:11:54 GMT
So, after holding onto people’s money for YEARS, The people who have been supporting Thor and Lee on Queenzone, we not given advanced copies of their book. Today, people who ordered from Amazon, got their books today. At 6:25pm Thor posted this update:  Evidently, they don't even know people already received their books. 🤦♀️ I paid money because I thought that the Queenzone fans would be taken care of. I'm asking for my money back. I don't care about their ”autographs”, I’m a Queen fan, not a New York Daughter’s fan. |
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Post by Ri on Jan 16, 2021 4:07:00 GMT
It's already available on Amazon and all the unseen photos have gone out on the internet a few days ago...
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Post by kimmlogan on Jan 16, 2021 4:08:56 GMT
So, after holding onto people’s money for YEARS, The people who have been supporting Thor and Lee on Queenzone, we not given advanced copies of their book. Today, people who ordered from Amazon, got their books today. At 6:25pm Thor posted this update: Evidently, they don't even know people already received their books. 🤦♀️ I paid money because I thought that the Queenzone fans would be taken care of and receive the book ahead of others. I'm asking for my money back. I don't care about their ”autographs”, I’m a Queen fan, not a New York Daughter’s fan. |
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Post by kimmlogan on Jan 16, 2021 4:19:52 GMT
It's already available on Amazon and all the unseen photos have gone out on the internet a few days ago... Yes. The pictures and text are all over Instagram. |
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Post by saintjiub on Jan 16, 2021 5:11:52 GMT
Are you sure people got their books NEW from Amazon?
The books were likely leaked early, as they were selling used on Amazon for $150 a few days ago.
Are you really upset that you have to wait a few more weeks for the autographed book?
The third draft of the book was finally approved by Thor and Lee just days before Xmas.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Jan 16, 2021 6:41:40 GMT
The publisher distributes the book as they may - the writers have no control over that.
By any chance, are you "FreddieDearie" in threads like this? The chip on the shoulder seems to be similarly lodged.
And was it necessary to create two identical threads about this?
Once again, you are borderline trolling.
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Post by pg on Jan 16, 2021 7:18:48 GMT
The Butthurt is strong in this one.
OP clearly hasn't been.paying attention to what problems are going on in the world....
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Jan 16, 2021 7:39:07 GMT
So, after holding onto people’s money for YEARS, The people who have been supporting Thor and Lee on Queenzone, we not given advanced copies of their book. Today, people who ordered from Amazon, got their books today. At 6:25pm Thor posted this update: Evidently, they don't even know people already received their books. 🤦♀️ I paid money because I thought that the Queenzone fans would be taken care of. I'm asking for my money back. I don't care about their ”autographs”, I’m a Queen fan, not a New York Daughter’s fan. So, after holding onto people’s money for YEARS, The people who have been supporting Thor and Lee on Queenzone, we not given advanced copies of their book. Today, people who ordered from Amazon, got their books today. At 6:25pm Thor posted this update: Evidently, they don't even know people already received their books. 🤦♀️ I paid money because I thought that the Queenzone fans would be taken care of and receive the book ahead of others. I'm asking for my money back. I don't care about their ”autographs”, I’m a Queen fan, not a New York Daughter’s fan. so...was there really any need to create two new threads on the same subject, with identical posts? Don’t Stop Us Now Freddie Mercury in New York
Thor and Lee’s book. ”Dont Stop Us Now”.FYI, we can see that you're pissed about the book (Lord knows why), but your points aren't validated by this kind of duplication. The only time identical posts are relevant is if in reply to two different forum posts. yours were OPs - so no excuse. we spend enough time tidying up this place, without dealing with unnecessary detritus. I've merged the two threads together - in the correct sub-board. Please don't do this again. |
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Post by Doughnut on Jan 16, 2021 8:43:39 GMT
So, after holding onto people’s money for YEARS, The people who have been supporting Thor and Lee on Queenzone, we not given advanced copies of their book. Today, people who ordered from Amazon, got their books today. At 6:25pm Thor posted this update: Evidently, they don't even know people already received their books. 🤦♀️ I paid money because I thought that the Queenzone fans would be taken care of. I'm asking for my money back. I don't care about their ”autographs”, I’m a Queen fan, not a New York Daughter’s fan. So we have to wait a bit longer for our books , who cares . There are more important issues in life at the moment to bitch about this . The publishers have taken two naive men for a ride . It happens . |
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Post by scallyuk on Jan 16, 2021 10:27:33 GMT
This was, as expected, a waste of time (fortunately I didn't pony up my cash up front). The images were leaked/released early as was the bulk of the text.
The authors should have had full control but never mind naive authors these guys have been around a while, they watched Freddie manage his image masterfully yet got distracted when the $$ signs started appearing in their eyes.
another lesson learned.
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Post by katydyd5 on Jan 16, 2021 16:30:46 GMT
So we have to wait a bit longer for our books , who cares . There are more important issues in life at the moment to bitch about this . The publishers have taken two naive men for a ride . It happens . Exactly. Thor and Lee fully intended for the people who donated to their GFM account to have the books first. They were shocked to learn what had happened. We don't know the full story, but I find it sad that there is always a segment of the population that can find something to, as Doughnut said, bitch about. It's silly. We will all get our books. If you don't want to see the images early, then stay off the internet. I am looking forward to my book arriving even though I have already seen most of the images. So what? This is a minor issue in comparison to everything going on in the world. Relax. |
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Post by saintjiub on Jan 16, 2021 20:05:04 GMT
The publisher distributes the book as they may - the writers have no control over that.
By any chance, are you "FreddieDearie" in threads like this? The chip on the shoulder seems to be similarly lodged.
And was it necessary to create two identical threads about this?
Once again, you are borderline trolling.
I wondered if the OP was FreddieDearie as well.
On QZ, Freddie Dearie regularly promised to post the book on the web to discourage sales.
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Post by kimmlogan on Jan 16, 2021 20:11:43 GMT
So, after holding onto people’s money for YEARS, The people who have been supporting Thor and Lee on Queenzone, we not given advanced copies of their book. Today, people who ordered from Amazon, got their books today. At 6:25pm Thor posted this update: Evidently, they don't even know people already received their books. 🤦♀️ I paid money because I thought that the Queenzone fans would be taken care of. I'm asking for my money back. I don't care about their ”autographs”, I’m a Queen fan, not a New York Daughter’s fan. So, after holding onto people’s money for YEARS, The people who have been supporting Thor and Lee on Queenzone, we not given advanced copies of their book. Today, people who ordered from Amazon, got their books today. At 6:25pm Thor posted this update: Evidently, they don't even know people already received their books. 🤦♀️ I paid money because I thought that the Queenzone fans would be taken care of and receive the book ahead of others. I'm asking for my money back. I don't care about their ”autographs”, I’m a Queen fan, not a New York Daughter’s fan. so...was there really any need to create two new threads on the same subject, with identical posts? Don’t Stop Us Now Freddie Mercury in New York
Thor and Lee’s book. ”Dont Stop Us Now”.FYI, we can see that you're pissed about the book (Lord knows why), but your points aren't validated by this kind of duplication. The only time identical posts are relevant is if in reply to two different forum posts. yours were OPs - so no excuse. we spend enough time tidying up this place, without dealing with unnecessary detritus. I've merged the two threads together - in the correct sub-board. Please don't do this again. Sorry. I created the second thread because posts don't get viewed in the lower tier boards. I won't do it again. |
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Post by kimmlogan on Jan 16, 2021 20:48:05 GMT
So we have to wait a bit longer for our books , who cares . There are more important issues in life at the moment to bitch about this . The publishers have taken two naive men for a ride . It happens . Exactly. Thor and Lee fully intended for the people who donated to their GFM account to have the books first. They were shocked to learn what had happened. We don't know the full story, but I find it sad that there is always a segment of the population that can find something to, as Doughnut said, bitch about. It's silly. We will all get our books. If you don't want to see the images early, then stay off the internet. I am looking forward to my book arriving even though I have already seen most of the images. So what? This is a minor issue in comparison to everything going on in the world. Relax. No one compared this to a ”major issue”. I’m pretty sure this board is about relatively unimportant topics in general related to Queen So, I don't know why one would expect current world events to negate anything that is discussed here. Kind of strange thing to say. But for some people, spending $50 is difficult. That's nice if you’re so privileged that you don't have to worry about such things, but being dismissive of other people is unfortunate. Bottom line they’re not getting what they thought they were payin. That’s a genuine issue and needs to be respected. Not dismissed. I expected that my $50 donation would provide first access to the contents of the book. Not worried about ”spoilers”. And even if I was, it's hard to avoid on Instagram as the pictures pop up Unexpectedly So your advice is not practical. But, I do find a similarity to what's happening in world events. Cult members fail to hold their leaders accountable. Likewise, evidently, when someone criticizes your leader, you balk at any criticism and then start with personal attacks and conspiracies to divert from the issue at hand. It is true that while pocketing over $10,000, Thor and Lee failed to ensure that donors got first access. (Which they did have control over). They should make amends because its the right thing to do If you don't care about that’s your privilege. Other people care about getting ripped off. |
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Post by Doughnut on Jan 16, 2021 21:07:45 GMT
Exactly. Thor and Lee fully intended for the people who donated to their GFM account to have the books first. They were shocked to learn what had happened. We don't know the full story, but I find it sad that there is always a segment of the population that can find something to, as Doughnut said, bitch about. It's silly. We will all get our books. If you don't want to see the images early, then stay off the internet. I am looking forward to my book arriving even though I have already seen most of the images. So what? This is a minor issue in comparison to everything going on in the world. Relax. No one compared this to a ”major issue”. I’m pretty sure this board is about relatively unimportant topics in general related to Queen So, I don't know why one would expect current world events to negate anything that is discussed here. Kind of strange thing to say. But for some people, spending $50 is difficult. That's nice if you’re so privileged that you don't have to worry about such things, but being dismissive of other people is unfortunate. Bottom line they’re not getting what they thought they were payin. That’s a genuine issue and needs to be respected. Not dismissed. I expected that my $50 donation would provide first access to the contents of the book. Not worried about ”spoilers”. And even if I was, it's hard to avoid on Instagram as the pictures pop up Unexpectedly So your advice is not practical. But, I do find a similarity to what's happening in world events. Cult members fail to hold their leaders accountable. Likewise, evidently, when someone criticizes your leader, you balk at any criticism and then start with personal attacks and conspiracies to divert from the issue at hand. It is true that while pocketing over $10,000, Thor and Lee failed to ensure that donors got first access. (Which they did have control over). They should make amends because its the right thing to do If you don't care about that’s your privilege. Other people care about getting ripped off. I’m don’t feel ripped off ! My comment was as far as i am concerned there are more pressing issues. The amount paid is a hell of a lot to me but I’m still not going to bitch |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Jan 16, 2021 21:38:52 GMT
But for some people, spending $50 is difficult. If $50 is that much to you then you probably shouldn't be spending it on a book. That's on you, not the authors or their publisher. But, I do find a similarity to what's happening in world events. Cult members fail to hold their leaders accountable. Likewise, evidently, when someone criticizes your leader, you balk at any criticism and then start with personal attacks and conspiracies to divert from the issue at hand. The fact that you're equating this with a cult says everything about you and nothing about the players involved. You are the cult leader you are talking about - just without the followers. And like every other narcissist in existence, you're projecting your own behaviour onto others.
Your evasion of my question posed to you earlier in this thread (as well as saintjiub's post) all but clarifies your motivations here. You are slandering two writers in your victimhood because your sense of entitlement is not being met. You have been publicly calling their character and integrity into question for over a year now, and such behaviour is not acceptable here. All you had to do under your new username was keep your mouth shut, but you blew your cover by bringing your toxicity here. Other people care about getting ripped off. You can let others speak for themselves. But at the moment the only person who seems to feel ripped off is you. This is a music forum - not your personal platform to air out your inferiority complex. Start a blog and complain to your tiny echo chamber there. We have been more than patient with you through your piles of irrational nonsense. You're done. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2021 0:02:25 GMT
If $50 is that much to you then you probably shouldn't be spending it on a book. That's on you, not the authors or their publisher. The fact that you're equating this with a cult says everything about you and nothing about the players involved. You are the cult leader you are talking about - just without the followers. And like every other narcissist in existence, you're projecting your own behaviour onto others.
Your evasion of my question posed to you earlier in this thread (as well as saintjiub 's post) all but clarifies your motivations here. You are slandering two writers in your victimhood because your sense of entitlement is not being met. You have been publicly calling their character and integrity into question for over a year now, and such behaviour is not acceptable here. All you had to do under your new username was keep your mouth shut, but you blew your cover by bringing your toxicity here. You can let others speak for themselves. But at the moment the only person who seems to feel ripped off is you. This is a music forum - not your personal platform to air out your inferiority complex. Start a blog and complain to your tiny echo chamber there. We have been more than patient with you through your piles of irrational nonsense. You're done. Talk about a clever, no-nonsensical, delightful and almost poetic way to deal with a troll without stooping to their level but also being firm and strict for the sake of the long-term collective benefit. This was as entertaining as it was inspiring. Well done! |
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Post by Doughnut on Jan 17, 2021 8:54:57 GMT
If $50 is that much to you then you probably shouldn't be spending it on a book. That's on you, not the authors or their publisher. The fact that you're equating this with a cult says everything about you and nothing about the players involved. You are the cult leader you are talking about - just without the followers. And like every other narcissist in existence, you're projecting your own behaviour onto others.
Your evasion of my question posed to you earlier in this thread (as well as saintjiub 's post) all but clarifies your motivations here. You are slandering two writers in your victimhood because your sense of entitlement is not being met. You have been publicly calling their character and integrity into question for over a year now, and such behaviour is not acceptable here. All you had to do under your new username was keep your mouth shut, but you blew your cover by bringing your toxicity here. You can let others speak for themselves. But at the moment the only person who seems to feel ripped off is you. This is a music forum - not your personal platform to air out your inferiority complex. Start a blog and complain to your tiny echo chamber there. We have been more than patient with you through your piles of irrational nonsense. You're done. Talk about a clever, no-nonsensical, delightful and almost poetic way to deal with a troll without stooping to their level but also being firm and strict for the sake of the long-term collective benefit. This was as entertaining as it was inspiring. Well done! Totally agree |
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Post by splicksplack on Feb 7, 2021 18:16:19 GMT
I found this book a big disappointment.
I followed Thor's Queenzone threads and found them interesting and genuine. So I was interested in getting the book to see some of the pictures.
I think I was actually hoping for some night-time partying shots full of NYC nightlife but there was precious little of that.
Anyway, for $33 (£27) you get 102 pages. Out of this...
8 pages are totally blank (at different points throughout the book and not including the 2 blank flysheets front and back)
7 pages are book info (titles, forward, preface etc)
1 page is a floorpan of Freddie's Manhattan apartment
4 pages are collages of personal notes and greetings cards.
23 pages are of text (in a largish font). split as written by Thor - 16 pages, and Lee 7 pages. Basically just a few vignettes on meeting, travelling, staying in hotels and being backstage. Certainly no great insights.
60 pictures.
Some of the pictures appear to be completely un-doctored snap-shots. Surprising as Lee is supposed to be a professional standard photographer.
But the real problem is the stock (paper) that the photo pages are printed on. It's the same as the text pages which is a standard cartridge paper. Photo pages should be printed on a silk stock at least, or even a gloss stock so the pictures jump out from the page. The ink just sinks into cartridge paper and the end result is dull (yes I have worked for printing/publishing houses).
Sometimes the stock used is referred to somewhere in the books credits but I couldn't see that.
However what I did discover was interesting.
The Title page gives the publisher as Page Publishing Inc. PA and then states 'Printed in the United States of America'.
But the very last page states 'Lightening Source UK Ltd, Milton Keynes UK. A quick Google shows that they are printers.
I understand if vanity Publishing Houses like Page sub-contract the printing to companies in the different countries where they are selling the book but in that case maybe they should get rid of the 'Printed in the USA' line.
But going back to the content, it seems a very respectful book. They don't give too much away and certainly nothing salacious (and I'm sure they must have some real dirt).
It seems more like a memory jogger for those who were there who are likely to say "Oh God yes, remember where we went after that, you in the men's room with...."
But for the rest of us it's ultimately quite boring.
I understand why it costs so much (small production run etc) but to me it's not worth the money.
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Post by Brian's Wig on Mar 4, 2021 16:17:06 GMT
The only question I have is....
Is it worth buying?
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Post by saintjiub on Mar 5, 2021 2:27:17 GMT
It is a feel-good coffee table photo book. It certainly is not a "deep" book.
I enjoyed the book, and reading it left me completely relaxed. It shows the casual side of Freddie.
The book is sort of an overview of the New York Daughters friendship with Freddie, and goes into less detail than Thor's topics on QZ.
I think the book is worthwhile, and I rate it four out of five stars.
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Post by katydyd5 on Mar 8, 2021 16:40:44 GMT
If you participated in Thor's QZ threads you've heard the stories before. However, since QZ is gone and no one would want to wade through all of that again anyway, it's nice to have the stories all in one place. If you were not part of those threads, then the stories will open a new part of Freddie's world for you. The pictures were transferred from slides, so not always of the best quality though most are fine, and it's always fun to see Freddie so relaxed and just being himself. The front and back pages of the book share a collection of cards and notes Freddie sent to the guys over the years and I particularly enjoyed that as it gave Freddie a voice in the book. The photo from their last day at Garden Lodge is particularly poignant and I find it a fitting end to their journey with Freddie.
It's a nice book to add to your Freddie book collection and Thor and Lee definitely achieved their goal of sharing Freddie's little known life in NY.
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Post by kyflohgal on Dec 29, 2023 4:57:00 GMT
A friend sent me this Christmas message , written by Lee Nolan to a friend. It seems that Thor Arnold passed away this summer. The message basically says that Thor suffered a cardiac arrest in August, he was in his swimming pool doing some of his knee exercises. Lee said that they were able to revive him, but he didn't know if Thor ever regained consciousness. "After 48 hours on life support, with all tests showing signs of organ failure and no brain activity, his sister honored his advance directives and had him removed from life support." He added, "Please pass this onto anyone that you are in touch with from the blog". Much love being sent from Palm Springs, Lee. The message was sent to a person named "Peny"
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Post by mattzarella on Dec 29, 2023 5:47:30 GMT
I'm very sorry to hear that.
It's been a turbulent and pretty awful set of years for me personally, but it had been nagging on me that I hadn't sent Thor (*or the mailing address from which I received the book) a Christmas card over the past two years
He seemed a kind and appreciative guy. Anybody in medical care had to have seen SOO MUCH ... I'm thankful for what he shared with folks on here, despite the naysayers who said he and Lee's efforts merely spoke of opportunism
Damn damn damn... I'd better get to sending out those letters now.
Take care of those you call your own, and keep good company
Thank you for relaying the information
I'll toast Thor for a bit and leave the personal joys and remembrances to his family.
Sad news.
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Post by Ri on Dec 29, 2023 8:16:59 GMT
A friend sent me this Christmas message , written by Lee Nolan to a friend. It seems that Thor Arnold passed away this summer. The message basically says that Thor suffered a cardiac arrest in August, he was in his swimming pool doing some of his knee exercises. Lee said that they were able to revive him, but he didn't know if Thor ever regained consciousness. "After 48 hours on life support, with all tests showing signs of organ failure and no brain activity, his sister honored his advance directives and had him removed from life support." He added, "Please pass this onto anyone that you are in touch with from the blog". Much love being sent from Palm Springs, Lee. The message was sent to a person named "Peny" Very sorry to hear this. |
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Post by Arnaldo Ogre- on Dec 29, 2023 13:31:33 GMT
Really sad news. He was very kind with us in his interactions in the old website.
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Post by saintjiub on Dec 30, 2023 20:29:48 GMT
RIP Thor ... too young too soon. Thor, as a very engaging dude, was the last excellent thing that happened on QZ, with the possible exception of music sharing (which is even better now on QueenChat).
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Post by katydyd5 on Dec 31, 2023 0:41:33 GMT
I was so shocked and saddened to learn of Thor's passing. Too young for sure. He was a true gentleman and worked hard to keep his thread on QZ civil and kind. He was generous in his sharing of stories and made many friends through the thread and QZ that lasted past the demise of QZ. I will miss him.
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Post by Mercury Roadrunner on Jan 6, 2024 0:13:19 GMT
RIP Thor, had an honour to talk with him for a couple of times on an old queenzone site, his book of memories about Freddie, written together with Lee, will always remain in a section of good books about Freddie as on my choice in particular, and he would always remain as a charming and everyouthful young man, forever young. Will be missed
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