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Post by pg on Mar 8, 2021 8:55:31 GMT
Venue: ? - ? Date ?/?/197? Photographer: Goddard Archive / Alamy Are any of those inconsistent with Hammersmith 75? |
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Post by Chopin1995 on Mar 8, 2021 13:39:14 GMT
Brian playing golf or baseball with Red Special? It can't be the original. Also interesting to see how they preferred white or bright outfits at the end of their career, while they were wearing mainly black at the beginning. You're probably right - that has to be his Guild copy.
It was mostly summer outdoor gigs. They wanted to feel loose and comfortable, and white would trap less heat.
That's probably one of the reasons. Hot Space and The Works tours were also mostly in the summer months. |
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And love lies bleeding in my hand, oh, it kills me to think of you with another man...
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Post by Emmanuel on Mar 8, 2021 15:48:57 GMT
Venue: ? - ? Date ?/?/197? Photographer: Goddard Archive / Alamy Are any of those inconsistent with Hammersmith 75? Maybe but also could be from 1976 dates |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Mar 8, 2021 17:49:28 GMT
Venue: ? - ? Date ?/?/197? Photographer: Goddard Archive / Alamy Are any of those inconsistent with Hammersmith 75? They could be from the Nov 29 - Dec 3 shows, but definitely not Dec 24 as Brian is wearing a different outfit:
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Post by Mustapha Ibrahim on Mar 10, 2021 2:13:11 GMT
These pics were taken at almost the same moment.   |
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Post by vh on Mar 10, 2021 7:41:03 GMT
Brian playing golf or baseball with Red Special? It can't be the original. Also interesting to see how they preferred white or bright outfits at the end of their career, while they were wearing mainly black at the beginning. You're probably right - that has to be his Guild copy.
It was mostly summer outdoor gigs. They wanted to feel loose and comfortable, and white would trap less heat.
The reason for the white outfits. Playing large outdoor gigs you’re much more visible in light colours, particularly in semi darkness/ sunset or even mid evening summer light. Dark colours work much better in a blacked out indoor venue under concert lighting. Regarding Brian’s baseball bat. That is the Red Special. In 1986 he was using the 1984 Guild guitars as spares and they were fitted with Kalher trems. Brian’s knife edge system is clearly visible. |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Mar 10, 2021 8:39:55 GMT
You're probably right - that has to be his Guild copy.
It was mostly summer outdoor gigs. They wanted to feel loose and comfortable, and white would trap less heat.
The reason for the white outfits. Playing large outdoor gigs you’re much more visible in light colours, particularly in semi darkness/ sunset or even mid evening summer light. Dark colours work much better in a blacked out indoor venue under concert lighting. Regarding Brian’s baseball bat. That is the Red Special. In 1986 he was using the 1984 Guild guitars as spares and they were fitted with Kalhar trems. Brian’s knife edge system is clearly visible. I bow down, sir.
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Post by vh on Mar 10, 2021 10:32:11 GMT
The reason for the white outfits. Playing large outdoor gigs you’re much more visible in light colours, particularly in semi darkness/ sunset or even mid evening summer light. Dark colours work much better in a blacked out indoor venue under concert lighting. Regarding Brian’s baseball bat. That is the Red Special. In 1986 he was using the 1984 Guild guitars as spares and they were fitted with Kalhar trems. Brian’s knife edge system is clearly visible. I bow down, sir.
You’re too kind sir. |
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Post by Emmanuel on Mar 10, 2021 20:04:13 GMT
NEW UNSEEN PHOTOS
Date: 10/09/1976
Venue Castle, Cardiff
Photographer: Goddard Archive / Alamy Photos: B/W
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Post by The Real Wizard on Mar 10, 2021 23:21:59 GMT
NEW UNSEEN PHOTOS Date: 10/09/1976
Venue Castle, Cardiff
Photographer: Goddard Archive / Alamy Photos: B/W Great shots ! This one is almost certainly from the breakdown of Liar, as Brian is playing the E7#9 chord. |
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Post by Darren1379 on Mar 11, 2021 0:40:33 GMT
Looks great but they're scattered with Alamy watermarks which someone tried to remove.
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Post by littlequeenie97 on Mar 11, 2021 3:44:50 GMT
Great Set, i hadnt seen this one.
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Post by jo on Mar 11, 2021 4:06:29 GMT
Great set of photos but certainly an unfortunate hair era for Mr. Mercury.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Mar 12, 2021 20:09:03 GMT
Found this one on the Red Special Forum. Looks like a soundcheck from 1980. They're in their street clothes, and Brian wasn't wearing clogs on stage anymore by then.
Great shot of his pedal gear too.
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Post by jo on Mar 13, 2021 1:57:53 GMT
I'd guess this is from early in the 1980 tour, possibly rehearsals. Freddie is still rockin' the Play The Game video haircut with bangs. At some point later in July he had a completely different haircut that looks like it was done by someone better skilled. I realize that this is my second comment in the last few days about his hair but I think it's one of the easiest ways to date him because the length gradually got shorter and more thinned down by the Magic Tour.
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Post by mercurialfreddie on Mar 14, 2021 20:55:11 GMT
I have found some absolutely stunning shots from Getty Archive One of them is from Leiden 84'  |
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Post by Ryan Newton on Mar 16, 2021 6:55:35 GMT
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Post by The Real Wizard on Mar 16, 2021 7:00:05 GMT
Hanover, May 5th 1982 littlequeenie97 has a theory about that 8mm film from this tour, purported to be from this night and a few other places that's nearly convinced me. I encourage you to share your findings with the rest of this forum. I've heard from multiple people (including someone who was friends with the filmer) that the film is from primarily from Hanover and with a few bits from Dortmund. The Boblingen story is nonsense.
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Post by Ryan Newton on Mar 16, 2021 7:19:36 GMT
Hanover, May 5th 1982 littlequeenie97 has a theory about that 8mm film from this tour, purported to be from this night and a few other places that's nearly convinced me. I encourage you to share your findings with the rest of this forum. I've heard from multiple people (including someone who was friends with the filmer) that the film is from primarily from Hanover and with a few bits from Dortmund. The Boblingen story is nonsense.
Sure, but they've found bits that seemingly sync with Cologne 5/7 nearly perfectly, and no bits of film that match up with what they were wearing in Dortmund (that's what I've been told anyway. I haven't had time to actually go over it all). Cologne isn't too far from Dortmund either, so perhaps the filmer did go there. That's why I encourage littlequeenie97 to lay it all out on here. It's something worth taking up, I think. |
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Post by Ryan Newton on Mar 16, 2021 7:22:18 GMT
And I should mention that I have no doubt that at least some of the film is Hanover (in some bits Fred is wearing exactly what he is in some of those shots above), but whether the rest of it is from Dortmund or not is a mystery as of now.
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Post by littlequeenie97 on Mar 16, 2021 13:09:34 GMT
Yeah, the main thing that helps us notice that Dortmund isnt on the film is Johns outfit, in none of the 3 films where he is seen he is wearing the jeans and the red shirt, in those videos he is wearing the matching blue pants and shirt, and in the other one Brian's wearing a different outfit.
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Post by littlequeenie97 on Mar 16, 2021 13:13:22 GMT
The Brian footage Where he has a black shirt could be from Cologne 5/7 as the audio seems to match the video, specially in his speech before Love Of My Life
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Post by littlequeenie97 on Mar 16, 2021 13:14:45 GMT
The footage shot from the side of the stage could be from Leiden 4/24 as the outfits seem to match and the film too
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Post by The Real Wizard on Mar 16, 2021 17:50:10 GMT
Yeah, the main thing that helps us notice that Dortmund isnt on the film is Johns outfit, in none of the 3 films where he is seen he is wearing the jeans and the red shirt, in those videos he is wearing the matching blue pants and shirt, and in the other one Brian's wearing a different outfit. The majority of the shots are from Hanover, so it may well be that Deacon isn't in the few shots from Dortmund. The Brian footage Where he has a black shirt could be from Cologne 5/7 as the audio seems to match the video, specially in his speech before Love Of My Life Intriguing - feel free to post a sample of your sync. The footage shot from the side of the stage could be from Leiden 4/24 as the outfits seem to match and the film too Definitely not. The filmer was German and didn't attend the Leiden shows. And we know well by now that Queen wore the same outfits at multiple shows - sometimes for entire tours. |
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Post by littlequeenie97 on Mar 16, 2021 17:55:01 GMT
The majority of the shots are from Hanover, so it may well be that Deacon isn't in the few shots from Dortmund. Yeah, But in the shots where John isnt seen, Freddie is wearing the Hannover outfit and in the shots where Brian is alone he has the black shirt, which he didnt wear in Dortmund |
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Post by Ryan Newton on Mar 16, 2021 18:05:03 GMT
The majority of the shots are from Hanover, so it may well be that Deacon isn't in the few shots from Dortmund. Yeah, But in the shots where John isnt seen, Freddie is wearing the Hannover outfit and in the shots where Brian is alone he has the black shirt, which he didnt wear in Dortmund That's a fair observation but in the above Hanover shots we can see Brian in multiple different outfits as well. John usually didn't seem to change outfits mid-show but the other three certainly did on many nights. |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Mar 16, 2021 18:11:29 GMT
The majority of the shots are from Hanover, so it may well be that Deacon isn't in the few shots from Dortmund. Yeah, But in the shots where John isnt seen, Freddie is wearing the Hannover outfit and in the shots where Brian is alone he has the black shirt, which he didnt wear in Dortmund There are just two photos from Dortmund. They could be from a different spot in the show, or maybe they're mislabelled. Far stranger things have happened.
But if those bits are from Cologne, then I look forward to seeing your sync when you get the chance.
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Post by littlequeenie97 on Mar 16, 2021 18:13:11 GMT
Yeah, But in the shots where John isnt seen, Freddie is wearing the Hannover outfit and in the shots where Brian is alone he has the black shirt, which he didnt wear in Dortmund That's a fair observation but in the above Hanover shots we can see Brian in multiple different outfits as well. John usually didn't seem to change outfits mid-show but the other three certainly did on many nights. Yeah, but in that photo set one can see Brian with the white shirt during Love Of My Life, and in the 8mm film he has the black one in that exact same song, so it isnt from Hannover. |
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Post by littlequeenie97 on Mar 16, 2021 18:14:40 GMT
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Post by Ryan Newton on Mar 16, 2021 18:16:31 GMT
That's a fair observation but in the above Hanover shots we can see Brian in multiple different outfits as well. John usually didn't seem to change outfits mid-show but the other three certainly did on many nights. Yeah, but in that photo set one can see Brian with the white shirt during Love Of My Life, and in the 8mm film he has the black one in that exact same song, so it isnt from Hannover. Yep, good point. That bit on the film definitely isn't Hanover. A good way to compare them would be to sync Dortmund as well and compare it with your Cologne sync. I thought the Cologne bit looked good. |
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