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Post by vicspec on Jun 16, 2021 21:32:16 GMT
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Lord Fickle
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Post by Lord Fickle on Jun 16, 2021 21:45:00 GMT
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Steve
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Post by Steve on Jun 16, 2021 21:53:00 GMT
Very odd!
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Post by rylan2020 on Jun 16, 2021 22:51:44 GMT
This is probably why they never went to Korea
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Post by Golden Salmon on Jun 16, 2021 23:02:12 GMT
I was just thinking the other day that this would eventually happen, only that I imagined a possible rock cover or even an attempt to give vocals to original Queen songs or unfinished demos.
This is straight evil. Kill it with fire!
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Post by angusscrimm on Jun 17, 2021 0:12:09 GMT
The clip is crap, but the fact it can be done is quite exciting. Maybe we'll hear that Phantom Of The Opera stuff, or New York New York now lol.
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Post by mrsebas25 on Jun 17, 2021 0:24:45 GMT
HOLY SHIT!!! THAT WAS UNBELIEVABLE!!!
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Post by robbybloodshed on Jun 17, 2021 1:29:43 GMT
This is fuckin’ scary!
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Post by georg on Jun 17, 2021 2:40:18 GMT
Christ. Just because you could doesn’t mean you should…
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DasTarD
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Post by DasTarD on Jun 17, 2021 9:54:20 GMT
This is actually great, if this comes available as a tool we could make our own Queen songs, replacing Brian in Mother Love for example...or am I saying something stupid?
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Post by bananawig on Jun 17, 2021 10:09:18 GMT
Wow. That's impressive and slightly terrifying and exciting!?
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Post by n39 on Jun 17, 2021 13:14:20 GMT
Wow, this is amazing technology.
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Post by Makka on Jun 17, 2021 13:55:05 GMT
When you see deep fake videos and now audio it is pretty scary of what the future holds. Nothing will ever be believable again.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Jun 17, 2021 14:00:37 GMT
This is actually great, if this comes available as a tool we could make our own Queen songs, replacing Brian in Mother Love for example...or am I saying something stupid? definitely not stupid. i'd love to hear some of Brian & Roger's songs sung by Freddie |
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Post by Frank on Jun 17, 2021 15:47:25 GMT
It's scary good. I'd like to hear more!
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Post by Lord Fickle on Jun 17, 2021 16:00:18 GMT
This is actually great, if this comes available as a tool we could make our own Queen songs, replacing Brian in Mother Love for example...or am I saying something stupid? definitely not stupid. i'd love to hear some of Brian & Roger's songs sung by Freddie I think this sort of technology is certainly open to some ethical debate. How would we feel, for example, if Brian and Roger wrote ten new songs, got an AI 'Freddie' to sing them and called it a Queen album? I guess it's similar to having holographic images of people on stage, like they did with Ronnie James Dio. Might be fun for a while, but then all the rights and wrongs start creeping in. |
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Post by n39 on Jun 17, 2021 16:59:02 GMT
Brings definite ethical issues.
I think they had a hologram of Tupac perform live on stage a few years back, obviously it was visual and this thread concerns audio but it's all interlinked.
And fairly sure Kanye West created a hologram of Robert Kardashian and had it say what he wanted it to... a definite ethical dilemma if we can be putting words in a dead person's mouth.
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Post by masterstroke on Jun 17, 2021 17:06:51 GMT
definitely not stupid. i'd love to hear some of Brian & Roger's songs sung by Freddie I think this sort of technology is certainly open to some ethical debate. How would we feel, for example, if Brian and Roger wrote ten new songs, got an AI 'Freddie' to sing them and called it a Queen album? I guess it's similar to having holographic images of people on stage, like they did with Ronnie James Dio. Might be fun for a while, but then all the rights and wrongs start creeping in. This example that we may not like, but the AI ​​tool will make it better every time. In the future (and now) it will be difficult to know which images, videos or voices are real. I don't like it, but, unfortunately, it will be like that. Some of this, about a dystopian future is mentioned in some of Roger's songs. Sorry for my poor Google english. |
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Post by Steve on Jun 17, 2021 17:17:06 GMT
This is actually great, if this comes available as a tool we could make our own Queen songs, replacing Brian in Mother Love for example...or am I saying something stupid? Not stupid in any way mate. Very good idea actually! |
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Jun 17, 2021 18:07:13 GMT
...and Let Me Live "rebuilt as Freddie only" could be very good.
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Post by Steve on Jun 17, 2021 18:50:48 GMT
...and Let Me Live "rebuilt as Freddie only" could be very good. Yes! Who's gonna work on that then? 😂 |
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Post by Strange_frontier on Jun 17, 2021 20:49:23 GMT
This is not "scary" or terrifying at all. It's fascinating. Can't wait for us to try it Holy shit this is amazing--in fact I prefer this kind of AI to the "deepfake faces" thingy  |
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Post by billy on Jun 17, 2021 23:04:17 GMT
Wow. Just wow. I’m not sure what I think about this. I do know how I feel, though, since the hair on my arms stood up on end but I had to tell them to lie back down since I know it’s not really him. Wow.
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Post by Golden Salmon on Jun 17, 2021 23:12:53 GMT
Wow, this is amazing technology. It really is, and Freddie's voice will be a high goal to strive for. Give it another decade and we're in for convincing results in all fields AI. That said, we could do without this particular attempt, haha. |
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Post by Nuppiz on Jun 18, 2021 16:39:15 GMT
I gave it a listen yesterday and was somewhat unconvinced, however now that I gave it another listen it does sound rather good. Or it might be that I've already had a couple of beers to celebrate my summer vacation...
But I'm seriously conflicted about this sort of technology. On the other hand it could be used to complete unfinished projects by vocalists who died too soon (Freddie included). But on the other hand, as someone who is (anachronistically) fascinated with the analog era of audio recording, this sort of technical manipulation to create entirely new vocals feels... bizarre.
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Post by georg on Jun 18, 2021 17:13:33 GMT
It’s frightening to me that after I’m dead this kind of technology could ostensibly be used to put words I never said into my mouth.
Then again, I’ll be dead, so I won’t care, but my family probably would.
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Post by straycatbeatles on Jun 19, 2021 7:17:40 GMT
the title for this thread sounds so terrifying and i haven't even heard the clip yet
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Jun 19, 2021 11:19:14 GMT
I gave it a listen yesterday and was somewhat unconvinced, however now that I gave it another listen it does sound rather good. and, people: this is really just the beginning. this kind of software is in its infancy. stop and think how good this will be in (say) five years, when the algorithms and sample data have been manipulated to and extent that stuff will sound utterly convincing. maybe in ten years deepfake (and their ilk) reach zenith, we'll be hearing new songs with vocals provided by singers long gone, that will be completely indistinguishable from said singers' own work...where does this stop? guitar, drums, keyboards? eventually, we'll be able to program a "virtual Queen" or "virtual Beatles" from scraps of old unused lyrics found in archives. |
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Post by Lord Fickle on Jun 19, 2021 12:35:09 GMT
I gave it a listen yesterday and was somewhat unconvinced, however now that I gave it another listen it does sound rather good. and, people: this is really just the beginning. this kind of software is in its infancy. stop and think how good this will be in (say) five years, when the algorithms and sample data have been manipulated to and extent that stuff will sound utterly convincing. maybe in ten years deepfake (and their ilk) reach zenith, we'll be hearing new songs with vocals provided by singers long gone, that will be completely indistinguishable from said singers' own work...where does this stop? guitar, drums, keyboards? eventually, we'll be able to program a "virtual Queen" or "virtual Beatles" from scraps of old unused lyrics found in archives. I'm sure the lawyers will have a field day! |
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Post by DasTarD on Jun 19, 2021 17:05:28 GMT
and, people: this is really just the beginning. this kind of software is in its infancy. stop and think how good this will be in (say) five years, when the algorithms and sample data have been manipulated to and extent that stuff will sound utterly convincing. maybe in ten years deepfake (and their ilk) reach zenith, we'll be hearing new songs with vocals provided by singers long gone, that will be completely indistinguishable from said singers' own work...where does this stop? guitar, drums, keyboards? eventually, we'll be able to program a "virtual Queen" or "virtual Beatles" from scraps of old unused lyrics found in archives. Interesting, I could let the whole band play my songs, I doubt if the songs would be better but they would sound like Queen, haha :-) |
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