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Post by Lord Fickle on Jan 25, 2022 17:54:40 GMT
I hope that not only is it proven that Long Away was performed at that show but a decent recording of the song somehow is found. To me that would match the importance of existing live recordings of songs such as Great King Rat, The Fairy Fellers Master-Stroke, See What a Fool I've Been and Sleeping on the Sidewalk. Ted Dont forget the holy grail of Hangman. I would argue that the holy grail would be the studio version of Hangman, but I'd also love to have a properly recorded and produced version of It's Late live, plus of course, anything from the 1976/77 tours that haven't been released yet. Of course, Long Away would be a treasure, given that, like FFMS, it's not officially *known* to have been played live. |
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Post by beyondthemoon on Jan 25, 2022 18:47:39 GMT
I have been thinking about this more since Madison came out yesterday. Both Madison and Richfield aren't exactly stunning renditions of You Take My Breath Away, and we now know Freddie must have gotten sick at the beginning of the tour based on how he sounds at Madison. I think it would make sense that You Take My Breath Away would be temporarily dropped, seeing as especially with falsetto (some of which he still attempts at Richfield), it would not be easy for an ailing Freddie to sing.
Of course we know Madison and Richfield have You Take My Breath Away, but what about the other shows on the tour?
Columbus has a confirmed setlist thanks to the QPL soundboard which includes You Take My Breath Away, as included in the Gary Taylor book.
We can deduce from the stills of the Detroit super 8 that YTMBA is done there too, Freddie is not in an encore leotard and is at the piano right after '39 (also the footage goes from the medley to Brighton Rock, so combined with the knowledge of what they were doing in Saginaw, this also means Sweet Lady was likely done in the Opera spot):
A review of Kalamazoo mentions You Take My Breath Away, so we can count that one too:
With this knowledge, I would presume that unless it was done at Louisville, Saginaw would be the only Long Away. It really must have been a one-off thing if the review is correct.
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Post by ted on Jan 25, 2022 19:27:03 GMT
georg wrote: Dont forget the holy grail of Hangman.
But agreed, Long Away has long been a favorite of mine, and I was excited when Brian pulled it out of mothballs for a few brief half-performances on the 2005 QPR tour, but then he gave preference to ‘39 so that was that. Then I think Brian played it with Taylor Hawkins’ band sometime in 2010? As far as I know, that’s the only full live performance of the song with Brian out there.
Sorry, I forgot about the non-album track Hangman. I haven't heard the QPR nor the Taylor Hawkins Band performance of LA yet. Ted |
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Post by ted on Jan 25, 2022 19:33:01 GMT
Lord Fickle wrote: I would argue that the holy grail would be the studio version of Hangman, but I'd also love to have a properly recorded and produced version of It's Late live, plus of course, anything from the 1976/77 tours that haven't been released yet. Of course, Long Away would be a treasure, given that, like FFMS, it's not officially *known* to have been played live.
I agree, It's Late is another song that would be great to have a quality live version of. I'm glad we now have 3 great studio versions of the track: the NOTW original recording, the BBC version and the NOTW 40th Anniversary release/outtake recording.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Jan 25, 2022 19:59:54 GMT
Lord Fickle wrote: I would argue that the holy grail would be the studio version of Hangman, but I'd also love to have a properly recorded and produced version of It's Late live, plus of course, anything from the 1976/77 tours that haven't been released yet. Of course, Long Away would be a treasure, given that, like FFMS, it's not officially *known* to have been played live.I agree, It's Late is another song that would be great to have a quality live version of. I'm glad we now have 3 great studio versions of the track: the NOTW original recording, the BBC version and the NOTW 40th Anniversary release/outtake recording. Ted Got to say, I'm not keen on the BBC version of It's Late. It could have been great, but for the insertion of a load of twaddle from the middle of Get Down Make Love, which ruined it for me. I wouldn't have minded if they'd still played the whole song around that GDML middle section, then it could have been edited out to leave It's Late complete. |
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Post by ActionThisDay on Jan 25, 2022 21:59:02 GMT
I like how that Kalamazoo review calls Freddie a 'young man' when he was 30 years old at the time.
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Post by ted on Jan 25, 2022 22:07:52 GMT
Lord Fickle wrote: I would argue that the holy grail would be the studio version of Hangman, but I'd also love to have a properly recorded and produced version of It's Late live, plus of course, anything from the 1976/77 tours that haven't been released yet. Of course, Long Away would be a treasure, given that, like FFMS, it's not officially *known* to have been played live.I agree, It's Late is another song that would be great to have a quality live version of. I'm glad we now have 3 great studio versions of the track: the NOTW original recording, the BBC version and the NOTW 40th Anniversary release/outtake recording. Ted Got to say, I'm not keen on the BBC version of It's Late. It could have been great, but for the insertion of a load of twaddle from the middle of Get Down Make Love, which ruined it for me. I wouldn't have minded if they'd still played the whole song around that GDML middle section, then it could have been edited out to leave It's Late complete. I haven't listened to the BBC It's Late for some time but yes, I admit that replacing a portion of the song with the 'load of twaddle' from the middle of GDML does not benefit the recording. Yes, if the entire song had been played and edited in the manner you suggest, that would have been a big improvement.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Jan 25, 2022 22:56:42 GMT
Got to say, I'm not keen on the BBC version of It's Late. It could have been great, but for the insertion of a load of twaddle from the middle of Get Down Make Love, which ruined it for me. I wouldn't have minded if they'd still played the whole song around that GDML middle section, then it could have been edited out to leave It's Late complete. I haven't listened to the BBC It's Late for some time but yes, I admit that replacing a portion of the song with the 'load of twaddle' from the middle of GDML does not benefit the recording. Yes, if the entire song had been played and edited in the manner you suggest, that would have been a big improvement.
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I remember when I got my hands on that recording many many years ago, I was so crushed, as it had great versions of all the other songs, but It's Late, my favourite ever Queen track, was an abomination!  |
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Post by ted on Jan 26, 2022 2:30:03 GMT
I haven't listened to the BBC It's Late for some time but yes, I admit that replacing a portion of the song with the 'load of twaddle' from the middle of GDML does not benefit the recording. Yes, if the entire song had been played and edited in the manner you suggest, that would have been a big improvement.
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I remember when I got my hands on that recording many many years ago, I was so crushed, as it had great versions of all the other songs, but It's Late, my favourite ever Queen track, was an abomination! I still have a boot. of the John Peel BBC Session which includes all of the songs in quite good quality. The re-worked version of Spread Your Wings and what I believe is the only known studio recording of the 'fast, guitar version' of WWRY are standouts for me.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Jan 26, 2022 18:24:07 GMT
We can deduce from the stills of the Detroit super 8 that YTMBA is done there too, Freddie is not in an encore leotard and is at the piano right after '39 (also the footage goes from the medley to Brighton Rock, so combined with the knowledge of what they were doing in Saginaw, this also means Sweet Lady was likely done in the Opera spot): Not necessarily. Frames 39-41 could easily be BoRhap, not least because Deacon is seen in one of them. And the filmer could have easily skipped a song or two.
All these frames prove is that some of the show was filmed - not that certain things didn't happen. It's impossible to prove a negative. In this case there could even be a missing reel at any point in the progression.
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Post by beyondthemoon on Jan 26, 2022 20:58:41 GMT
We can deduce from the stills of the Detroit super 8 that YTMBA is done there too, Freddie is not in an encore leotard and is at the piano right after '39 (also the footage goes from the medley to Brighton Rock, so combined with the knowledge of what they were doing in Saginaw, this also means Sweet Lady was likely done in the Opera spot): Not necessarily. Frames 39-41 could easily be BoRhap, not least because Deacon is seen in one of them. And the filmer could have easily skipped a song or two.
All these frames prove is that some of the show was filmed - not that certain things didn't happen. It's impossible to prove a negative. In this case there could even be a missing reel at any point in the progression.
For some reason, I thought Freddie wore the encore for all of Bohemian Rhapsody instead of switching during the opera section. Thanks for correcting me! |
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Post by peacelovingguy on Feb 5, 2022 19:31:49 GMT
A couple of years back, my highly charming significant other talked to Roger about Tenement Funster and politely demanded he play it with QAL. (Apparently she wasn’t charming enough). Anyway, he told her they had played it live “in the early days.”
Obviously I took this with a lorry load of salt. But there is a review that mentions it being played, on the US Sheer Heart Attack tour I think.
You never know with these things.
Axl Rose spontaneously sang a bit of Sail Away Sweet Sister once at a Guns N Roses concert. If it wasn’t on YouTube and happened in the 70s instead of the 90s, it would be difficult to prove that it was ever performed.
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Post by Setzer on Feb 5, 2022 23:37:45 GMT
Axl Rose spontaneously sang a bit of Sail Away Sweet Sister once at a Guns N Roses concert. If it wasn’t on YouTube and happened in the 70s instead of the 90s, it would be difficult to prove that it was ever performed. Except that happened more than just once  |
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Post by manymilesaway on Feb 6, 2022 2:09:09 GMT
A couple of years back, my highly charming significant other talked to Roger about Tenement Funster and politely demanded he play it with QAL. (Apparently she wasn’t charming enough). Anyway, he told her they had played it live “in the early days.” Obviously I took this with a lorry load of salt. But there is a review that mentions it being played, on the US Sheer Heart Attack tour I think. You never know with these things. Axl Rose spontaneously sang a bit of Sail Away Sweet Sister once at a Guns N Roses concert. If it wasn’t on YouTube and happened in the 70s instead of the 90s, it would be difficult to prove that it was ever performed. By "early days", Roger was probably referring to his solo ventures where he performed it. I haven't heard of the US SHA claim but I'm skeptical of that. |
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Post by ted on Feb 6, 2022 15:38:40 GMT
^^ That's a good rendition of TF, my favourite Roger Taylor Queen song. Nice to hear that Rog can still sing all of the right notes. That was also a nice touch, throwing in the intro. to Flick of the Wrist at the end.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Feb 6, 2022 19:40:25 GMT
Axl Rose spontaneously sang a bit of Sail Away Sweet Sister once at a Guns N Roses concert. If it wasn’t on YouTube and happened in the 70s instead of the 90s, it would be difficult to prove that it was ever performed. Except that happened more than just once  Not to mention there was a such thing as tapes circulating before the internet existed. People were trading tapes in the '70s. |
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Post by mikusguitarius on Feb 11, 2022 0:10:13 GMT
I know for a fact - Neil Fairclough told me to my face - that Long Away was actively rehearsed for a previous QL + Lambert tour but ultimately didn't make the set list.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Feb 11, 2022 1:00:09 GMT
I know for a fact - Neil Fairclough told me to my face - that Long Away was actively rehearsed for a previous QL + Lambert tour but ultimately didn't make the set list. With Adam or Brian singing, I wonder ? Probably Brian, I'd imagine. |
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Post by funinspace81 on Feb 11, 2022 2:36:30 GMT
I know for a fact - Neil Fairclough told me to my face - that Long Away was actively rehearsed for a previous QL + Lambert tour but ultimately didn't make the set list. Hmmm... i am skeptical about this. What's Neil Fairclough's source? |
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Post by Ri on Feb 11, 2022 5:08:22 GMT
I know for a fact - Neil Fairclough told me to my face - that Long Away was actively rehearsed for a previous QL + Lambert tour but ultimately didn't make the set list. Maybe for Brian's acoustic set? What year was this btw? |
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Post by georg on Feb 11, 2022 12:39:18 GMT
I know for a fact - Neil Fairclough told me to my face - that Long Away was actively rehearsed for a previous QL + Lambert tour but ultimately didn't make the set list. Maybe for Brian's acoustic set? What year was this btw? ’39 wait |
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Post by ActionThisDay on Feb 12, 2022 14:20:40 GMT
Could there be any other tracks that were originally thought to have not been performed live but actually did get one or two outings?
We knew about Sleeping on the Sidewalk years ago and The Fairy Fellers Master Stroke after the Rainbow release, Long Away potentially at this show.
Anything else?
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Post by mrqueenguy on Feb 12, 2022 14:56:56 GMT
I really hope they tried Las Palabras De Amor after all somewhere in the North American leg of the Hot Space Tour (it's one of my favourites of the album), but sadly that is really unlikely:(
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Post by ActionThisDay on Feb 12, 2022 22:30:15 GMT
Las Palabras would be one of the leading candidates, they soundchecked it at Leeds and Brian played the intro before Love of my Life at Milton Keynes.
It's Queen's biggest hit they never played live (#17), it's no surprise that Brian got the band to play it at the first opportunity after Freddie died (the Tribute concert).
Almost all of the Hot Space tracks got an outing during the album tour but not Las Palabras, I think this was one of several sore points that made Brian consider quitting the band by late 1982.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Feb 12, 2022 22:33:10 GMT
Could there be any other tracks that were originally thought to have not been performed live but actually did get one or two outings? We knew about Sleeping on the Sidewalk years ago and The Fairy Fellers Master Stroke after the Rainbow release, Long Away potentially at this show. The Night Comes Down was apparently played once in 1974. |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Feb 12, 2022 22:35:14 GMT
Las Palabras would be one of the leading candidates, they soundchecked it at Leeds and Brian played the intro before Love of my Life at Milton Keynes. It's Queen's biggest hit they never played live (#17), it's no surprise that Brian got the band to play it at the first opportunity after Freddie died (the Tribute concert). Almost all of the Hot Space tracks got an outing during the album tour but not Las Palabras, I think this was one of several sore points that made Brian consider quitting the band by late 1982. What's your source that he was thinking of quitting at all ?
It seems there was a general consensus that they all just needed a break after a solid decade of work.
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Post by mikusguitarius on Feb 13, 2022 0:34:33 GMT
I know for a fact - Neil Fairclough told me to my face - that Long Away was actively rehearsed for a previous QL + Lambert tour but ultimately didn't make the set list. With Adam or Brian singing, I wonder ? Probably Brian, I'd imagine. Fair question.... no idea I'm afraid!! |
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Post by mikusguitarius on Feb 13, 2022 0:36:13 GMT
I know for a fact - Neil Fairclough told me to my face - that Long Away was actively rehearsed for a previous QL + Lambert tour but ultimately didn't make the set list. Maybe for Brian's acoustic set? What year was this btw? Hmm.... I just can't recall..... He was playing bass for a mutual friend who introduced us BTW. |
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Post by georg on Feb 13, 2022 2:04:15 GMT
With Adam or Brian singing, I wonder ? Probably Brian, I'd imagine. Fair question.... no idea I'm afraid!! He did play a verse and a chorus on some early 2005 Q+PR gigs, in lieu of ‘39, so I’d imagine it’d be him singing it nowadays (or whenever it was last rehearsed). edit: Christ, I mentioned the 2005 performances on page 1, getting old sucks. |
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Post by ActionThisDay on Feb 13, 2022 16:05:13 GMT
What's your source that he was thinking of quitting at all ? It seems there was a general consensus that they all just needed a break after a solid decade of work. The Guitar Player 1983 interview, perhaps 'thinking of quitting' is putting it a bit strong but he certainly had doubts about continuing to do the live show: 'I didn't feel that this (Hot Space) tour was making me very happy. I've often felt that in the studio, but that's the first time I felt it on tour. I didn't feel happy until the last concert. The last night in L.A. I felt quite cheered up. I was prepared to think, "Well, I don't really want to do this anymore".' |
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