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Post by pg on Jun 11, 2022 8:42:39 GMT
I'm sure they'll play it again at the Taylor Hawkins tribute concert. Along with Tenement Funster, Coming Soon and Sail Away Sweet Sister. While I agree that this is a great opportunity for some niche selections, I suspect it'll be WWRY, UP, STL. |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Aug 23, 2022 16:00:44 GMT
Two more reviews of Saginaw 1/20/77 - both of which mention Long Away. That seals the deal.
If an audience member wasn't up to the task of taping, then it looks like these reviews are the closest we'll ever get to confirming it happened.
(side note - did these two reviewers attend the same show?)
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Post by beyondthemoon on Aug 23, 2022 16:36:30 GMT
Two more reviews of Saginaw 1/20/77 - both of which mention Long Away. That seals the deal.
If an audience member wasn't up to the task of taping, then it looks like these reviews are the closest we'll ever get to confirming it happened.
(side note - did these two reviewers attend the same show?)
Incredible find! The second review here mentions You Take My Breath Away, and the original you posted mentions '39, so it clearly didn't replace any song in the set. First time Queen ever did an acoustic set longer than one song, which wouldn't happen again until News Of The World tour. |
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Post by NathanH on Aug 23, 2022 18:18:57 GMT
This has only opened up even more questions!
You'd assume the song to be played acoustically between '39 and You Take My Breath Away but the fact that only Freddie plays on YTMBA, there's nothing stopping Brian switching to electric, Roger returning to drums or even Freddie going to the piano (if this might have been a new arrangement of the song, not unheard of in Queen shows).
Freddie makes it clear in the interview I shared before that they couldn't work out where to play it in the set. Surely if it always featured an acoustic guitar, it would've been clear to play the three songs together from the start?
Also, did Brian or Freddie sing? A fan for a show later on in the tour (I can't remember which one!) said that Brian apparently sang '39. Did he mean '39 or Long Away? You can see someone getting confused between the two songs especially from a faded memory from decades before. It's also not unheard of for a song to be played once earlier in the tour before being revived.
My personal opinion is '39 and Long Away are very similar songs, especially compared to any other consecutive songs in the set, which may have been why they dropped LA. '39 would've been the more known song having been in the public for longer and being released on a single (You're My Best Friend) by this point unlike LA.
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Post by victorvil on Aug 23, 2022 19:04:25 GMT
This has only opened up even more questions! You'd assume the song to be played acoustically between '39 and You Take My Breath Away but the fact that only Freddie plays on YTMBA, there's nothing stopping Brian switching to electric, Roger returning to drums or even Freddie going to the piano (if this might have been a new arrangement of the song, not unheard of in Queen shows). Freddie makes it clear in the interview I shared before that they couldn't work out where to play it in the set. Surely if it always featured an acoustic guitar, it would've been clear to play the three songs together from the start? Also, did Brian or Freddie sing? A fan for a show later on in the tour (I can't remember which one!) said that Brian apparently sang '39. Did he mean '39 or Long Away? You can see someone getting confused between the two songs especially from a faded memory from decades before. It's also not unheard of for a song to be played once earlier in the tour before being revived. My personal opinion is '39 and Long Away are very similar songs, especially compared to any other consecutive songs in the set, which may have been why they dropped LA. '39 would've been the more known song having been in the public for longer and being released on a single (You're My Best Friend) by this point unlike LA. Very good points, I was wandering the same! A recording of this is close now to a holy grail. |
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Post by 85guild on Aug 23, 2022 20:31:48 GMT
Quite an interesting thread. In addition to the potential of Long Away being played live, we have the possibility of two never before heard songs with "All your loving tonight" and "Light man."
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Post by NathanH on Aug 23, 2022 21:33:00 GMT
Quite an interesting thread. In addition to the potential of Long Away being played live, we have the possibility of two never before heard songs with "All your loving tonight" and "Light man." Haha it's embarrassing when critics don't know the name of a song, I dunno why but it's not the first time I've heard Tie Your Mother Down referred to as All Your Love Tonight... |
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Post by vh on Aug 23, 2022 22:20:42 GMT
This has only opened up even more questions! You'd assume the song to be played acoustically between '39 and You Take My Breath Away but the fact that only Freddie plays on YTMBA, there's nothing stopping Brian switching to electric, Roger returning to drums or even Freddie going to the piano (if this might have been a new arrangement of the song, not unheard of in Queen shows). Freddie makes it clear in the interview I shared before that they couldn't work out where to play it in the set. Surely if it always featured an acoustic guitar, it would've been clear to play the three songs together from the start? Also, did Brian or Freddie sing? Isn’t it possible that Long Away could have been sung by Brian while Freddie had a short break. As part of the acoustic set John on Bass, Roger Kick drum, Tambourine and BV’s and Brian 12 string and vocals, basically the same band and stage set up as 39 without Freddie. |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Aug 23, 2022 22:42:39 GMT
Also, did Brian or Freddie sing? I'd say Freddie. Surely one of the three reviewers would've noted that another member of the band took the lead vocal on a song. |
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Post by masterstroke on Aug 24, 2022 8:31:07 GMT
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Post by akirafish on Aug 24, 2022 12:59:06 GMT
Not totally relevant, but maybe worth mentioning that Gary Taylor wrote in his book Queen In Concert In Canada:
"At the New Haven Coliseum, the band are apparently heard rehearsing 'Long Away'. They try for at least 30 minutes, but it is just not working live. They then give up trying. A fan taped this rehearsal at the time, but the recording has since been lost."
So they give the song a second try in November 1977.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Aug 24, 2022 17:34:21 GMT
The first one was just someone copying/pasting another setlist from the tour, and the second one was edited earlier today almost certainly by someone who read this thread. And an unimportant question: Is the Wendler Arena the same as the Civic Center? "The Saginaw Civic Center was built in 1972 by the City of Saginaw. The Civic Center was composed of three main parts: Wendler Arena, Heritage Theater,and Unity Hall." |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Aug 24, 2022 17:36:23 GMT
Not totally relevant, but maybe worth mentioning that Gary Taylor wrote in his book Queen In Concert In Canada: "At the New Haven Coliseum, the band are apparently heard rehearsing 'Long Away'. They try for at least 30 minutes, but it is just not working live. They then give up trying. A fan taped this rehearsal at the time, but the recording has since been lost." So they give the song a second try in November 1977. I heard the same story too, and it was the ADATR tour. Many moons ago I spoke with someone who'd heard the recording, but chances of procuring a copy are long gone if there ever were any.
Honestly, I doubt they would've tried the song again if it didn't work the first time. But who knows - anything's possible. If anyone said a decade ago that a live version of The Fairy Feller's Master Stroke would be officially released in six months, we'd all told them that they were mad.
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Post by NathanH on Aug 24, 2022 17:50:57 GMT
the second one was edited earlier today almost certainly by someone who read this thread. Me 😁 |
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Post by soxtalon on Aug 26, 2022 5:35:01 GMT
Not totally relevant, but maybe worth mentioning that Gary Taylor wrote in his book Queen In Concert In Canada: "At the New Haven Coliseum, the band are apparently heard rehearsing 'Long Away'. They try for at least 30 minutes, but it is just not working live. They then give up trying. A fan taped this rehearsal at the time, but the recording has since been lost." So they give the song a second try in November 1977. I heard the same story too, and it was the ADATR tour. Many moons ago I spoke with someone who'd heard the recording, but chances of procuring a copy are long gone if there ever were any.
Honestly, I doubt they would've tried the song again if it didn't work the first time. But who knows - anything's possible. If anyone said a decade ago that a live version of The Fairy Feller's Master Stroke would be officially released in six months, we'd all told them that they were mad.
And they could have just been jamming out on it - not really rehearsing. There were times I remember during the QAL tour that the band was playing Drowse in rehearsals.... |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Aug 26, 2022 14:25:04 GMT
I heard the same story too, and it was the ADATR tour. Many moons ago I spoke with someone who'd heard the recording, but chances of procuring a copy are long gone if there ever were any.
Honestly, I doubt they would've tried the song again if it didn't work the first time. But who knows - anything's possible. If anyone said a decade ago that a live version of The Fairy Feller's Master Stroke would be officially released in six months, we'd all told them that they were mad.
And they could have just been jamming out on it - not really rehearsing. There were times I remember during the QAL tour that the band was playing Drowse in rehearsals.... Yeah, exactly. But Queen were prone to try out songs during soundcheck and run them again and again until being deemed performance worthy (like with White Queen in May '78), and now that we know Long Away was performed live, that's probably what was going on here too. |
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Post by georg on Aug 28, 2022 3:39:15 GMT
I heard the same story too, and it was the ADATR tour. Many moons ago I spoke with someone who'd heard the recording, but chances of procuring a copy are long gone if there ever were any.
Honestly, I doubt they would've tried the song again if it didn't work the first time. But who knows - anything's possible. If anyone said a decade ago that a live version of The Fairy Feller's Master Stroke would be officially released in six months, we'd all told them that they were mad.
And they could have just been jamming out on it - not really rehearsing. There were times I remember during the QAL tour that the band was playing Drowse in rehearsals.... QPR also rehearsed Time to Shine a few times after its only performance in 2008, perhaps thinking they could get it down but never could. |
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Post by bicyclerace on Sept 6, 2022 2:55:01 GMT
My personal opinion is '39 and Long Away are very similar songs, especially compared to any other consecutive songs in the set, which may have been why they dropped LA. '39 would've been the more known song having been in the public for longer and being released on a single (You're My Best Friend) by this point unlike LA. Not quite true, as Long Away was indeed released as a single in North America (with "You and I" on the B side), which means that it is entirely plausible that the band tried to promote it by playing it live. I don't think the single sold a lot, though. |
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Post by NathanH on Sept 6, 2022 6:26:16 GMT
My personal opinion is '39 and Long Away are very similar songs, especially compared to any other consecutive songs in the set, which may have been why they dropped LA. '39 would've been the more known song having been in the public for longer and being released on a single (You're My Best Friend) by this point unlike LA. Not quite true, as Long Away was indeed released as a single in North America (with "You and I" on the B side), which means that it is entirely plausible that the band tried to promote it by playing it live. I don't think the single sold a lot, though. I was deliberately careful with the wording here, Long Away as a single wasn't released as a single until June so I doubt they would promote a single five months prior. I've heard rumours that Long Away was rehearsed once again for the News Of The World tour. This to me seems realistic but other thoughts on this would be good! |
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Post by bicyclerace on Sept 6, 2022 12:18:50 GMT
Not quite true, as Long Away was indeed released as a single in North America (with "You and I" on the B side), which means that it is entirely plausible that the band tried to promote it by playing it live. I don't think the single sold a lot, though. I was deliberately careful with the wording here, Long Away as a single wasn't released as a single until June so I doubt they would promote a single five months prior. I've heard rumours that Long Away was rehearsed once again for the News Of The World tour. This to me seems realistic but other thoughts on this would be good! Didn't know the release date for the Long Away single, thanks for the info. In that case you're right: if the song was played, it was certainly not to promote the single. |
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Post by fireplace on Sept 6, 2022 21:14:04 GMT
I don't wish to fuel any taste battles, but Long Away and You And I, what a magnificent pairing. Reference Pain Is So Close To Pleasure/Don't Lose Your Head for comparison....
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