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Post by Lord Fickle on Aug 29, 2021 9:42:46 GMT
Well, if there's bugger all "Queen" coming out for 2021, their 50th anniversary, other than the re-re-re-re-release (ad infinitum) of Greatest Hits, I guess The Beatles can have my £110 then for their 6 disc "Let It Be" boxset, with 100 page book rammed with info and interviews (not just a smattering of poxy photos), original album mix, remixed stereo, surround sound Bluray mix and 3 CDs of recording sessions. Queen ain't NEVER going to top a Beatles release (unless it's on "LESS value for money"). And it's not as though this stuff is being released after all the Beatles are dead. QPL really have no excuse, as we know they have the material. I'd bet though, a Queen release of this size would be at least double the price of this Beatles set.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Aug 29, 2021 15:07:19 GMT
It started off so well They said we'd have those boxsets soon I immersed myself in your stories and delays How I bought it How you lied Decades of gullibility For nothing but a scam it seems The years belie, fans fed a lie We're "fair game" til we die Save me, save me, - Save Me I can't face your shit alone Save me, save me, - Save Me I'm jaded, and I'm almost done
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Post by Jake12 on Aug 30, 2021 17:26:47 GMT
I really hope they soon decide to sell the catalog..
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Aug 30, 2021 21:40:21 GMT
I really hope they soon decide to sell the catalog.. wouldn't make a scrap of difference. "the catalogue" is the actual content of official releases to date. it certainly would NOT included anything unreleased - either in the archives or in band member's own collections. so even if they sell the catalogue, that constitutes umpteen further re-issues of previous releases and a million more uninspiringly dull re-issues of Greatest Hits. Can't. F**king. Wait.
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Post by chadhanging on Aug 31, 2021 2:22:39 GMT
I Think.. CD 2011 mixes 1. Party 2. Khashoggi's Ship 3. The Miracle 4. I Want it All 5. The Invisible Man 6. Breakthru 7. Rain Must Fall 8. Scandal 9. My Baby Does Me 10. Was It All Worth It Cd 2 2011 mixes 1. Hijack My Heart 2. My Life Has Been Saved 3. Hang on In There 4. Stealin 5. I Want It All (Rocks Version) 6. Chinese Torture 7. The Invisible Man (Demo) 8. The Invisible Man (12' Version) 9. Scandal (12' Version) 10. Breakthru (12' Version) DVD 2002 mixes 1. I Want It All 2. Breakthru 3. The Invisible Man 4. Scandal 5. The Miracle 6. Making Of Videos (Taken from GVH2) 7. Making Cover (Taken from GVH2) 8. Interviews (Taken from GVH2) LP 2011 mixes A Side: 1. Party 2. Khashoggi's Ship 3. The Miracle 4. I Want it All 5. The Invisible Man B Side: 6. Breakthru 7. Rain Must Fall 8. Scandal 9. My Baby Does Me 10. Was It All Worth It Book with Lyrics and no new pictures. JUst like this, and I will not be suprised Why are we calling these mixes?
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Post by highlander on Sept 3, 2021 3:28:02 GMT
How I think it will be:
Queen: The Miracle
01: CD, album (2011 remastered) 02: all 12" versions, b-sides and unreleased songs / demos like "I Guess We're Falling Out" 03: Blu-Ray, restored music videos + making ofs 04: LP, album 05: I Want It All (single) 06: Breakthru (single) 07: The Invisible Man (single) 08: Scandal (single) 09: The Miracle (single)
What the result of Queen Productions will look like:
Queen: The Miracle
01: CD, album (2011 remastered) 02: Bonus CD from 2011 deluxe edition 03: DVD, music videos (cropped) 04: LP, Album (picture disc) 05: I Want It All (picture disc single with 4 heads) 06: Breakthru (green / blue colored vinyl single) 07: The Invisible Man (translucent vinyl single) 08: Scandal (red colored vinyl single) 09: The Miracle (yellow colored vinyl single) + Miracle express ticket and a prologue by Jim "Miami" Beach
ANNNNDDD for Record Store Day 2022 there will be a stricktly limited colored vinyl edition of the album!
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Post by pg on Sept 3, 2021 6:21:25 GMT
I agree that the only way to get to 9 discs is to plump it out with pointless vinyl.
But you missed the Mike Read "Queen for an Hour" interview, which was to promote the Miracle and nicely fills a disc with nothing new at all....
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Post by oreno on Sept 3, 2021 11:16:42 GMT
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Post by antonio on Sept 3, 2021 12:14:55 GMT
This would be the interesting release...No vinyl or ramdom stuff...Just CD/DVD/Bluray items.
Even wasting 1 CD for the regular album, 1 CD for extended versions and B-Sides, 1 DVD, 1 BluRay, 1 CD for the 1989 Interview...This would mean 4 CDs with Outtakes/Demos...
BUT...We DO know that this won´t happen...
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Post by oreno on Sept 3, 2021 12:32:21 GMT
1 "The Miracle" Album 2 The 2011 Bonus EP 3 "I Want It All" CD single 4 "Breakthru" CD single 5 "Scandal" CD single 6 "The Invisible Man" CD single 7 "The Miracle" CD single 8 "Queen for an Hour" from "Queen On Air" 9 The Miracle videos/ The making of "The Miracle" videos from "Greatest Video Hits 2"
A ha ha hahahahaaaaahahahaaahahahaaha
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Post by antonio on Sept 3, 2021 12:37:05 GMT
1 "The Miracle" Album 2 The 2011 Bonus EP 3 "I Want It All" CD single 4 "Breakthru" CD single 5 "Scandal" CD single 6 "The Invisible Man" CD single 7 "The Miracle" CD single 8 "Queen for an Hour" from "Queen On Air" 9 The Miracle videos/ The making of "The Miracle" videos from "Greatest Video Hits 2" A ha ha hahahahaaaaahahahaaahahahaaha
BOOOOOOOM!!!
You got it....Kudos to you
People, here you are the long-waited The Miracle Box Set
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Post by highlander on Sept 3, 2021 14:00:36 GMT
A single disc release on CD and vinyl indicates that the album will be different to the 2011 remastered version.
Are we being heard once for a propper album release with A LOT of bonus content???
What always has annoyed me was the fact that they messed up the colors of the 2011 CD cover. Always thought it would be great to have a decent digital copy of the front cover that isn't scanned from a booklet. I'm going slightly off-topic but does anyone seriously know what happend to the big poster of the front cover from the "The Invisible Man" video? Was this a promotional item at the time or was it done entirely for the video only?
Here is a visualisation how it will look compared to the size of the "News Of The World" box set:
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Post by oreno on Sept 3, 2021 14:43:18 GMT
A single disc release on CD and vinyl indicates that the album will be different to the 2011 remastered version.
Why do you think it will be different? Or do you mean the mastering/packaging? Genuine question, btw. I think it'll be a re-release much like Greatest Hits was. For reference - This is the 2011 single disc version. This is the 2011 LP release.
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Post by highlander on Sept 3, 2021 14:50:10 GMT
A single disc release on CD and vinyl indicates that the album will be different to the 2011 remastered version.
Why do you think it will be different? Or do you mean the mastering/packaging? Genuine question, btw. I think it'll be a re-release much like Greatest Hits was. For reference - This is the 2011 single disc version. This is the 2011 LP release.
There was a re-release because of the slipcase. The only chance of having it on the vinyl edition too.
My guess now is that the box set will be a big digipack with a booklet definitely.
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Post by oreno on Sept 3, 2021 16:25:27 GMT
I still don't understand what you mean. It doesn't matter though.
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Post by highlander on Sept 3, 2021 18:20:06 GMT
I still don't understand what you mean. It doesn't matter though. A single disc release of "The Miracle" on CD:
Maybe the album has been remixed like "Let It Be" by the Beatles which comes out in October this year? Who knows?
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Post by Lord Fickle on Sept 3, 2021 18:54:51 GMT
I still don't understand what you mean. It doesn't matter though. A single disc release of "The Miracle" on CD:
Am I missing something here? What gives any indication that these are Queen releases? One is on Polydor and that's not even their label.
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Post by highlander on Sept 3, 2021 19:42:44 GMT
A single disc release of "The Miracle" on CD:
Am I missing something here? What gives any indication that these are Queen releases? One is on Polydor and that's not even their label. Only the CD has "Polydor" listed as the label. The vinyl one is "UMC - Virgin Domestic" This link clearly says "Queen", "The Miracle" and "Collectors". I doubt it can be misinterpreted as being a completely different release of another band with the same album title.
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Post by pokemaniacjunk on Sept 3, 2021 21:23:37 GMT
Well now that these have appeared I wonder how long it'll take until we get an official announcement.
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Post by highlander on Sept 3, 2021 22:17:46 GMT
Also no room for Toy "Miracle Express train, "Scandal" newspaper, Freddie "Invisible Man" glasses, inflatable 4 headed "Queen" balloons, hooray!
Couldn't have said that any better!
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Post by Lord Fickle on Sept 4, 2021 0:15:00 GMT
Am I missing something here? What gives any indication that these are Queen releases? One is on Polydor and that's not even their label. Only the CD has "Polydor" listed as the label. The vinyl one is "UMC - Virgin Domestic" This link clearly says "Queen", "The Miracle" and "Collectors". I doubt it can be misinterpreted as being a completely different release of another band with the same album title.
OK, my bad, I didn't actually look at the original link. I still can't help but be sceptical. I mean, what the hell are they going to put on nine discs? I'll be pissed off if they include all the separate CD Singles on a disc each, as they could all fit on one CD, as could all the demos we know about, and I doubt we'll get them anyway. There's obviously no live stuff, so that could conceivably be one disc for the album, one disc for the singles, one disc for the demos (possibly), and one DVD or Blu-ray for the videos. Even if they did a DVD and a Blu-ray that would still only be five discs. I guess there could be a remix of the album as well, but I'll be very surprised to see that. I'm guessing they could possibly be looking at a November release slot to capture the Christmas market, but if that's the case then I'm surprised Brian hasn't mentioned it at all yet in any of his Insta posts or videos.
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Post by leroybrown on Sept 4, 2021 0:43:43 GMT
Only the CD has "Polydor" listed as the label. The vinyl one is "UMC - Virgin Domestic" This link clearly says "Queen", "The Miracle" and "Collectors". I doubt it can be misinterpreted as being a completely different release of another band with the same album title.
OK, my bad, I didn't actually look at the original link. I still can't help but be sceptical. I mean, what the hell are they going to put on nine discs? I'll be pissed off if they include all the separate CD Singles on a disc each, as they could all fit on one CD, as could all the demos we know about, and I doubt we'll get them anyway. There's obviously no live stuff, so that could conceivably be one disc for the album, one disc for the singles, one disc for the demos (possibly), and one DVD or Blu-ray for the videos. Even if they did a DVD and a Blu-ray that would still only be five discs. I guess there could be a remix of the album as well, but I'll be very surprised to see that. I'm guessing they could possibly be looking at a November release slot to capture the Christmas market, but if that's the case then I'm surprised Brian hasn't mentioned it at all yet in any of his Insta posts or videos. I do recall (possibly written in the fanclub magazine) that they considered a double disc extended version of the album back when originally released the Miracle.
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Post by highlander on Sept 4, 2021 4:22:46 GMT
Only the CD has "Polydor" listed as the label. The vinyl one is "UMC - Virgin Domestic" This link clearly says "Queen", "The Miracle" and "Collectors". I doubt it can be misinterpreted as being a completely different release of another band with the same album title.
OK, my bad, I didn't actually look at the original link. I still can't help but be sceptical. I mean, what the hell are they going to put on nine discs? I'll be pissed off if they include all the separate CD Singles on a disc each, as they could all fit on one CD, as could all the demos we know about, and I doubt we'll get them anyway. There's obviously no live stuff, so that could conceivably be one disc for the album, one disc for the singles, one disc for the demos (possibly), and one DVD or Blu-ray for the videos. Even if they did a DVD and a Blu-ray that would still only be five discs. I guess there could be a remix of the album as well, but I'll be very surprised to see that. I'm guessing they could possibly be looking at a November release slot to capture the Christmas market, but if that's the case then I'm surprised Brian hasn't mentioned it at all yet in any of his Insta posts or videos.
Don't worry it's very easy to miss as it's only in the link and not on the product site. My expectations are usually very low but CD singles in a box set in 2021? That would be a horrendous waste of space. One key reason to collect CD singles is to have the non-album tracks or extended versions. All them tracks would fit on one disc easily. 5 CD singles with a depth of 0,7 cm per case would be 3,5 cm leaving 1,5 cm what could be a digipack but without any box around it hopefully...
My guess is that it will be either a CD box set like "On Air" or a pretty fat digipack.
What could a Blu-Ray / DVD feature?
Here another guess from me:
All music videos restored and uncropped with 5.1 sound I Want It All
Breakthru
Breakthru (GH 2 version, uncropped) The Invisible Man The Invisible Man (shadow version)
Scandal The Miracle
The Miracle (Kids only version) + more alternate versions if there are any
Making Of: I Want It All (if even created) Making Of: Breakthru Making Of: The Invisible Man (if even created) Making Of: Scandal Making Of: The Miracle (there were rumours about new footage of Freddie being interviewed on the set) Making Of: "The Miracle" album cover + the unreleased 1989 documentary "Was It All Worth It" Oh no... if they even dare to bring out a VHS-rip of "Rare Live" instead of the videos... Always better to keep expectations low!
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Post by deathtoming on Sept 4, 2021 4:25:47 GMT
Those dimensions are interesting. For reference, the dimensions of... Queen 40th Volume #2 (10 CDs in five plastic double-CD cases, booklets, and a poster): 12.8 x 14.81 x 5.69 cm; 621.99 GramsQueen On Air 6-CD set (6 CDs in cardboard sleeves and a booklet) 13.49 x 13.31 x 3.1 cm; 278.11 GramsQueen Singles Collection #1 (13 CDs in cardboard sleeves) 12.45 x 14.22 x 1.02 cm; 417.59 GramsSo, The Miracle 9-disc box is very close in size to the 10-CD set, but 200 grams heavier, even though it's one less CD and likely without all those plastic cases and booklets. And, we can see how light the sets with cardboard sleeves can be. So where's the extra weight coming from? An extra-fancy box? It's about the same weight as the 8-CD Crown Jewels box, but that's a fair bit bigger.
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Post by oreno on Sept 4, 2021 9:38:29 GMT
Good detective work! I should point out the single LP/ CD editions are just speculation from clicking through formats of that listing. I think the 9 disc and weight/proportions are accurate however as they are listed as such on different territories. But it's not impossible, looking at the different formats/listings, that there could also be a 2CD version, a vinyl LP (presumably exclusive/coloured?) and possibly a cassette too. Though this might be because details are still TBC. www.amazon.com.mx/Miracle-CollectorS-Queen/dp/B08C92JB5Hwww.amazon.es/Miracle-CollectorS-Queen/dp/B08C92JB5HSpeculate away!
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Post by Lord Fickle on Sept 4, 2021 10:02:00 GMT
All this for a mediocre album. 🙄 I know they'd have less studio material to work with, but why can't they do something like this for ADATR or QII and include some of the live stuff we know they have?
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Post by cmi on Sept 4, 2021 11:28:37 GMT
The Miracle is an excellent fresh album with 5 singles out of 10 tracks and 1 epic. Yes, it has probably the worst opening pair, but it doesn't mean the album is weak.
The album should be even better with TMLWKY in the original place (+1 more single). I'm glad the 'The Miracle' deluxe box is the next release. Hope it would worth it.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Sept 4, 2021 12:14:12 GMT
It's an old and much laboured point of view, but I think it's the sound of the album that makes it mediocre for me. If more of the tracks had the production values of Was It All Worth It, it would have been a much better album, in my opinion.
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Post by oreno on Sept 4, 2021 16:00:19 GMT
All this for a mediocre album. 🙄 I know they'd have less studio material to work with, but why can't they do something like this for ADATR or QII and include some of the live stuff we know they have? Queen are never, ever going to re-release an album with an entire contemporary live concert as a 'bonus disc'. I mean, I'd love to eat my words, but based on the last 30 years, forget it. And I agree it is a mediocre album, but must presume/hope that it is the volume and quality of bonus material available that makes this the first deluxe after NOTW worth compiling/releasing. Anyway I think QPL leaked the Amazon links because the Miracle lyric re-writes in this thread were getting a bit too close to the bone..
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Sept 4, 2021 16:08:04 GMT
Anyway I think QPL leaked the Amazon links because the Miracle lyric re-writes in this thread were getting a bit too close to the bone.. i doubt very much that we're on QPL's radar - and even in the strange instance that we were...they really couldn't give a f**k what we - or any other fans think. The last 30 years has been proof of that. as for the Amazon links: these count for nothing until they actually become reality. lots of stuff appears on amazon that never sees the light of day.
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