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Post by pg on Aug 2, 2023 14:29:12 GMT
He has opportunity to release live set with South America 1992 shows, Los Angeles and Barcelona 1993 shows, Paris and VH1 acoustic concerts, Royal Albert Hall 1998 show and probably some others we don't know about... A seven show box set, at least three of which are video? Breath is not being held....
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Post by funinspace81 on Aug 2, 2023 17:01:33 GMT
I think that the next one is going to be Brixton. In fact, he was tracing either Cathy Porter or Shelly Preston on IG (cannot remember which one but her son eventually contacted Brian). He wanted to gather with the surviving members of the 1993 line-up, probably also for liner notes contributions purposes.
IMHO it will most likely include the full (expanded) Brixton audio & DVD or upscaled BluRay, including "God (The Dream Is Over)", along with the full Los Angeles gig as a bonus audio disc. If we are lucky enough, we might get some reharsal / soundcheck stuff or some "rare" performance from that tour, such as "I Want To Hold Your Hand", "Hard Business", "Big Spender", "Teo Torriatte" or "Rollin' Over".
I don't see any Rio 1992 footage coming due to its DoRo involvement (same with the Barcelona gig involving possible spanish TV copyright issues), neither any 1998 stuff, because it's unrelated to Brixton plus I don't think that Brian wants to revisit the AW Tour, due to the sad circumstances that it took place under.
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Post by agkelly on Aug 3, 2023 0:03:52 GMT
...neither any 1998 stuff, because it's unrelated to Brixton plus I don't think that Brian wants to revisit the AW Tour, due to the sad circumstances that it took place under. The sad circumstances being Cozy's passing, or something else?
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Post by funinspace81 on Aug 3, 2023 0:39:49 GMT
...neither any 1998 stuff, because it's unrelated to Brixton plus I don't think that Brian wants to revisit the AW Tour, due to the sad circumstances that it took place under. The sad circumstances being Cozy's passing, or something else? Yes, that's exactly what I meant.
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Post by feller on Aug 3, 2023 9:50:08 GMT
Guest appearances would be a logistical nightmare getting permission, plus there isn't the audience PLUS there are no songwriting royalties to be had for the vast majority of it. You'd be surprised.... Brian is a canny old bird and he made sure he retained permission to use the tracks himself at a future date as part of the agreements. I forget where he said it, but Brian did mention that he never charged people for guest appearances, but insisted on retaining the rights to later release them for himself.
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Post by pg on Aug 3, 2023 12:37:43 GMT
That's hugely prescient if he started doing that in the late '80s. If he did it in the mid '70s that would be insanely forward looking, and in marked contrast to other QPL business / contractual decisions in the same period.
My memory is that he said he would do the sessions for standard session fees, but wanted to be credited. Holly Johnson / Living In A Box didn't credit him, and that probably helped him losing interest.
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Post by Brian's Wig on Aug 3, 2023 13:53:09 GMT
Are you saying you've played Talking Of Love MORE than once??? Come on. We ALL know how much you're looking forward to my Ai Instrumentals of that album ;-)
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Post by Raf on Aug 3, 2023 14:22:02 GMT
That's hugely prescient if he started doing that in the late '80s. If he did it in the mid '70s that would be insanely forward looking, and in marked contrast to other QPL business / contractual decisions in the same period. Well, he was the one who since the early 70s taped Queen concerts and collected the tapes. Even if he wasn't thinking of releasing them (and I assume at least the earlier ones wouldn't even have enough quality for that), he surely seems to be the archive-driven mind of the group.
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Post by pg on Aug 3, 2023 19:13:08 GMT
That's just his collectors nature.
(Plus, there's still no evidence he's got 700 C90s lying around)
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Post by Raf on Aug 3, 2023 21:09:12 GMT
That's just his collectors nature. (Plus, there's still no evidence he's got 700 C90s lying around) I'm not sure if I'm more terrified considering that maybe he doesn't or that maybe he still does! Nowadays he surely has the resources (brains + money + spare time) to keep such a collection, but in the early 70s I suppose most people wouldn't put much of a thought into what efforts should be made to ensure those would remain in good conditions for 50+ years. However, if at some point he'd decided to go through the trouble of digitizing them all (even if in an amateur-ish fashion, by simply plugging his cassette player into his laptop), I'm pretty sure he would've blogged about it at some point. I wonder how much of Queen's history might've rotted away on his basement over the years (as it probably does on many amateur bootleggers' basements all around the world).
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Post by eiricd on Aug 4, 2023 16:58:42 GMT
Brixton seems like a no-brainer. A remastered version of SYBG turned up on his youtube channel years ago now. I'm guessing most of the work on that is already done.
As far as 1993; the 92 south america thing would be cool to have in the best possible quality. Nowhere near as good as Brixton imo, and Brian / band still finding their feet. The Barcelona gig? perhaps it's long gone from the tv channel's archives - that wouldn't be unusual. I'm guessing, regardless of what they may or may not have, that they DON*T have the multitracks. Purely speculating - but a master copy of the stereo feed that went out on the night is most likely the best possible outcome. (for any Rainbow fans - see the Rockpalast 1995 dvd.........)
about 1993 audio - this was before digital recording right? so any gigs captured on tape was quite an undertaking? The Beacon 1993 is available in pristine quality already....do we know of any other recordings? perhaps it's not too far fetched to think they recorded at least one more gig, as a back up to Brixton in case of any issues.....
1998:
the Vh1 semi acoustic should be put out. As should the audio of the Paris gig.
very recently, Brian namecheked his Albert Hall 1998 gig, as a concert which should have been great, but he suffered from voice problems. Is that memory still so fresh in his mind, or has he re-visited the DoRo film (which they claimed they couldn't locate. I mentioned this for Rudi online, and he just said thanks for the message. I have a VERY hard time believing that a full on production from 1998 is LOST in someone archives. Apparently it was shot in 3D as well...........)
Linz was supposed to be filmed on the 98 tour - but apparently it was scrapped for Albert Hall. There are a few pro shot songs from Offenbach - but that's a tv station, and they probably wouldn't have any more. Now - St.Petersburg does have some pro shots floating around - with songs from both the start, the middle, and the end of the concert. So there may be a complete video there. Moscow; on the audience shot bootleg you can certainly see big screens on the side of the stage, but I'm guessing that's a very sparse production. If they have it in their archives is of course another question........
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Post by ted on Aug 5, 2023 0:15:27 GMT
eiricd wrote: about 1993 audio - this was before digital recording right?
I've read that the first album to be digitally recorded was made in 1980.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Aug 5, 2023 8:19:15 GMT
eiricd wrote: about 1993 audio - this was before digital recording right?I've read that the first album to be digitally recorded was made in 1980. Ted Maybe eiricd was referring to live recordings? One of the first digital studio recordings was Moving Pictures by Rush, and that came out in 1981.
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Post by ted on Aug 5, 2023 13:55:10 GMT
eiricd wrote: about 1993 audio - this was before digital recording right?I've read that the first album to be digitally recorded was made in 1980. Ted Maybe eiricd was referring to live recordings? One of the first digital studio recordings was Moving Pictures by Rush, and that came out in 1981. You may be right, LF. Although I've owned the album since it was released, I wasn't aware that MP was a digital recording, though I'm not surprised that it is. The album was recorded in late 1980 but I read that the first digitally recorded album was Tender Loving Abuse by guitarist Rick Dufay, who went on to replace Brad Whitford in Aerosmith from 1981-'84.
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Post by eiricd on Aug 5, 2023 17:46:56 GMT
eiricd wrote: about 1993 audio - this was before digital recording right?I've read that the first album to be digitally recorded was made in 1980. Ted Maybe eiricd was referring to live recordings? One of the first digital studio recordings was Moving Pictures by Rush, and that came out in 1981. I was thinking about live recordings, yes.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Aug 5, 2023 23:04:43 GMT
Maybe eiricd was referring to live recordings? One of the first digital studio recordings was Moving Pictures by Rush, and that came out in 1981. You may be right, LF. Although I've owned the album since it was released, I wasn't aware that MP was a digital recording, though I'm not surprised that it is. The album was recorded in late 1980 but I read that the first digitally recorded album was Tender Loving Abuse by guitarist Rick Dufay, who went on to replace Brad Whitford in Aerosmith from 1981-'84.
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"Moving Pictures was recorded at Le Studio in Morin-Heights, Quebec in October and November 1980. The studio was fitted out with a digital 48-track machine, which was unfamiliar to the band and necessitated them spending time familiarising with the equipment. The album was [Terry] Brown's first digitally-produced album."en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_Pictures_(Rush_album)
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Post by vince73 on Aug 6, 2023 0:23:21 GMT
The next one we´ll be surely Furia, with Pinnochio tracks as bonus. I don´t think Yoko Ono will accept God to be released with different lyrics in a Brixton reissue. Remember the missing printed lyrics of Rain in the Freddie Solo Collection.
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Post by merplot on Aug 6, 2023 0:26:24 GMT
That's just his collectors nature. (Plus, there's still no evidence he's got 700 C90s lying around) I'm not sure if I'm more terrified considering that maybe he doesn't or that maybe he still does! Nowadays he surely has the resources (brains + money + spare time) to keep such a collection, but in the early 70s I suppose most people wouldn't put much of a thought into what efforts should be made to ensure those would remain in good conditions for 50+ years. However, if at some point he'd decided to go through the trouble of digitizing them all (even if in an amateur-ish fashion, by simply plugging his cassette player into his laptop), I'm pretty sure he would've blogged about it at some point. I wonder how much of Queen's history might've rotted away on his basement over the years (as it probably does on many amateur bootleggers' basements all around the world). Brian strikes me as either an "everything's-color-coded-and-climate-controlled" kind of collector, or a "stuff's-in-a-fleabitten-box-in-the-garage" kind of collector, and I cant decide which is more likely. I would hope he would care enough to store things like that properly.
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Post by pg on Aug 6, 2023 6:03:07 GMT
I can't remember the source, but I believe Brian has been established as a "store the record and the sleeve separately" type who still has his Buddy Holly and Connie Francis singles from the late '50s in pristine condition.
The Stormtroopers in Stilettos exhibition had plenty of evidence that this is the case, as well...
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Post by jeroeng on Aug 6, 2023 9:09:42 GMT
2023 = 40 years Star Fleet (1983) 2024 = 30 years Brixton (1994) 2025 = 25 years Furia (2000)
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Post by dragonkiller on Aug 6, 2023 11:26:58 GMT
2023 = 40 years Star Fleet (1983) 2024 = 30 years Brixton (1994) 2025 = 25 years Furia (2000) 2023 = 35 Years Talking of Love (1988) Just thought that this may be added🤣
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Post by eiricd on Aug 6, 2023 16:00:54 GMT
I'd be surprised if Furia got its own release. As a part of a "Brian does films" or something, but a whole box set? Can't be much of interest lurking in the archives there, done only for that film
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Post by funinspace81 on Aug 6, 2023 16:10:29 GMT
I'd be surprised if Furia got its own release. As a part of a "Brian does films" or something, but a whole box set? Can't be much of interest lurking in the archives there, done only for that film 'Furia' could probably end in a more general release involving one-off tracks (not actual collaborations), that might include "Pinocchio", "Macbeth", "Teasin' Around", "The Stretch", "Fun At The Funeral Parlour", "The Fire Within", "Spider Man", "Rise Of The Robots", "GSTQ" (Jubilee 2002) and "New Horizons". But then again, I don't see a massive target for this besides the hardcore fans and collectors.
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Post by mikusguitarius on Aug 7, 2023 12:58:19 GMT
+1 for a Brixton box set please!
Upscale to HD - keeping the ‘video’ look of Rainbow 74, Hammy 75 etc - and still in 4:3. 5.1 remix (but also keeping original stereo mix) Reinsert The Dream Is Over (and instrumental jam when Red Special/rig stopped working) FULL AUDIO over 2 CDs (especially if video will still be cut) Sound check footage?? Brian-cam perhaps??
And of course bonus stuff…. Barcelona, South American footage (although with the late Michael Caswell who I don’t think proved popular and was fired??)
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Post by leighburne on Sept 26, 2023 9:24:37 GMT
Brixton has to be the obvious choice for the next box set. As eiricd pointed out, Brian's YouTube channel proves at least some remastering work has already been done on it, and I can't see them going to that effort just for a couple of clips on YouTube, so you've got to imagine they have plans for it. I'd be fairly surprised if it isn't the next one we get.
Also I'm unironically gonna add another vote in favour of Brian reissuing Talking of Love as part of this. Whatever anyone may think of the quality, beyond his bona fide solo releases and the Kerry Ellis albums it's probably the biggest thing he's done (in terms of the scale of his contribution, not it's success!) and not only is it currently out-of-print it's never even been on CD.
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Post by dragonkiller on Sept 26, 2023 11:55:27 GMT
Brixton has to be the obvious choice for the next box set. As eiricd pointed out, Brian's YouTube channel proves at least some remastering work has already been done on it, and I can't see them going to that effort just for a couple of clips on YouTube, so you've got to imagine they have plans for it. I'd be fairly surprised if it isn't the next one we get. Also I'm unironically gonna add another vote in favour of Brian reissuing Talking of Love as part of this. Whatever anyone may think of the quality, beyond his bona fide solo releases and the Kerry Ellis albums it's probably the biggest thing he's done (in terms of the scale of his contribution, not it's success!) and not only is it currently out-of-print it's never even been on CD. He also said in a interview (not sure which one could be RC) around the time of release of Talking of Love it was some of his best work.
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Post by leighburne on Sept 26, 2023 14:16:10 GMT
He also said in a interview (not sure which one could be RC) around the time of release of Talking of Love it was some of his best work. I wouldn't go that far myself His guitar solo at the end of "I Dream of Christmas" is genuinely one of my favourites by him though.
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Post by pg on Sept 26, 2023 19:31:06 GMT
Brian's YouTube channel proves at least some remastering work has already been done on it, and I can't see them going to that effort just for a couple of clips on YouTube, so you've got to imagine they have plans for it. Wasn't Bo Rhap remastered to HD in celebration of its billionth stream or something? No sign of that being leveraged to a "proper" release...
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Post by dragonkiller on Sept 27, 2023 13:44:00 GMT
I wonder if Sir Bri did release Talking of Love on the gold series, if it sells better than previous releases.
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Post by chowder on Sept 27, 2023 18:43:20 GMT
I'd be surprised if Furia got its own release. As a part of a "Brian does films" or something, but a whole box set? Can't be much of interest lurking in the archives there, done only for that film 'Furia' could probably end in a more general release involving one-off tracks (not actual collaborations), that might include "Pinocchio", "Macbeth", "Teasin' Around", "The Stretch", "Fun At The Funeral Parlour", "The Fire Within", "Spider Man", "Rise Of The Robots", "GSTQ" (Jubilee 2002) and "New Horizons". But then again, I don't see a massive target for this besides the hardcore fans and collectors. Plus maybe add the unreleased soundtrack for a film which he did 15+ years ago. I forgot most details, but you could get a copy through Kickstarter (I think). It ultimately never materialised.
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