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Post by Lord Fickle on Mar 15, 2024 17:53:37 GMT
Nothing really to see here, but: Queen announce deluxe edition, multi-format releases of Queen Rock MontrealFollowing the IMAX Event Cinema release of Queen Rock Montreal earlier this year, Queen have announced an array of deluxe edition releases on various formats, with double Blu-ray, double 4K Ultra High Definition, double CD and triple vinyl editions all arriving on May 10. The era-defining concert, which Brian May says is the band in “live and dangerous” form, captures Queen at their exhilarating peak. www.loudersound.com/news/queen-announce-deluxe-edition-releases-of-queen-rock-montreal
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Post by queenfan23 on Mar 15, 2024 20:45:01 GMT
It doesn't seem to be possible to buy the standard blu ray and 4k blu ray of this concert in one package ?
I prefer standard blu ray over 4k blu ray because it has a brighter picture.
But 4k blu ray has better image quality over all even on 1080p screens because it uses better compression.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Mar 15, 2024 21:19:27 GMT
It's also strikes me that they probably could have fitted the Montreal concert and the Live Aid stuff on one disc. How long is the rehearsal footage for Live Aid? The actual show was only 22 minutes so I'm betting that the whole disc isn't much longer than 45 minutes.
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Post by boffy on Mar 15, 2024 21:34:12 GMT
It doesn't seem to be possible to buy the standard blu ray and 4k blu ray of this concert in one package ? I prefer standard blu ray over 4k blu ray because it has a brighter picture. But 4k blu ray has better image quality over all even on 1080p screens because it uses better compression. Could the difference in brightness be related to the HDR which is often on UHD Blu-rays? If so, this one says it has the option of watching with and without HDR.
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Post by boffy on Mar 15, 2024 21:40:33 GMT
It's also strikes me that they probably could have fitted the Montreal concert and the Live Aid stuff on one disc. How long is the rehearsal footage for Live Aid? The actual show was only 22 minutes so I'm betting that the whole disc isn't much longer than 45 minutes. They have the whole concert on both discs, one in OAR, the other cropped to 16:9. On the UHD, they presumably have it twice over on each disc, once in HDR and once in SDR. That is, unless it’s possible to encode HDR in such a way that you can turn it on or off, analogous to how DTS-HD has a vanilla DTS core stream for compatibility. Assuming they do have it twice on each UHD disc, I guess that's why they have one extra on disc 1, the other on disc 2. And therefore maybe they've done the standard Blu the same way for simplicity’s sake?
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Post by thesirhc on Mar 15, 2024 22:37:13 GMT
Do we know if the content/mix of the CD and/or LP will be any different from the 2007 version? I noticed a slight difference in the mix during the IMAX showing. Granted, the theater is not my living room (or headphones) so I'm interested to hear the difference when compared on comparable equipment.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Mar 15, 2024 22:41:12 GMT
It's also strikes me that they probably could have fitted the Montreal concert and the Live Aid stuff on one disc. How long is the rehearsal footage for Live Aid? The actual show was only 22 minutes so I'm betting that the whole disc isn't much longer than 45 minutes. They have the whole concert on both discs, one in OAR, the other cropped to 16:9. On the UHD, they presumably have it twice over on each disc, once in HDR and once in SDR. That is, unless it’s possible to encode HDR in such a way that you can turn it on or off, analogous to how DTS-HD has a vanilla DTS core stream for compatibility. Assuming they do have it twice on each UHD disc, I guess that's why they have one extra on disc 1, the other on disc 2. And therefore maybe they've done the standard Blu the same way for simplicity’s sake? Fair enough. I hadn't considered the doubling up with the different aspect ratios.
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Post by queenfan23 on Mar 16, 2024 18:32:39 GMT
It doesn't seem to be possible to buy the standard blu ray and 4k blu ray of this concert in one package ? I prefer standard blu ray over 4k blu ray because it has a brighter picture. But 4k blu ray has better image quality over all even on 1080p screens because it uses better compression. Could the difference in brightness be related to the HDR which is often on UHD Blu-rays? If so, this one says it has the option of watching with and without HDR.
Yes the HDR can give you a very dark image compared to the standard blu ray.
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Post by Dry Paint Dealer Undr on Mar 16, 2024 19:10:59 GMT
It's also strikes me that they probably could have fitted the Montreal concert and the Live Aid stuff on one disc. How long is the rehearsal footage for Live Aid? The actual show was only 22 minutes so I'm betting that the whole disc isn't much longer than 45 minutes. They have the whole concert on both discs, one in OAR, the other cropped to 16:9. On the UHD, they presumably have it twice over on each disc, once in HDR and once in SDR. That is, unless it’s possible to encode HDR in such a way that you can turn it on or off, analogous to how DTS-HD has a vanilla DTS core stream for compatibility. Assuming they do have it twice on each UHD disc, I guess that's why they have one extra on disc 1, the other on disc 2. And therefore maybe they've done the standard Blu the same way for simplicity’s sake? Afaik it’s possible for the player to tonemap HDR into SDR for viewing on non-hdr displays
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Post by manymilesaway on Mar 17, 2024 8:39:29 GMT
I'm really not liking the route Queen's been going...
Upscaled The Miracle music videos, upscaled Montreal footage, and now upscaled Live Aid? I don't mind AI upscaling as long as the originals are accessible, but what is this going to mean in the future for uncirculating footage? 4K upscales of tape footage look TERRIBLE, like most of The Miracle MVs.
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Post by imthewalrus79 on Mar 17, 2024 9:59:08 GMT
I'm really not liking the route Queen's been going... Upscaled The Miracle music videos, upscaled Montreal footage, and now upscaled Live Aid? I don't mind AI upscaling as long as the originals are accessible, but what is this going to mean in the future for uncirculating footage? 4K upscales of tape footage look TERRIBLE, like most of The Miracle MVs. Rock Montreal won't be an upscale, as it was filmed on 35mm film. So, the 4K should bring out even more detail than the Blu Ray. As for Live Aid, I thought the upscale looked good on the Blu Ray. As for the Miracle videos, I loved the look of "I Want It All," which I understand was rescanned from the original film elements. The other three, I'll admit, were hit and miss. But that can be down to a number of factors. But I'd say whoever did the HD upscales for "Bohemian Rhapsody" and "A Kind of Magic" should be who handles any future upscales for the band.
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Post by boffy on Mar 18, 2024 12:55:08 GMT
Cheapest prices I've seen so far are on Rarewaves: UHD for £25 www.rarewaves.com/products/0602458843101-queen-rock-montrealStandard Blu-ray for £19 www.rarewaves.com/products/0602458843033-queen-rock-montreal
EDIT: I’ve just noticed something odd on QueenOnline and other stores.
The new video releases have different typography from the previous version, with the band's name in its usual serif logo, and the title in a Futura-looking geometric sans-serif font. The background is also a bit darker. This makes sense; updated artwork to distinguish this from the previous release.
However, the new versions of the audio releases still use the 2007 typography with a chunky Impact-style sans-serif font for the band name and title. This was also on the 2007 video releases.
I wonder if this indicates that the CD and LP are indeed completely unchanged from last time?
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Post by Lord Fickle on Mar 18, 2024 13:46:37 GMT
Cheapest prices I've seen so far are on Rarewaves: UHD for £25 www.rarewaves.com/products/0602458843101-queen-rock-montrealStandard Blu-ray for £19 www.rarewaves.com/products/0602458843033-queen-rock-montreal
EDIT: I’ve just noticed something odd on QueenOnline and other stores.
The new video releases have different typography from the previous version, with the band's name in its usual serif logo, and the title in a Futura-looking geometric sans-serif font. The background is also a bit darker. This makes sense; updated artwork to distinguish this from the previous release.
However, the new versions of the audio releases still use the 2007 typography with a chunky Impact-style sans-serif font for the band name and title. This was also on the 2007 video releases.
I wonder if this indicates that the CD and LP are indeed completely unchanged from last time? Rarewaves are a good shout. I ordered from the QOL store as it was the same price with shipping as from Amazon, but with Rarewaves you get free shipping.
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Post by Maxi Dries on Mar 18, 2024 15:01:42 GMT
Cheapest prices I've seen so far are on Rarewaves: UHD for £25 www.rarewaves.com/products/0602458843101-queen-rock-montrealStandard Blu-ray for £19 www.rarewaves.com/products/0602458843033-queen-rock-montreal
EDIT: I’ve just noticed something odd on QueenOnline and other stores.
The new video releases have different typography from the previous version, with the band's name in its usual serif logo, and the title in a Futura-looking geometric sans-serif font. The background is also a bit darker. This makes sense; updated artwork to distinguish this from the previous release.
However, the new versions of the audio releases still use the 2007 typography with a chunky Impact-style sans-serif font for the band name and title. This was also on the 2007 video releases.
I wonder if this indicates that the CD and LP are indeed completely unchanged from last time? Very nice price, indeed. Just for consideration, at least in the picture, the 4k BRD is 'Region code B' (Europe, Africa, Middle East, Australia, and New Zealand).
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Post by Lord Fickle on Mar 18, 2024 15:23:33 GMT
Cheapest prices I've seen so far are on Rarewaves: UHD for £25 www.rarewaves.com/products/0602458843101-queen-rock-montrealStandard Blu-ray for £19 www.rarewaves.com/products/0602458843033-queen-rock-montreal
EDIT: I’ve just noticed something odd on QueenOnline and other stores.
The new video releases have different typography from the previous version, with the band's name in its usual serif logo, and the title in a Futura-looking geometric sans-serif font. The background is also a bit darker. This makes sense; updated artwork to distinguish this from the previous release.
However, the new versions of the audio releases still use the 2007 typography with a chunky Impact-style sans-serif font for the band name and title. This was also on the 2007 video releases.
I wonder if this indicates that the CD and LP are indeed completely unchanged from last time? Very nice price, indeed. Just for consideration, at least in the picture, the 4k BRD is 'Region code B' (Europe, Africa, Middle East, Australia, and New Zealand). I was under the impression that 4K discs are not region coded. I have a couple of US import 4K discs, and they play fine on my UK machine.
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Post by boffy on Mar 18, 2024 17:08:28 GMT
Very nice price, indeed. Just for consideration, at least in the picture, the 4k BRD is 'Region code B' (Europe, Africa, Middle East, Australia, and New Zealand). I was under the impression that 4K discs are not region coded. I have a couple of US import 4K discs, and they play fine on my UK machine. LF, you’re right that the UHD Blu specifications have no region-coding, though I've read that some boutique labels have used the fact that a Blu-ray menu is effectively a computer program to implement their own region locks in software. FWIW, HMV’s and Rarewaves’ listings say region B for both Blus. WowHD’s just have their standard disclaimer that “Unless otherwise stated, all BLU-RAY are REGION A”. Amazon’s and most importantly QOL’s listings don’t mention region coding at all. Also, IIRC all of QPL’s video releases for over a decade have been region-free with one release sold worldwide. That’s how we’ve ended up with annoyances like 25p/50Hz material being converted to 24p/60Hz, even in Europe. I’d therefore be surprised if either turned out to be region-coded. However, I don’t really have a dog in this race as I’m only going to rip it and put it on my home server to watch.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Mar 18, 2024 17:53:16 GMT
Got to say, the QOL store is a bit of a PITA now. Is it just me or is there no way to register a login password, so as to avoid the six-digit email verification each time?
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Post by queenfan23 on Mar 19, 2024 0:19:45 GMT
I wonder if the 4k blu ray version has Dolby Atmos ?
Edit - I just checked it does have Dolby Atmos.
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Post by pg on Mar 19, 2024 7:36:16 GMT
FWIW, HMV’s and Rarewaves’ listings say region B for both Blus. WowHD’s just have their standard disclaimer that “Unless otherwise stated, all BLU-RAY are REGION A”. Amazon’s and most importantly QOL’s listings don’t mention region coding at all. QOL not exactly noted for their thoroughness.... Still no mention of actual aspect ratios, for example
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Post by pg on Mar 19, 2024 13:09:11 GMT
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Post by boffy on Mar 19, 2024 13:32:51 GMT
If I’m reading that correctly, it’s anamorphically squeezed horizontally and vertically. Isn’t that just a weird way of saying the image is reduced down to fit onto the film, like in almost every photographic process? Does this make more sense to anyone more knowledgeable than me, or is it just marketing bumph?
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Post by pg on Mar 19, 2024 13:36:25 GMT
"unsqueeze the blowup" sounds like snake oil, to be honest...
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Post by Lord Fickle on Mar 19, 2024 17:03:08 GMT
"unsqueeze the blowup" sounds like snake oil, to be honest... I can think of other connotations... 😄
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Post by pg on Mar 19, 2024 20:16:09 GMT
"unsqueeze the blowup" sounds like snake oil, to be honest... I can think of other connotations... 😄 Lady Fickle will hear of your smuttiness...
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Post by boffy on Mar 20, 2024 15:09:32 GMT
That same article continues: Assuming this is anywhere near accurate, and that the QOL store is correct that it was scanned from the “35mm original negative”, could MobileVision process be something like VistaVision?
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Post by boffy on Mar 28, 2024 18:09:19 GMT
Rarewaves have 10% off any order over £20 this Easter, which takes the 4K down to £22.26
Code: RWEASTER10
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Post by funinspace81 on Mar 28, 2024 19:37:36 GMT
It's strange that both the CD and Vinyl are already avaialble on Amazon (US) but the BR and 4K are not.
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Post by saintjiub on Mar 28, 2024 19:43:39 GMT
It's strange that both the CD and Vinyl are already availalble on Amazon (US) but the BR and 4K are not. I had to buy some little stuff for work, but it was not enough to put me over the Amazon US $35 dollar free shipping threshold, so I rationalized buying the 2 CD set even though I have previously bought Montreal countless times.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Mar 28, 2024 19:53:45 GMT
Rarewaves have 10% off any order over £20 this Easter, which takes the 4K down to £22.26 Code: RWEASTER10 Knew I should have waited! 😖
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Post by dragonkiller on Mar 29, 2024 12:54:43 GMT
Rarewaves have 10% off any order over £20 this Easter, which takes the 4K down to £22.26 Code: RWEASTER10 Knew I should have waited! 😖 Join the club!
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