Oooof...so the Japanese tour isn't close to being a sell-out either?

Like you’re US tour posts, this doesn’t seem to be totally accurate.

I want them to have a successful, sold-out tour.  If they are top-tier I don't know why they can't sell out their shows in the U.S. or Japan.

Not every tour with Freddie sold out. Apart from UK shows I don’t think any tour with Paul Rodgers sold out.

They certainly sell enough tickets for promoters around the world to book them into large arena’s or even bigger venues. Remember it’s the promoter who risks their money when putting a tour together, if a band weren’t doing the business necessary to fill those venues they wouldn’t be rebooked at that level.

any soft sellers will be papered, is that the term? extremely cheap tickets close to show day which usually equals lots more people in the building

this is a well known fact, so I don't know why it can't be mentioned in this thread.

seriously? unless you are the promoter of the gig mentioned early in this thread, how on earth can you call my contribution trolling?

I made ONE post which added crucial facts to the situation regarding a concert that's not sold out. Doesn't matter who's name is on the ticket. 
If a show is not selling well, promoters usually find a way to get more people in the building


seatfillers.co.uk/ - have you seen this? theatre, opera, concerts....

www.howtoconcerts.com/how-to-paper-the-house/

On the last Springsteen tour in the US, there are LOADS of stories of people buying tickets for next to nothing on the day of the show. Happened at every single show that wasn't an instant sell out. People got good floor seats for less than 10 dollars on some of the shows. And guess what? The building filled up nicely, and at least the promoter had more people inside the venue who could leave money in the bar...

These are facts. If FACTS go against a happily-ever-after Qal story of a sold out show in Japan...well, the facts are still the facts. 

would you stop it with the trolling that is your first two paragraphs?

"Sold out" / soft sellers are two different things. 

Sold out = no available seats / tickets. As you rightly pointed out, the industry being what it is these days, the classic "sold out" is not that common anymore, where every availble ticket is sold long before the show takes place. Is Taylor Swift the only one these days? U2 at the Sphere?
And while I'm sure many of Queen's gigs back in the day were classic sold out, I'm sure there were just as many where you could grab tickets at the last minute. Dunno about the fluctuating pricing though, if that ever happened back then. I'm sure someone can weigh in on that.


Now, you mention KISS, and they are a good example of how a gig that sell well (their final two Garden shows), is given that final "papering" push, to fill every seat in the buliding. Still "sold out" in the end, even though some of those tickets were sold at a bargain price, or bought by a sponsor who subsequently gave it away for free to whoever.
On the same tour, though - they had many shows that I would classify as soft sellers.  Attendance was not good, even when people could get very cheap tickets close to show day. Go to the KISSFAQ websiste; Plenty of reports talk about empty sections in the arena, even with the "artifical" push that is dirt cheap / free tickets. 

I also mentioned Springsteen above; some of his US shows backfired when he went down the "dynamic pricing" route. In the end, most gigs had people in every seat, but I read one report of a guy who got tickets right behind the pit for 6 dollars Now, the last time you could see Springsteen for 6 dollars prior to that must have been in early 1975

It is quite dire in Japan at the moment, then?  I wonder just how low they will go to fill seats?

Don’t you all realize? Clearly if any Q+AL tour isn’t a 120% sell-out then they’re abject failures and it only reinforces that Brian and Roger are has-beens who should’ve just stayed home since November 24, 1991!


What’s the point of this thread? It comes off as gloating and smug confirmation bias. There can be constructive ways to talk about ticket sales but this ain’t it. It’s been a little over five years since the film came out, so I’d say they got plenty of mileage out of it, especially considering they missed out on two years because of the pandemic. So what’s your point?

I don’t start threads gleefully saying that they’ve lost their luster. I certainly didn’t care that Face It Alone peaked at #90. I just enjoy the Miracle box set that I bought, and don’t give a shit how it performed in the charts.

You’re mistaken in thinking anyone’s offended.

Fair enough.  Why draw a line between the film and ticket sales half a decade later?  Could it be that the last big release was a fairly middling album box set?  Or maybe it's that there's no new material?  Maybe Japan is going through a recession - are ticket prices higher than last time QAL were there?  In fact, did they sell out LAST time?  

I'd argue that you haven't debated anything, you've just chucked an assumptive hand grenade in and wandered off.  You claim that the tone wasn't intended as negative, although my reading of it was that it seemed pretty snarky, so maybe you'll need to adapt your style to avoid such misunderstandings going forward

Just like georg before you, you obviously didn't bother to read my responses in this thread.  I hardly "wandered off". If my observation that this tour didn't sell out is a "hand grenade" and such an incendiary topic I'd hate to see your response to something really controversial and provocative.
 
I was opening a discussion about it because there is no debating the fact that this tour didn't sell out in Japan OR in the States and they DID last time around.

Lastly...why not?  Why does it bother you that I think there is a connection?  My apologies if I didn't create a post you think is worth participating in.  That's the beauty of scrolling.