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Post by Lord Fickle on Oct 25, 2024 17:21:01 GMT
I think the night comes down guide vocal is better than the album version. Also, mad the swine, theres an "oooo" by freddie, towards the end, that sounds like his 1990 voice Actually, I prefer the De Lane Lea demo to the album version as well.
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Post by senzo on Oct 25, 2024 17:22:51 GMT
Listening to the De Lane Lea outtakes, the banter does sound similar to that of the widely bootlegged Polar Bear. Reasonable to assume it was from these sessions and somehow escaped?
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Post by mas2ermercury on Oct 25, 2024 17:27:40 GMT
Picked up the vinyl at a record store near my college, sounds AMAZING!! Spared no time or money in picking this up the day of the release! It’s a great contender with my original US pressing of the album
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Post by fabiogminero on Oct 25, 2024 18:50:55 GMT
I'm not a huge fan of the drums on GKR. I don't know if it's my speakers but they sound too loud and way too much reverb. Everything else sounds great though. I have this but with KYA. The rest wasn’t too jarring for me. I don't hear the bass at all in the new mix of "Keep Yourself Alive", but this box set give me chills since this morning. I appreciate very much the '2024 Mix' of the De Lane Lea Demos (especially "Keep Yourself Alive" - those extra screams by Roger Taylor were buried somewhere in the original mix and I love them!), the unreleased live material and the new mixes of "Mad The Swine", "Liar" (those drums!) and "The Night Comes Down"....with a more adequate and careful listening I will appreciate this new release even more I guess.
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Post by yafff on Oct 25, 2024 19:32:13 GMT
This box set is truly a treasure! It sounds incredibly fresh, like they recorded yesterday. Amen to that. The BBC/Rainbow material being redundant for most serious fans being the only annoyance to me. What makes up for it is we have an actual remix here. I'd say that alone is worth the price of the box. Queen ll certainly will get the same treatment. I can already imagine what a better mix of that gem would sound like!
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Post by yafff on Oct 25, 2024 19:40:11 GMT
Had a giggle when Freddie said "Maybe we'll record that one for the next album, yes? Only if you say so." at the end of Hangman.. Almost an inside joke, even back then Honestly, I'm a bit underwhelmed by the song. I hadn't listened to it before. It kinda meanders like a work in progress/jam rather than a serious contender for an album. I can't think of a single song on Queen 1 I'd come to close swapping for it.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Oct 25, 2024 19:43:45 GMT
Had a giggle when Freddie said "Maybe we'll record that one for the next album, yes? Only if you say so." at the end of Hangman.. Almost an inside joke, even back then Honestly, I'm a bit underwhelmed by the song. I hadn't listened to it before. It kinda meanders like a work in progress/jam rather than a serious contender for an album. I can't think of a single song on Queen 1 I'd come to close swapping for it. Have to agree. I'd heard versions of it before, but I think it's mythical status far outweighs it's merit as a song.
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Post by airpodsmax on Oct 25, 2024 19:45:13 GMT
Have you watched the clip for the song Keep yourself alive?
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Post by airpodsmax on Oct 25, 2024 19:51:45 GMT
Honestly, I'm a bit underwhelmed by the song. I hadn't listened to it before. It kinda meanders like a work in progress/jam rather than a serious contender for an album. I can't think of a single song on Queen 1 I'd come to close swapping for it. Have to agree. I'd heard versions of it before, but I think it's mythical status far outweighed it's merit as a song. This can be said about any song. For example, face it alone. We listened to the demo version of this song, wondered how it would be released and whether it would be released at all It was released, and the way it was released exceeded expectations, or rather, left an aftertaste. It seems like you feel joy, but at the same time you feel like you've been screwed
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Post by chowder on Oct 25, 2024 19:59:16 GMT
I don't know why, but I got goosebumps from start to finish when hearing GKR 2024! There is so much aggression in the song now. And I like that it doesn't end with a fade-out now.
The session disc is a treasure from start to finish. MFK is probably my current highlight. With Freddie humming the guitar part in GKR a close second.
And speaking of MFK, the backing track with occasional vocals is amazing.
I am not too happy with the book though. Many great photos, but I'd rather had a nice essay. Still better than the NOTW box book, but the Miracle box book was better.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Oct 25, 2024 20:00:49 GMT
Have to agree. I'd heard versions of it before, but I think it's mythical status far outweighed it's merit as a song. This can be said about any song. For example, face it alone. We listened to the demo version of this song, wondered how it would be released and whether it would be released at all It was released, and the way it was released exceeded expectations, or rather, left an aftertaste. It seems like you feel joy, but at the same time you feel like you've been screwed So, what are you saying? Cos that makes about as much sense as something that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
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Post by Khashoggi on Oct 25, 2024 20:04:14 GMT
To me, the typical harmony-voices in the choruses of the newly remixed album are way too quiet. It totally misses the punch the original album had. Also, I don't like the reverb on the drums (in KYA for example). Also don't like the reverb on many of Freddie's lead vocals. I don't think reverb generally (drums or vocals) fit the feeling of the album too much.
Still I enjoyed my first listen of the remixed album. Many times, the drums sounded too "cheesy" and too unreal for me, though. I definitely like the original recording way more. It's still interesting to hear what they've done with it.
I LOVE the studio banter versions. It's things like that I love the most in such releases.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Oct 25, 2024 20:04:53 GMT
I am not too happy with the book though. Many great photos, but I'd rather had a nice essay. Still better than the NOTW box book, but the Miracle box book was better. I love the book. Of course, they could have added more stuff, but the fact that all the photos, receipts, lyrics, etc, have been preserved all this time is fascinating to me. It's like turning the clock back 50 years.
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Post by airpodsmax on Oct 25, 2024 20:16:25 GMT
This can be said about any song. For example, face it alone. We listened to the demo version of this song, wondered how it would be released and whether it would be released at all It was released, and the way it was released exceeded expectations, or rather, left an aftertaste. It seems like you feel joy, but at the same time you feel like you've been screwed So, what are you saying? Cos that makes about as much sense as something that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. well the song face It alone disappointed. expected one thing, got what we got. the only song that really gave me a thrill in 2024 is let me in your heart again with Freddie vocal
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Post by Lord Fickle on Oct 25, 2024 20:38:37 GMT
Brian May and Roger Taylor revealed a huge change last night in London while debuting an expanded and remixed edition of Queen's self-titled debut: They've digitally retouched every single drum hit from the original sessions.The group was initially tracked at London's legendary Trident Studios under the guidance of eccentric producer Roy Thomas Baker. Queen was still so unproven, however, that they were relegated to recording during studio downtime. "We were signed to the owners of the studio so that is why we got that [time]," Taylor said. "I remember there was Lou Reed and David [Bowie] producing Transformer. He'd just finished Hunky Dory and Ziggy. This was the place to be. The Beatles did 'All You Need Is Love' there. It really was the place to be – Harry Nilsson, etc. So we thought it was great – we're in Trident!" As a result, no one felt empowered to complain about the in-house drums. "I remember Roger getting angry because he was in such an unfamiliar situation," May said. "Instead of playing in a room with his kit, which he knows inside out, suddenly he is in a tiny little room with a foreign drum kit – which was tiny and transparent, as I remember." May described the drums as "plastic, all covered in tape – literally covered in all this tape. They'd taken most of the skin off the bass drum and it's got a cushion inside. He's trying to play this thing and he hates it!" They moved forward anyway, releasing Queen in July 1973. "I think you would have seen us very much immersed in it and we felt privileged to be there at all," May said, "and we were enjoying each other's company, and we were enjoying working with each other and developing new ideas." The LP rose to the U.K. Top 25 and eventually went gold in America – but May and Taylor were never completely satisfied with the result. They've now meticulously polished up Taylor's drum sound and restored the original track listing, inserting "Mad the Swine" between "Great King Rat" and "My Fairy King" as they'd once hoped to do. "It's exactly how we wanted it," May enthused. "We waited 52 years to get to this point, to make it the way it should have been in the first place. We always hated the fact that Roger wasn't playing his own kit. It didn't sound like Rodge." ultimateclassicrock.com/queen-debut-drums-remix
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Post by snakecharmer on Oct 25, 2024 20:49:27 GMT
I only got the 1 disc version for the time being , will hopefully get the box set when the price comes down it is £150 at the moment ,so it has come down a bit already . I think Queen 1 2024 sounds fantastic almost like it was recorded yesterday ! Modern Times Rock N Roll sounds so so much better in the past it has always sounded awful. I hope that they do the same to Queen 2 next.
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Post by cmi on Oct 25, 2024 20:49:28 GMT
Never heard "We have lift off!" in Liar before! It was always there but not so recognisable. Also it could be found on the BBC version of the song from the Session 1 (February 1973) in a more prominent volume.
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Post by finnieboy on Oct 25, 2024 21:02:08 GMT
For all these years Jesus was one of the mythical live performances very few had ever heard and now we have it, 54 years later. I’m gobsmacked at this treasure, it sounds great hearing the band so embryonic and if there is more of this gig then get it released please!
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Post by lyricweaver on Oct 25, 2024 21:06:02 GMT
Never heard "We have lift off!" in Liar before! It was always there but not so recognisable. Also it could be found on the BBC version of the song from the Session 1 (February 1973) in a more prominent volume. Yep, was gonna say the same; I only ever noticed it fading out in the back of the BBC version.
I was going to wait to comment here until I listened to everything but, oh man. I got to the beginning of "Great King Rat" on the new 2024 mixes and I just couldn't stop smiling! Like hearing it all again for the first time. What a ride this has already been. Going to try my best to listen to everything in order, rather than skipping around. Though I admit, I listened to a few on Disc 3, and that banter with Freddie saying a cutesy 'okie dokie' only to ugggggh and swear moments later is just delightful. The kind of stuff I can't wait to eat up.
Also...hey, "Great King Rat" just ends! I actually like that. And "My Fairy King", wow. I'm literally sitting here listening and just...my head is spinning in awe. So many elements I never noticed before. Gorgeous.
EDIT: Okay, now on "Liar" and as much as I love the drums, the jarring stop of the claps takes me a moment to adjust. The crash in with the guitars feels a bit less impactful because the drums are already so loud. But. Can't deny I love those loud and bombastic drums. Go Rog.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Oct 25, 2024 21:26:52 GMT
I only got the 1 disc version for the time being , will hopefully get the box set when the price comes down it is £150 at the moment ,so it has come down a bit already . I think Queen 1 2024 sounds fantastic almost like it was recorded yesterday ! Modern Times Rock N Roll sounds so so much better in the past it has always sounded awful. I hope that they do the same to Queen 2 next. It's a shame you couldn't stretch to the 2CD edition, as the sessions disc is a real treasure.
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Post by macduff77 on Oct 25, 2024 21:34:49 GMT
Wow, the new album cuts of Mad The Swine and Jesus are such a revelation. Absolutely amazing.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Oct 25, 2024 21:38:20 GMT
Have to agree. I'd heard versions of it before, but I think it's mythical status far outweighed it's merit as a song. This can be said about any song. For example, face it alone. We listened to the demo version of this song, wondered how it would be released and whether it would be released at all It was released, and the way it was released exceeded expectations, or rather, left an aftertaste. It seems like you feel joy, but at the same time you feel like you've been screwed no it can't be said for any song. it can only be said for a song that has attained the mythical status that Hangman did. I've no idea how long you've been around Queen discussions online, but Hangman has been talked about, rumoured, debated, obsessed over and speculated about for as longs as Queen discussion groups have existed. Hangman (in Queen circles) has been a Lost City of Atlantis housing the Ark of the Covenant for the best part of 30yrs. Face It Alone, has, by comparison, been a mild curio. One blessed relief about the whole Hangman saga, is that the arrival of a decent-sounding recording will finally kill all the inane speculation. we now know that - even at its best-sounding - it was a very ordinary song. don't get me wrong, it's really nice to hear it, but (even if some form of studio W-I-P does exist in the archives, it no longer matters, it'll never sound any better than the version we now have...unremarkable.
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Post by cigar on Oct 25, 2024 22:27:53 GMT
I said this in the announcement but the remix is absolutely incredible. The live tracks are another fantastic addition. The 1970 performance of Jesus was mind blowing to say the least. Desperately hoping QPL actually releases the full recording, because it's insanely good quality for 1970.
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Post by lefthandedguitarist on Oct 25, 2024 22:34:38 GMT
I think it's "Bi... Queen Bitch." 😄 I thought it's "Freddie's silly little rules all over the place". These both make more sense! Damn these stupid ears... when are they gonna do closed captioning for music?! Not to disparage your hearing further, but Roger says, "not so you'd notice!"
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Post by cobohall on Oct 25, 2024 23:02:06 GMT
Seeing that picture of John with the Rickenbacker bass recently and hearing that bass riff(solo) on the remix of Liar, I'm just wondering if he played the Rick on Liar. Sounds closer to a Rick than a Fender. It has the metallic sound to it. Anyone know about what bass he used?
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Post by lumi on Oct 25, 2024 23:31:37 GMT
The De Lane Lea demos are fabulous! Who'd have thought we'd ever hear them in this quality? Love the DLL demos, for both the music and the banter! That little jam in the middle of DLL Jesus is amazing. And I will never not enjoy any new "Freddie singing random shit as placeholder lyrics" content we get.
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Post by Ryan Newton on Oct 25, 2024 23:35:51 GMT
Here's my verdict:
Obviously all the new live tracks and sessions stuff is great for those interested in the rarities. Equally shocked that the San Diego and Imperial College recordings are mostly raw, apart from a bit of stereo editing done for the San Diego Recording, which sounds strange but isn't a deal breaker. At least they seemed to reel in the autotune for these tracks.
The 2024 mix is (mostly) terrible. Queen 1 never had a good mix to begin with, but the excessive, unnecessary autotune sticks out like a sore thumb to anyone who has heard this album before. The drums also sound super fake and over compressed. The balance is all off here, and some tracks are bordering on unlistenable, like Doing All Right and Liar, where the drums don't even have a consistent sound quality. The only track on here that sounds better to my ears is Son and Daughter, which benefits from the "crank the drums to 11" effect only because of the nature of the song.
If they ever do this for Queen II, it will immediately be made irrelevant due to the C_matt mix that's out there, which I think is the definitive mix for the album, and Queen 1 would have been better off with that sort of treatment.
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Post by cobohall on Oct 26, 2024 0:09:29 GMT
Doing All Right - Trident take 1 with guide vocal. Wow! Right now I feel this is the best thing I've heard in these extras. So real.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Oct 26, 2024 0:13:40 GMT
Queen’s 1973 Debut Gets a Glorious Sonic Upgrade That Transforms It From Black-and-White to Living ColorQueen’s 1973 eponymous debut album has always been an outlier in the group’s catalog. Yes, it’s a vivid opening statement that set the stage for the glorious creativity and bombast — the heavenly voices, snarling guitars and baroque flourishes — that would peak with “Bohemian Rhapsody” and “A Night at the Opera” just over two years later. But the album suffered from a muddy mix that made it feel stiff and unfocused, a situation probably not helped by the fact that most of it was recorded on borrowed equipment in the middle of the night, when the studio owned by the unsigned band’s managers was available for free. Queen were a complex and ambitious band, so it’s not surprising that the relatively inexperienced outfit’s debut album would be imperfect. But at times that complexity and ambition came out jumbled, and some of Freddie Mercury’s lyrics were so loaded with Biblical imagery that the group could have been mistaken for an early Christian rock outfit. Still, that first album includes the group’s fiery first hit, “Keep Yourself Alive,” as well as towering rockers like “Liar,” “Son and Daughter” and “Great King Rat” — and also a song immortalized in the “Bohemian Rhapsody” biopic, the lilting “Doing All Right,” which was first recorded by guitarist Brian May and drummer Roger Taylor’s previous band, Smile. A half century later, “Queen I,” the lavish six-CD 50th anniversary-ish deluxe re-release of the album, shows just how much of the underwhelm was caused by that muddy mix. The bandmembers have said for decades that they were unhappy with the album’s sound, and here it has been given such a dramatic sonic overhaul that, to use an overplayed but accurate analogy, hearing it is like seeing “The Wizard of Oz” shift from black-and-white to color. Read more:- variety.com/2024/music/reviews/queen-1-1973-debut-deluxe-edition-album-review-1236190338/
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Post by saintjiub on Oct 26, 2024 0:23:35 GMT
Evidently Amazon.com has withdrawn offering the mp3 version of the box set, and can only give me a refund.
Has anyone else in the US had an issue with the Amazon mp3 version of the Queen I (Collector's Edition)?
May be I will buy the imported 2CD version, but that is over $30 and seems like an overpriced rip off to me. Evidently Hollywood Records does not offer the 2CD version.
Never mind me, the last few days have been crap. Hopefully this depression cloud will lift soon ... I have the weekend to recover ...
... edit ...
on the umpteenth try 22 hours later ... I hit the download button ... and it worked. I am an Einstein, doing the same thing over and over ... but getting a different results. I am bewildered ...
I am now listening to the CD I just burned ... to the sessions disc ... and it sounds great.
I wonder if my $10 refund will go through ... LOL
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